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Pup7
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Dude I’m in.
I’m out of likes or you’d get one.
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Edward_H
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So you’re the judge now. You’ve judged those people who go to Confession at a wedding as “wanting to safe face”.
You’ve concluded; you’ve written them off.
Got it.
You’ve concluded; you’ve written them off.
Got it.
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Xanthippe_Voorhees
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No, you are still ignoring the fact that confession is neither rare nor unable to be requested easily. All having it before a wedding ceremony would do is give it the same issues that communion now has. It turns confessions into the same lack of adult responsibility and actual care for fellow man.So you’re the judge now. You’ve judged those people who go to Confession at a wedding as “wanting to safe face”.
You’ve concluded; you’ve written them off.
Got it.
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Edward_H
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A silly argument.
Confession is an act of reconciliation and beginning again. No better place.
Period.
Confession is an act of reconciliation and beginning again. No better place.
Period.
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Xanthippe_Voorhees
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Strong arming and guilt tripping people into sacraments is inappropriate.A silly argument.
Confession is an act of reconciliation and beginning again. No better place.
Period.
Period.
You do not demand people receive one sacrament and hold another as some sort of prize. The OP is not talking about a casual announcement that confession is available but a bully statement of how one should conduct themselves…and a false idea that confession gives anyone the right to go to communion.
It’s a disgusting act of me-ism and responsiblity shuffling.
Weddings are guest list only. It’s a couples job to inform guests in the most personal way possible. Not some blanket guilt trip.
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Phemie
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My parish has Confession from 1-2 p.m. Saturday. But I’ve asked to go to confession just before Mass before (well, maybe 15 minutes before Mass) and the priest has been very accommodating.
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Edward_H
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No one is strong arming anyone.
The distortion and gross exaggeration in your post is just ridiculous.
The distortion and gross exaggeration in your post is just ridiculous.
Tis_Bearself
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I guess I’m just not very holy, because as a bride, the absolute last thing on my mind was whether Joe and Jane Wedding-guest had been to Confession frequently enough to receive Communion at my wedding. I’m not even sure if I myself had been to Confession frequently enough that year. So it’s one more thing I’ll just have to throw myself on Jesus’ mercy for.
I knew that my Protestant relatives were well aware that they weren’t supposed to traipse up to the Communion rail because one of them was an ex-Catholic and they had other Catholic relatives and neighbors. That was about the extent of my even thinking about it.
How about you just put a priest at the entrance and everybody who comes into the church has to confess on the way in or else admit that they aren’t a Catholic, in which case they get a big black X on their hands like the underage kids at all-ages rock shows to show that they can’t receive?
Of course, the folks who confessed might sit through the whole Mass having lustful thoughts about their neighbor’s spouse and be out of a state of grace by communion time anyway, but hey, at least you tried.
I knew that my Protestant relatives were well aware that they weren’t supposed to traipse up to the Communion rail because one of them was an ex-Catholic and they had other Catholic relatives and neighbors. That was about the extent of my even thinking about it.
How about you just put a priest at the entrance and everybody who comes into the church has to confess on the way in or else admit that they aren’t a Catholic, in which case they get a big black X on their hands like the underage kids at all-ages rock shows to show that they can’t receive?
Of course, the folks who confessed might sit through the whole Mass having lustful thoughts about their neighbor’s spouse and be out of a state of grace by communion time anyway, but hey, at least you tried.
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Canvas
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I was married in the Catholic Church myself. I will tell you that it is logistically not very easy with everything going on to find a half hour to an hour for the Priest to hear Confessions. Most weddings happen on a Saturday. Often there is more than one wedding in a day.
It is up to the Catholics at wedding Mass, just like any other Mass, to see to it that they go to Confession when needed.
It is up to the Catholics at wedding Mass, just like any other Mass, to see to it that they go to Confession when needed.
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Maximilian75
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Having a Holy Hour w/ Confession, and then the Rehearsal, and then the Rehearsal Dinner in the Parish Hall is what my parish asks for/recommends for marriage prep.
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Augustinian
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I think that’s probably true with most Protestants or Greek Orthodox. But guests who are Hindu, Jewish or of other religions might think otherwise- thinking it might be considered “impolite” not to.I knew that my Protestant relatives were well aware that they weren’t supposed to traipse up to the Communion rail
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Maximilian75
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My parish has found multiple Hosts discarded after wedding Masses, presumably by guests who just… didn’t want to, I guess…
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Pup7
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No, I think this…So you’re the judge now. You’ve judged those people who go to Confession at a wedding as “wanting to safe face”.
You’ve concluded; you’ve written them off.
Got it.
…would pretty much judge folks before they even walked up the church steps.“Prior to the wedding ceremony there will be a time for confession, please make use of this if are Catholic and you haven’t been to mass in a while.”
Tis_Bearself
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We had a Jewish couple and a Muslim couple at our wedding. I don’t recall either of them coming up.
But I agree that if you have some reason to think that people, including Protestants, might come up for Communion out of not knowing better, a note in the program would be a good thing to have.
But I agree that if you have some reason to think that people, including Protestants, might come up for Communion out of not knowing better, a note in the program would be a good thing to have.
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Edward_H
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Here’s the problem with what you wrote.
We should be more concerned about the state of our soul, the REALITY of the unity we currently have with God, than with what others think of us…or even WHAT WE THINK about such a sign written by others.
We need to learn to be “less easily offended”, and more concerned with how we’ve offended God, and perhaps others in the pew, perhaps right next to us on our arm!
There’s a group of Catholics that have gotten way too practiced at being offended, and in being pushed around by their own pride, or by their vanity, worried what others might think…or mad at what others may have written on the back sheet of a wedding program.
We’re far too easily offended.
Snowflakes is far too kind a word for us, as it connotes purity, design, beauty.
We’re tarred (touchy) and irregular pieces of road gravel that Our Lord wants to refine into something useful for His will. And He likes to begin this recurring work with us using His Sacraments.
We should be more concerned about the state of our soul, the REALITY of the unity we currently have with God, than with what others think of us…or even WHAT WE THINK about such a sign written by others.
We need to learn to be “less easily offended”, and more concerned with how we’ve offended God, and perhaps others in the pew, perhaps right next to us on our arm!
There’s a group of Catholics that have gotten way too practiced at being offended, and in being pushed around by their own pride, or by their vanity, worried what others might think…or mad at what others may have written on the back sheet of a wedding program.
We’re far too easily offended.
Snowflakes is far too kind a word for us, as it connotes purity, design, beauty.
We’re tarred (touchy) and irregular pieces of road gravel that Our Lord wants to refine into something useful for His will. And He likes to begin this recurring work with us using His Sacraments.
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TheLittleLady
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First Mass I ever attended was a wedding. I worked with the groom and those of us from work also socialized, so, there was a cadre that included his bride-to-be.
Over the course of time running up to the wedding, in casual conversation, they made sure we non-Catholics knew what to expect and about Communion, etc.
Honestly, I have not attended a wedding where I don’t know the couple (take that back, I was once asked to witness a con-validation where they had no guests). Can’t the couple simply tell their non-Catholic friends/family about Mass and Communion in a casual way over the months leading up to the wedding?
Over the course of time running up to the wedding, in casual conversation, they made sure we non-Catholics knew what to expect and about Communion, etc.
Honestly, I have not attended a wedding where I don’t know the couple (take that back, I was once asked to witness a con-validation where they had no guests). Can’t the couple simply tell their non-Catholic friends/family about Mass and Communion in a casual way over the months leading up to the wedding?
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Pup7
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I’m not easily offended, actually. Never have been.
I just understand the definitions of “rude” and “etiquette”, and in my book this violates both.
It has nothing to do with vanity or what anyone else thinks (I’ve never really cared much for what others think - folks need to mind their own business far more than they do, and if they’re in mine, then I’m not the one with the bankrupt life). It has to do with staying in one’s lane and avoiding mission creep.
Telling someone to be sure they go to confession if they need to before they come to my wedding is mission creep and well out of my lane.
I just understand the definitions of “rude” and “etiquette”, and in my book this violates both.
It has nothing to do with vanity or what anyone else thinks (I’ve never really cared much for what others think - folks need to mind their own business far more than they do, and if they’re in mine, then I’m not the one with the bankrupt life). It has to do with staying in one’s lane and avoiding mission creep.
Telling someone to be sure they go to confession if they need to before they come to my wedding is mission creep and well out of my lane.
This is why he sent us both the sacraments and priests. Not weddings where the couple feels the need to administer admonishment and reminders to behave. Not their call.We’re tarred (touchy) and irregular pieces of road gravel that Our Lord wants to refine into something useful for His will. And He likes to begin this recurring work with us using His Sacraments.
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Edward_H
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The wedding is done - within the Mass - the wedding is actually less important than the Mass.
The unity hoped and prayed for by the couple is provided the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
The unity hoped and prayed for by the couple is provided the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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Pup7
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Yep. And it’s about their unity. Not their call on everyone else’s.The unity hoped and prayed for by the couple is provided the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
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DeniseNY
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And that’s where I think a mention from the Pastor prior to Communion is appropriate.
But for the bride and groom to worry about who has and hasn’t been to communion “in a while” and to put it in their invite, is not what I would call appropriate. It’s none of their concern regarding who hasn’t been in a while. And I also think it’s a bit naive to think that a statement like that is going to suddenly make their Catholic guests decide they have to go to confession. They can go at any of the scheduled times at their (or any other parish) or make an appointment.
But for the bride and groom to worry about who has and hasn’t been to communion “in a while” and to put it in their invite, is not what I would call appropriate. It’s none of their concern regarding who hasn’t been in a while. And I also think it’s a bit naive to think that a statement like that is going to suddenly make their Catholic guests decide they have to go to confession. They can go at any of the scheduled times at their (or any other parish) or make an appointment.
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