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Cranch
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Thanks for digging that out!
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Anima_Christi
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I just ordered the Confraternity Bible from Sing Tala publishers. To those of you who have it, what does the cover look like and how does it look on the inside (print, additional features, etc.)? Is it very good quality? How long does it usually take it to arrive by mail when ordering from Sing Tala?
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chotock
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I just bought one on eBay for $4 I wish my full Douay version was as inexpensive.
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demerzel85
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Sleeve, Dust jack and Hardcover with the same murals. 2 Ribbon Markers. Rounded Page Edges. Spiritus Paraclitus Encyclical in the Front. Preface (author not recorded). Verses in 2 columns. Maps at the back.
And I think that’s about it. I bought it from the Opus Dei centre nearby.
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Fidelis
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I bought an entire CFE at a used bookstore that looks like it was a school text-book at one time. I use it for cross-reference in preparing Bible studies. The more I use it, the more I like it.
I wish it were more widely used. It sure beats the NAB, I’m afraid.
I wish it were more widely used. It sure beats the NAB, I’m afraid.
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Winger
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Has anyone ordered from this company before? They have some great titles. I placed an order and it is sent through e-mail and then I will send a check. I just wanted to know if it is Ok?
Thanks for any replies!
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tobinatorstark
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I have seen a copy but not have read it. I think it would be just as good as Douay-Rheims
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Dragoro
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I just bought a beautifull leather bound duey OT/confranternity NT for 20 bucks from a used book store. It definitely big but nothing I don’t mind.
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Dragoro
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Well I picked it up today!! Wow is it beautifull. Printed in 1950, by the Catholic Press, it has the Encyclical letters from Popes Leo XII, Benedict XV, and Pius XII. The papal documents 1893 - 1920, and. 1920 - 1943. A catholic dictionary. And a ton of colored illustrations of different stories of the bible.
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RedSoxFan
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To anyone who might look for a decent copy, I bought a bunch from a protestant used book store. Nice memorial bibles for some old catholic union boys who died along the way. They couldn’t sell them in that place so I got them for a few bucks each. Also found a family sized one from the early sixties in the city at a used book store. It’s always worth a shot to see what’s out there besides amazon. 
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tobinatorstark
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I have only seen the Confraternity Bible a handful of times. My Christ Renews His Parish Group meets at 2 different places and one of those place has this Bible and was presented to the church in 1953. I have read very little out of it as it is old and falling apart. We use the NAB for the most part for our study, I still prefer the Douay-Rheims and if I could spend time on the Confraternity Bible at that church I would surely like that too. NAB just got too lackluster as all other Catholic translations
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Esdras
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I just bought a copy of the Saint Joseph New Catholic Edition New Edition - copyright 1962, up here in Regina, SK, Canada at our local Value Village for $3.99 CAN (all hardcovers are 3.99.) Finally something to replace that crummy Catholic Edition Of Good News Bible. All I need to do is find a copy of the Catholic Edition of the RSV and I will have the two versions of the Bible I love. In the meantime I am very happy to finally have a decent bible after so many years without.
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Mattjolley
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Can anyone upload some pictures of this sinagtala version of the confraternity bible? I wouldnt mind seeing what its like before I take the plunge. Page samples, what the covers’s like,etc. The website just has a box with a red ‘X’ in it for their only picture!
Ive heard so much good about this bible, so it’d be a nice addition to my library of bibles
Matt
Ive heard so much good about this bible, so it’d be a nice addition to my library of bibles
Matt
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Winger
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I will try and upload a picture later on this evening and give a description and measurements so you can see.
In Christ and St. Benedict,
Winger Obl.S.B.
In Christ and St. Benedict,
Winger Obl.S.B.
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Mattjolley
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Many thanks! At least I can have a peek before splashing the cash!
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SFH
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The Confraternity Edition is a half-completed work. The translators started updating the New Testament from the Vulgate, and were part way through the Old Testament when DAS came out. They scrapped the revision of the Old Testament, and started fresh from the original languages. Eventually, the Old Testament books were moved into the NAB that we use today (except for Genesis and Psalms). Incidentally, the original translation of Genesis is about 1000 times better than the current one (IMHO).
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Jerry_Parker
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I use only a small number of Bible versions regularly, although I possess many. The Confraternity Version is one of those which I most cherish and regard as authoritative (along with, among others, the Douay-Rheims-Challoner version). I have noticed a number of things in earlier replies that seem to be somewhat uninformed. Here are some rather lengthy comments about this great Bible version, especially considering the matter of degree of completeness in published editions of it.
The Confraternity Version (C.V.) of Bible took many years to complete. The New Testament thereof came into print long before much of the Old Testament appeared, the latter bit by bit in separate volumes, with single volume editions of the full Bible (including, of course, the deuterocanonical books, which Protestants term Apocrypha) in the intervening period rounding out the Old Testament (O.T.) with the balance in the Douay-Challoner Version for those books of the O.T. which the Confraternity Version project had not yet finalised. As the 1950s rolled by into the mid-1960s, increasingly more of a Confraternity-Douay Bible included the books of the O.T. in the on-going Confraternity Version translation.
The most satisfactory solution, for consulting the Confraternity Version Bible in its fulness, is to use the complete Confraternity O.T. that only appeared separately (in multi-volume and, even more difficult to find, single-volume editions) along with a separately published Confraternity Version N.T.
The Confraternity Version, indeed, was completed when the full O.T. text of the C.V. at last appeared, a fact of which many Roman Catholics and other Christians are not aware. Alas, far inferior New American Bible (N.A.B.) appeared (rather confusingly, also under the auspices of the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine) with the complete texts of both the N.A.B.'s O.T. and of its N.T. in editions that had them together in a single volume rather quickly upon the heels of completion of the C.V., unjustly causing the N.A.B. to displace the C…V. from favour, which resulted in the withdrawal of edtions of the C.V. from the market. Very few (if any) editions (multi-volume or otherwise) of the C.V. with the full O.T. appeared because of this.
Even after the C.V. Old Testament had been completed and, at last, was available in a single volume for the O…T., publishers continued to market single-volume C.V. Bibles comprising both the New and the Old Testaments only in editions that continued to mingle its O.T. with books from the Douay Version; perhaps this was to sell off stocks of Confraternity-Douay Bibles before finally issuing Bible editions including the entire O.T. and N.T. Confraternity texts, something that, regrettably, seems never to have happened.
The best that the buyer can do who wishes to have the great Confraternity Version Bible in a single volume, whether to obtain through the Amazon WWW sites or even otherwise (as of late 2008), is to obtain a mixed edition of the Confraternity Bible that includes its N.T. and as much of the Confraternity O.T. as he can find, with the balance of the O.T. in the Douay-Challoner Version. The better and more comprehensive option with the fewest number of volumes to buy and to use, is to obtain the Confraternity complete O.T. separately, of which Amazon.com has listed two editions, as accessed Nov. 2008, on the Amazon.com WWW site, along with a Confraternity N.T. in another single volume, which thus provides all of the Confraternity Version.
The Knox Bible (a 20th century translation, of high literary quality in its English style, by Ronald Knox, based on the Latin Vulgate with resort also to the Hebrew and Greek texts of, respectively, the O.T. and N.T.) remained in print, but it, also, began to in lose popularity; at any rate, Knox’s translation was too often too paraphrastic to be any kind of rival either to the preceding Douay-Rheims-Challoner Version (from Latin) or to the C.V. (from Hebrew and Greek). There consequently is a crying need all the more for a new printing or new edition of the full C.V., with its entire O.T. included.
There are some inconvenient aspects of the Confraternity and Knox versions for users unfamiliar with them and with earlier Roman Catholic (R.C.) translations, e.g. the numbering of the Psalms (being that of the Latin Vulgate and Greek Septuagint), the use of Latinised forms of names rather than the forms that are more familiar most Protestant Bibles, and now in subsequent R.C. ones, too (e.g. Noe rather than Noah), the Latinised titles used for Old Testament books which in some cases differ significantly from what one is accustomed to encounter both in Protestant and in subsequent R.C. translations, but, due to its overall excellence, one bears gladly with these traits of the C.V.
While the use of a form of the so-called Greek “Critical Text”, inferior to the faithful variants of the Textus Receptus (T.R.) characterises even the C.V.'s New Testament (N.T.), the C.V. had a much more cautious approach to the variants available in surviving manuscript “families” of the Greek N.T. and in the “marginalia” of in the various Greek Critical Texts that depart from the Ecclesiastical Text found in the Textus Receptus and the Complutensian Polyglot; indeed, the N.T. of the C.V. seems to have relied upon a more moderate form of Critical Text than of the Critical Texts used by translators in subsequent R.C. and Protestant English Bibles alike.
God blesses the believer who reads His revealed Scriptures carefully and who meditates upon them. That is all the more reason to avoid poor, inadequate, or compromised versions of the Bible, and to read all of it, including the deutero-canonical writings.
The Confraternity Version (C.V.) of Bible took many years to complete. The New Testament thereof came into print long before much of the Old Testament appeared, the latter bit by bit in separate volumes, with single volume editions of the full Bible (including, of course, the deuterocanonical books, which Protestants term Apocrypha) in the intervening period rounding out the Old Testament (O.T.) with the balance in the Douay-Challoner Version for those books of the O.T. which the Confraternity Version project had not yet finalised. As the 1950s rolled by into the mid-1960s, increasingly more of a Confraternity-Douay Bible included the books of the O.T. in the on-going Confraternity Version translation.
The most satisfactory solution, for consulting the Confraternity Version Bible in its fulness, is to use the complete Confraternity O.T. that only appeared separately (in multi-volume and, even more difficult to find, single-volume editions) along with a separately published Confraternity Version N.T.
The Confraternity Version, indeed, was completed when the full O.T. text of the C.V. at last appeared, a fact of which many Roman Catholics and other Christians are not aware. Alas, far inferior New American Bible (N.A.B.) appeared (rather confusingly, also under the auspices of the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine) with the complete texts of both the N.A.B.'s O.T. and of its N.T. in editions that had them together in a single volume rather quickly upon the heels of completion of the C.V., unjustly causing the N.A.B. to displace the C…V. from favour, which resulted in the withdrawal of edtions of the C.V. from the market. Very few (if any) editions (multi-volume or otherwise) of the C.V. with the full O.T. appeared because of this.
Even after the C.V. Old Testament had been completed and, at last, was available in a single volume for the O…T., publishers continued to market single-volume C.V. Bibles comprising both the New and the Old Testaments only in editions that continued to mingle its O.T. with books from the Douay Version; perhaps this was to sell off stocks of Confraternity-Douay Bibles before finally issuing Bible editions including the entire O.T. and N.T. Confraternity texts, something that, regrettably, seems never to have happened.
The best that the buyer can do who wishes to have the great Confraternity Version Bible in a single volume, whether to obtain through the Amazon WWW sites or even otherwise (as of late 2008), is to obtain a mixed edition of the Confraternity Bible that includes its N.T. and as much of the Confraternity O.T. as he can find, with the balance of the O.T. in the Douay-Challoner Version. The better and more comprehensive option with the fewest number of volumes to buy and to use, is to obtain the Confraternity complete O.T. separately, of which Amazon.com has listed two editions, as accessed Nov. 2008, on the Amazon.com WWW site, along with a Confraternity N.T. in another single volume, which thus provides all of the Confraternity Version.
The Knox Bible (a 20th century translation, of high literary quality in its English style, by Ronald Knox, based on the Latin Vulgate with resort also to the Hebrew and Greek texts of, respectively, the O.T. and N.T.) remained in print, but it, also, began to in lose popularity; at any rate, Knox’s translation was too often too paraphrastic to be any kind of rival either to the preceding Douay-Rheims-Challoner Version (from Latin) or to the C.V. (from Hebrew and Greek). There consequently is a crying need all the more for a new printing or new edition of the full C.V., with its entire O.T. included.
There are some inconvenient aspects of the Confraternity and Knox versions for users unfamiliar with them and with earlier Roman Catholic (R.C.) translations, e.g. the numbering of the Psalms (being that of the Latin Vulgate and Greek Septuagint), the use of Latinised forms of names rather than the forms that are more familiar most Protestant Bibles, and now in subsequent R.C. ones, too (e.g. Noe rather than Noah), the Latinised titles used for Old Testament books which in some cases differ significantly from what one is accustomed to encounter both in Protestant and in subsequent R.C. translations, but, due to its overall excellence, one bears gladly with these traits of the C.V.
While the use of a form of the so-called Greek “Critical Text”, inferior to the faithful variants of the Textus Receptus (T.R.) characterises even the C.V.'s New Testament (N.T.), the C.V. had a much more cautious approach to the variants available in surviving manuscript “families” of the Greek N.T. and in the “marginalia” of in the various Greek Critical Texts that depart from the Ecclesiastical Text found in the Textus Receptus and the Complutensian Polyglot; indeed, the N.T. of the C.V. seems to have relied upon a more moderate form of Critical Text than of the Critical Texts used by translators in subsequent R.C. and Protestant English Bibles alike.
God blesses the believer who reads His revealed Scriptures carefully and who meditates upon them. That is all the more reason to avoid poor, inadequate, or compromised versions of the Bible, and to read all of it, including the deutero-canonical writings.
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Jerry_Parker
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Oops! Please excuse me. I already have posted my comments. I am new to this WWW site, so I have to get used to the way that it presents things!
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Manfred
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Jerry,
In very simple terms, what you seem to favor is use of:
(a) the 1941 Confraternity NT, translated from the Latin Vulgate, a revision of the Challoner-Rheims version, and
(b) the Confraternity OT, translated from the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek; this is essentially the OT of the 1970 NAB, EXCEPT for Genesis, which unfortunately was re-translated before its incorporation in the NAB. An earlier version of Genesis appeared in Confraternity OT Volume I: Genesis to Ruth, in 1952. Volume II: Job to Sirach was published in 1955; Volume III: Isaia to Malachia (1961); Volume IV: Samuel to Maccabbees (1969).
In very simple terms, what you seem to favor is use of:
(a) the 1941 Confraternity NT, translated from the Latin Vulgate, a revision of the Challoner-Rheims version, and
(b) the Confraternity OT, translated from the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek; this is essentially the OT of the 1970 NAB, EXCEPT for Genesis, which unfortunately was re-translated before its incorporation in the NAB. An earlier version of Genesis appeared in Confraternity OT Volume I: Genesis to Ruth, in 1952. Volume II: Job to Sirach was published in 1955; Volume III: Isaia to Malachia (1961); Volume IV: Samuel to Maccabbees (1969).
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Jerry_Parker
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Hi, Manfred,
Thanks for your reply, but I did not mean what you state to have been my supposed intention. No, I do not like the New American Bible (N.A.B.), any of it, much at all. It is highly inferior to the Confraternity Version both for the N.T. and for the O.T. (For that matter, the N.A.B. is inferior, as well, even to the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible, and the Catholic Edition of the Revised Standard Version.)
What I had been trying to point out is that the original Confraternity of Christian Doctrine version, termed the “Confraternity Version”, did comprise a full O.T. as well as the 1941 Confraternity Version N.T. The problem is that the Confraternity O.T. never was included, so far as I have been able to verify, in a complete one-volume Bible of both Testaments. What was marketed with the Confraternity N.T. in a single volume was an O.T. partly in the Confraternity Version O.T. and, for the balance, in the Douay-Challoner Version. (There also had been editions from the beginning of the 1950s that had the Confraternity Version N.T. with the O.T. entirely in the Douay-Challoner Version.)
The Confraternity O.T. per se only was published (distinctly before the year 1970) in the late 1960s as a separately available volume (without the N.T. included), in at least two single -volume editions, which, alas, got little distribution. There also was a multi-volume Bible in the Confraternity Version that finally had the last volume of its O.T. released for inclusion at the end of the 1960s, thus completing the set of tomes comprising the multi-volume Confraternity O.T. (under the imprint of the St. Anthony Guild Press).
Few people are aware of the completion of the Confraternity O.T. due to the scarcity of it only in these various published forms, which were withdrawn from the market in 1970 when the New American Bible version appeared.
So far as I know, the N.A.B. Bible always included its own version, one (confusingly!) that also was under the the auspices of the Confraternity for Christian Doctrine, for the N.T. and the O.T. alike; I am not aware of any mixed Confraternity (1941 version) N.T. published with the N.A.B.'s O.T.
I hope that these comments clarify what is, admittedly, a confusing matter!
Jerry Parker
Thanks for your reply, but I did not mean what you state to have been my supposed intention. No, I do not like the New American Bible (N.A.B.), any of it, much at all. It is highly inferior to the Confraternity Version both for the N.T. and for the O.T. (For that matter, the N.A.B. is inferior, as well, even to the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible, and the Catholic Edition of the Revised Standard Version.)
What I had been trying to point out is that the original Confraternity of Christian Doctrine version, termed the “Confraternity Version”, did comprise a full O.T. as well as the 1941 Confraternity Version N.T. The problem is that the Confraternity O.T. never was included, so far as I have been able to verify, in a complete one-volume Bible of both Testaments. What was marketed with the Confraternity N.T. in a single volume was an O.T. partly in the Confraternity Version O.T. and, for the balance, in the Douay-Challoner Version. (There also had been editions from the beginning of the 1950s that had the Confraternity Version N.T. with the O.T. entirely in the Douay-Challoner Version.)
The Confraternity O.T. per se only was published (distinctly before the year 1970) in the late 1960s as a separately available volume (without the N.T. included), in at least two single -volume editions, which, alas, got little distribution. There also was a multi-volume Bible in the Confraternity Version that finally had the last volume of its O.T. released for inclusion at the end of the 1960s, thus completing the set of tomes comprising the multi-volume Confraternity O.T. (under the imprint of the St. Anthony Guild Press).
Few people are aware of the completion of the Confraternity O.T. due to the scarcity of it only in these various published forms, which were withdrawn from the market in 1970 when the New American Bible version appeared.
So far as I know, the N.A.B. Bible always included its own version, one (confusingly!) that also was under the the auspices of the Confraternity for Christian Doctrine, for the N.T. and the O.T. alike; I am not aware of any mixed Confraternity (1941 version) N.T. published with the N.A.B.'s O.T.
I hope that these comments clarify what is, admittedly, a confusing matter!
Jerry Parker
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