Conclave Tues March 12th

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Maxirad said:
If Michael Voris had his way, he would pick Cardinal Raymond Burke to be Pope. If you don’t believe me, check out the “Why Not Burke?” episode of The Vortex. (I won’t post a link to it here on CAF because it doesn’t seem to be appropriate.)
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Why would anyone NOT think that is what Voris would want?

Voris. . . . . . . .
 
Marie5890 said:
The reason March 12th was picked, according to Lombari (press secretary?) of the Vatican, was a practical reason, he said. Because they still needed more time to get the Sistine Chapel and the Casa Santa Marta ready.

(the temporary overhaul of the Chapel is substancial)
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Chances are the main reason is a practical reason, but I would like to think that it’s not just a coincidence. 😉 It could have been the 13th.
 
Maxirad said:
If Michael Voris had his way, he would pick Cardinal Raymond Burke to be Pope. If you don’t believe me, check out the “Why Not Burke?” episode of The Vortex. (I won’t post a link to it here on CAF because it doesn’t seem to be appropriate.)
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I keep going back to Cardinal Burke myself.
 
ringil said:
Is it enough that a candidate promotes traditional devotions?
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Granted, I don’t know a lot about Cardinal Burke, but he is more than traditional devotions.

Edit: Just listened to “Why not Burke?” It explains a number of reasons why he would be a good choice. Makes me feel even more strongly about him.

And to anyone who knows, why is Michael Voris an issue? I have never heard of him before.
 
(I just read Raymond Arroyo’s daily blog entry. I will just cut and paste what he said. Take it for what it’s worth, his observations only)

“In all of my conversations here, it is striking that no leading candidate has emerged. In 2005, though many in the media missed it, some of us knew that Cardinal Ratzinger was the man to beat. This time the field seems wide open and confusion reigns. Aside from Cardinals Ouellet, Scola, and O’Malley, few names rise in conversations. But I refuse to engage in needless speculation. Soon we will all know the Cardinals decision. The Congregation of Cardinals voted this afternoon to set the date for the Conclave. It will begin on Tuesday, March 12th. I will be covering the Procession of the Cardinals into the Sistine Chapel on that first afternoon and I hope you will join us.”
 
Lucky7 said:
And to anyone who knows, why is Michael Voris an issue? I have never heard of him before.
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Voris is popular among certain groups around here.

Check out youtube “the Vortex” you’re in for a “treat”. :rolleyes:

Back to the discussion.
 
ctvnews.ca/world/pope/lisa-laflamme-s-vatican-notebook-setting-up-for-smoke-signals-1.1189065
At today’s Vatican press conference we learned that after the first day, they plan to burn the ballots twice a day: after the second ballot at noon local time and results of subsequent votes at 7 p.m.
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However, that first day, Tuesday, there are plans to burn the ballots only once, as voting starts late in the afternoon. But if two-thirds of the cardinals are in agreement on a successor for Benedict in the first ballot, we could possibly see white smoke rising as early as Tuesday evening.
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We also learned:
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  • The Cardinals will move into their “conclave” rooms at Casa Santa Marta on Tuesday morning at 7 a.m.
  • Their rooms were assigned by lots this morning.
  • The conclave will begin Tuesday at 4:45 pm local time with a swearing-in.
  • Electronic jamming devices have been installed so no information leaks out during the Conclave.
  • Cardinals will return to Santa Marta at 7:30 each night.
  • Every day the 115 elector cardinals will silently be transferred to the Sistine Chapel for 9:30 a.m. They will go back for lunch at 12:30 before the afternoon round of voting.
  • The average conclave over history has lasted 3 days, and the the longest was 2 years, 9 months and 2 days – but that was back in the Middle Ages.
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Oddschecker.com compiled the odds for selecting the next pope from 13 major bookmakers. Collective odds data was converted into probabilities and averaged out among the various Cardinals. As of last Sunday, Angelo Scola led with an average 23% chance, followed by Peter Turkson at 22%, Tarcisio Bertone at 16%, Marc Oullet at 12%, then Angelo Bagnasco at 10%. I’m amazed at the ability of oddsmakers to quantify the odds for selecting St. Peter’s successor. Let’s hope the Holy Spirit guides the Cardinals in conclave, not the betting public. :bible1:
 
However, that first day, Tuesday, there are plans to burn the ballots only once, as voting starts late in the afternoon.
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:rolleyes: That’s because there is a MAXIMUM of one vote on the first day. In the 2005 conclave, they did vote on day one. In both 1978 conclaves, they didn’t. Anybody’s guess really.

And I’ll apply that to who will actually be elected as well. The news tonight had the Brazilian cardinal mentioned as a frontrunner because of his support from the Curia. Oddsmakers are favoring Turkson, but his star really seems to have faded since the vacancy was announced. O’Mally is 68. Scola is 71. Thats a good Even Ouelette is 68. Thats a good half decade older than some of the other candidates.

We will have to see what happens, but I wou.ld be surprised if we got a Pope earlier than day 4
 
Just wondering if anyone knows of a Cardinal who said “no thank you” to their name being chosen. Has that ever happened before? :confused:
 
newdenise2002 said:
Just wondering if anyone knows of a Cardinal who said “no thank you” to their name being chosen. Has that ever happened before? :confused:
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I don’t think we would ever know if that happened. The cardinals (and anyone else involved -bus drivers, etc.) take a vow of silence about hwat happens in the conclave. The Pope himself can talk a bit about what lead up to his election (ie, the very brief comments that Benedict gave to some German pilgrims right after his election.) but nothing else.
 
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