I believe God can bring good out of anything. I believe there is always hope for conversion and change. After all, how would any of us be able to achieve salvation otherwise? We are all miserable sinners, and we have all fallen short of the mark-yet, God has brought us to the Church, to the sacraments so that we will have hope of salvation. Who are we to deny that to anyone else, no matter how much we disagree with the place they are in now?
I do not think Romney is the most conservative ever, but he has conservative views on big issues, like marriage, religious conscience, and most of his economic views are conservativeExactly, so there’s still no conservative there.
I think that’s right. The President essentially betrayed the Cardinal over the HHS mandate. Rather than worrying about losing the Catholic vote, he’s appealing to his special interest lobbies, especially Planned Parenthood, NOW, and others.
Exactly. Very scandalous and dangerous indeed. And Cardinal Dolan is playing right into Mr. Obamas hands.
Correction, then… now we need 2 conservatives to balance it out.
Yes, and that is the danger here, that uninformed Catholics will see the pre-eminent Prelate of the Catholic Church in the United States having a nice dinner filled with jokes and laughter and think that the Church is alright with President Obama’s policies and agenda. It sends a mixed message to the faithful. That’s a huge problem in our Church for the last few decades, the mixed messages and inconsistent teaching, and Cardinal Dolan has an opportunity to send a HUGE message to Catholics that President Obama is not ok, and also to non-Catholics/Catholic politicians, that the Church no longer will allow itself to be used as a political pawn to pick up votes. It is incredibly scandalous of Cardinal Dolan.
No, it’s understood that it is just an old-fashioned political dinner where enemies leave their swords and shields by the door to shmooze and enjoy themselves. It is NOT a place where either the President or the Cardinal is going to make a speech that either man or the audience is going to find uncomfortable… It’s tradition!
Exactly the problem, we shouldn’t shmooze and enjoy ourselves with someone that has disrespected and disregarded our deeply held beliefs, has betrayed and lied to us, and has made no attempt to show his disdain for our Catholic faith, indeed Christianity itself, at every turn. This just adds to the scandalization of the faithful, it doesn’t diminish it at all. It is an opportunity for Obama to pretend that everything is okay.No, it’s understood that it is just an old-fashioned political dinner where enemies leave their swords and shields by the door to shmooze and enjoy themselves. It is NOT a place where either the President or the Cardinal is going to make a speech that either man or the audience is going to find uncomfortable… It’s tradition!
I, for one, will not call or consider His Eminence a naive fool, and I expect that he knows more about what he is doing than any poster on this Forum does. You can, however, contact the Cardinal at his Chancery Offices at 1011 First Ave, New York, NY 10022 @ 212-371-1000 to complain to him if you like.
I have made my opinion known, already. And I signed the petition to disinvite Obama. I thank you for the information though.
Yeah, among ourselves, but it’s chutzpah to presume that you might know better than a Cardinal does about his job and how to do it. I’m sure that he knows what Pres. Obama is all about.
We will respectfully agree to disagree on this topic, I have no interest in debating. I have made my feelings known, and you have yours. We’re not going to convince each other otherwise, so…that’s about it.
Except that the dinner is going to be, as always, raucous and loud, you may be right.
As well as an Obama commercial in which he’s pictured with Cardinal Dolan – to the confusion of the faithful, which is exactly Obama’s purpose.
Exactly.
