Remember, I’m a modernist heretic. “Adam” and “Eve” are symbolic terms for the whole of humanity as they emerge into moral awareness. The “forbidden fruit” is symbolic of our “rebellion” against God, or putting ourselves before God. The serpent is symbolic of temptation, of allowing us to imagine ourselves as greater than God.
So I guess you must be proposing that angels have mind, consciousness, morality, and spiritual awareness only when they have bodies? And that they always have bodies? Or that they don’t have these characteristics when in an unembodied state?
Being agnostic on a matter such as whether angels have mind, consciousness, morality, and spiritual awareness - depending on your own senses alone, seems to be very anti-Catholic. Doubting Thomas for example. Blessed are they who have not seen and believe.
You can still worry about sin .
the few minor ones. 
especially my cranky ones. 
I might have missed it in a previous post, but… all of humanity (assuming there were a bunch and not just 2) could not have simultaneously “evolved” by random processes into moral awareness. That leaves us with the possibility / probability that some beings around today that we call human are not actually endowed with this feature. This part of the image of God would be missing from some group of “people” because they evolved along the path that didn’t include this feature.
I’ve noticed that you are frequently amazed. So am I – life is amazing!
I’m pushing nothing.
Oh yeah. :sad_yes:
Hmmm
Now how do we know exactly who is and who isn’t?. So I would be within my rights to be racist based on this, that all men are not created equal. That I can be prejudiced because some are just evolved animals and not made in the image of God. What if I am one of “those”?. So Hitler could be right?Why leave out the major ones?You can still worry about sin .
Evolution promotes self propagation and morality that increases the chances of that can easily be seen as evolutionary pressures.
So, once again, a human being is described as an ambulatory bag of chemicals programmed by its genes. It is designed to perform adaptive behaviors and can involve itself in maladaptive behaviors. Right or wrong exists only relative to the survival of the individual. Tribal bonds exist for the same purpose.
On the contrary, you certainly are. Cute turns of phrase among them.
You included the word ‘only’, I certainly did not, and I would not. I would prefer that you not put words in my mouth.
Chance plays a very important role. Do you understand how meiosis works?
No, Ed – pushing is different. I’m offering my theological interpretation. It would be pushing if I demanded that my students adopt my perspective and if I then failed them when they refused. I merely require them to demonstrate a capacity for reasoned argument in support of their theological interpretations.
Yes, Ricmat. What is the difficulty with all of humanity evolving together into moral awareness? Remember, we’re not talking about a huge population spread out all over the globe at this point. Homo sapiens probably emerged into rationality collectively, while gathered in one region of Africa, before the species began its global diaspora. As they migrated out of Africa they were all fully human, carrying with them rationality, language, dawning moral and spiritual awareness, artistic sensitivity, and other marks of modern humans. They may have encountered other species of hominids who had not evolved to this stave, and who ultimately did not survive. Modern genetic studies show how closely humans are related to each other in the most crucial respects. At this point I will defer to any professional anthropologists on the forum.
You responded with a diversion (below).
But even then, you never admitted that angels have these qualities in a non-material being. But they do, of course.
I think my post directly above yours is clear. Evolution doesn’t work simultaneously and identically on multiple individuals.
I sure do. But science is not the only source of real knowledge. The evolution written about here is random and meaningless. This is nihilism, which I and the Church reject.
If you are a Catholic teaching in a Catholic institution then your interpretation is meaningless. If you believe God cannot perform miracles then say so. Check your Catechism as to what it says about Adam and Eve. Honesty has nothing to do with it. Church teaching has everything to do with it.