Confused about cancellations

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Hi, guys. I’m kind of confused about mass cancellations. As in, why aren’t we going to mass despite the risk? Didn’t so many Christians in Japan, Russia, etc. take much greater risks than we would be undertaking now? Is this different only bc it puts other ppl at risk? Any insights would be appreciated.
 
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Hi, guys. I’m kind of confused about mass cancellations. As in, why aren’t we going to mass despite the risk?
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Because our bishops didn’t think it was prudent to put entire parishes, not to mention their own clergy, at risk of a serious and potentially fatal disease that could overload area hospitals as well as kill people.
Didn’t so many Christians in Japan, Russia, etc. take much greater risks than we would be undertaking now?
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As our mothers used to say, if everybody else jumped off a cliff, would you want to go do it too? Also, do you have some actual proof that the Japanese and Russian Catholics all continued going to Mass and didn’t get sick? Japan isn’t chockablock with Catholics, and it’s my understanding that a whole lot of people in Russia did get sick.
Is this different only bc it puts other ppl at risk?
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Different from what? We’ve been refraining from almost all “gathering” activities for the last couple months, not just Mass.
 
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No, I’m saying… How is it different than in history when persecuted Christians went to mask at the risk of getting killed.
 
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Because this involves the risk of killing others.
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That’s the major reason. Some other reasons:
  • It was a temporary pause in public attendance at Masses, not a permanent or indefinite one. As such it was just a temporary sacrifice for the common good rather than someone trying to force us to abandon our faith.
  • Masses still continued every day and we could pray along with them every day via video but not receive Jesus or be there in person
  • It’s a moot point now as many if not most of us are already going back to Mass or will be in the next couple weeks
 
Okay. Thank you. I needed it explained more logically like that.
 
iamheartilysorr said:
Hi, guys. I’m kind of confused about mass cancellations. As in, why aren’t we going to mass despite the risk? Didn’t so many Christians in Japan, Russia, etc. take much greater risks than we would be undertaking now? Is this different only bc it puts other ppl at risk? Any insights would be appreciated.
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Wee are not dealing with governments which banned Mass, etc. out of hatred for it.

We are dealing with a pandemic, which has shown a far faster rate of transmission of the disease than the normal flu. What little knowledge we had at the beginning, thanks to the deception on the part of the CCP was that it appeared deadly to certain groups (elderly and those with impacted immune systems, among others) and there was a legitimate fear that without radical reaction to it, the spread would effectively overwhelm our medical system (and Italy was a poster child for that problem).

It not only put people at risk (of catching it) but also clearly could completely overwhelm medical responses.

What is extremely under-reported is not the number of deaths; it is the number of people who have caught the virus and have “recovered” - by which I mean, they have permanent lung damage, or possible damage to other parts of the body.

Japan went into a lockdown; when they came out of it they had a significant upsurge in new cases. China, which has draconian control over its people, had a massive and far more restrictive lockdown than the US; and they are in their second massive lockdown (at least).

There are a large number of “Monday Morning Quarterbacks” going around saying that the response in the US was terrible, too late, over reaching, and a number of other negative critiques to what we as a country did. Not a single one of them has been able to articulate how they could have made better decision based on the little and inadequate information we had at the time decisions were being made.

In other words, people who stand to think they will benefit are politicizing the responses.

This is a more extended reaction (by the Church) than it does during flu season, where reception from the Cup is temporarily halted. So it is not like this is something completely out of the blue.
 
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I’m kind of confused about mass cancellations. As in, why aren’t we going to mass despite the risk? Didn’t so many Christians in Japan, Russia, etc. take much greater risks than we would be undertaking now? Is this different only bc it puts other ppl at risk? Any insights would be appreciated.
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In the midst of increasingly threatening earth tremors (and with an earthquake warning in place), would you enter the church just prior to a scheduled mass time, or would you stand aside till the threat to your life and your family’s life has receded? And what do you anticipate the Priest would do?
 
We didn’t go originally because we didn’t understand much about this virus. We didn’t go later because it was too hard to either stand up to the governors and/or putting in place processes to deal with distancing and cleaning. We do not go now because of these reasons as well as fear. This virus is overhyped by the media and ongoing fear is fueled by election year politics.

You are right, people risked their lives to go to mass. They also risked the lives of every other person present at that mass if they were followed. What a statement it would have been to have the bishops stand up to the governors and say that we would go to mass, that we would take precautions but that we do not fear death and that we would rather die than not go to mass. I know, this is only for past generations, we are much more sophisticated than that now. We can still “believe” but not act on our beliefs when there is danger.
 
The rule of love reigns. Since we know not if we carry the virus, love demands that we deny ourselves for their sake, as they are members of Christ’s Mystical Body on earth.

Love desires the good of the “other.”

Love does not count the cost.
By the envy of the devil, death entered the world.
  • Wisdom 2:24
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By avoiding the potential infection of others, we serve God in love and deny the devil his evil desires.
 
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