Consecrated virgins - why only females?

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JanSobieskiIII said:
Women being barred from priesthood is discrimination.
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It is important to note, however, that the Pope taught that it is to be definitely held that the ordination of women is impossible, not forbidden. That is the sense in which we are not “barred” from being ordained priests.
 
That’s going to depend on how you see the word impossible.

Many Protestant denominations have “ordained” women. We of course see it as the error it is. They however do not.
 
The real issue, ultimately, is whether it is reserving the ministerial priesthood is a just discrimination or an unjust discrimination.

Given the nuptial theme that pervades all of salvation history, with God as the bridegroom and his people (including Israel and then the Church, the new Israel) as his receptive bride, and because Jesus Christ became man to salvifically betrothe his Church through his Self-Gift of Calvary(see Eph. 5:21-33), God has fittingly reserved the ministerial priesthood to men.

Indeed, Christ’s becoming male as the Incarnate Word, is neither incidental nor unimportant. And thus Christ, through the Church, freely and fittingly reserved to men this ministerial priestly role of bridegroom, particularly in carrying out the sacramental re-presentation of Calvary, i.e., the Sacrifice of the Mass.

For on this subject, see St. John Paul II’s Ordinatio Sacerdotalis

http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-p...p-ii_apl_19940522_ordinatio-sacerdotalis.html

and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s Inter Insigniores.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...cfaith_doc_19761015_inter-insigniores_en.html
 
In the traditional Catholic use of the term, a virgin is a woman who has never been physically penetrated. Men cannot be virgins in this sense of the word. When you look at classifications of saints in the Roman Martyrology, only women who meet that criteria are labeled as Virgins with a capital V. Likewise only such physical virgins can be consecrated as such.
 
see there you are with blinkers on and using modern secular values.

it might surprise people screaming discrimination to know that there are cultures, places, institutions where the specific roles and business of males and of females are respected and upheld.
 
Whats so hard to understamd about submission and obedience to the Holy See and to the way Jesus set up His Church
 
twf said:
In the traditional Catholic use of the term, a virgin is a woman who has never been physically penetrated. Men cannot be virgins in this sense of the word. When you look at classifications of saints in the Roman Martyrology, only women who meet that criteria are labeled as Virgins with a capital V. Likewise only such physical virgins can be consecrated as such.
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^^ see above.
 
Rose, you’re not doing anyone any favors with this spamming. Please reply with as few posts as possible.
 
You list yiur religion as atheist. You will not be understanding how the Consecrated soul is changed. You will not be understand what confecting the Eucharist into the real body blood soul and divinity of Jesus means. You will not be understanding what the Priesthood of all peoples is in the Body of the Church
 
Exactly. Which is why I sincerely ask you to stop spamming this thread- no one’s mind will be changed through this.
 
no. they cant be consecrated virgins, but read song of songs. Men can be and are virgins until otherwise.
 
i am on a small phone so i cannit reply in bulk.

So its this way until back on the tablet. This android doesnt quote text. Its an issue with the forums.

Noones mind will be changed unless the grace of God gifts them Wisdom to understand.

its awesome to see cammoderator posting
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
You list yiur religion as atheist. You will not be understanding how the Consecrated soul is changed. You will not be understand what confecting the Eucharist into the real body blood soul and divinity of Jesus means. You will not be understanding what the Priesthood of all peoples is in the Body of the Church
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I was Catholic before. I studied the church for a long time before completing rcia. I know a great deal. You should think before you post.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
That’s going to depend on how you see the word impossible.

Many Protestant denominations have “ordained” women. We of course see it as the error it is. They however do not.
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The thing is that they do not understand the ministerial office in the same way that we do. In a way, we allow women to do what they allow women to do. We allow women to lead others in prayer or sacred song, for instance. It happens at convents all of the time. Women can instruct the ignorant, admonish sinners and counsel the doubtful. Women can write reflections on Sacred Scriptures and the faith that anyone might profit from. That isn’t the same as being a priest, any more than every prayer service is the same as the Mass.
 
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Right, and while I understand the difference, as does every other informed catholic, that difference only matters to US. To the rest of the worlds Christians (outside other apostolic churches such as the EO) our mass is no different than there church service. It’s just our interpretation of worship.
 
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