Conservative dissent is brewing inside the Vatican

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By Anthony Faiola September 7 at 7:33 PM Follow @Anthony_Faiola

VATICAN CITY — On a sunny morning earlier this year, a camera crew entered a well-appointed apartment just outside the 9th-century gates of Vatican City. Pristinely dressed in the black robes and scarlet sash of the princes of the Roman Catholic Church, the Wisconsin-born Cardinal Raymond Burke sat in his elaborately upholstered armchair and appeared to issue a warning to Pope Francis.

A staunch conservative and Vatican bureaucrat, Burke had been demoted by the pope a few months earlier, but it did not take the fight out of him. Francis had been backing a more inclusive era, giving space to progressive voices on divorced Catholics as well as gays and lesbians. In front of the camera, Burke said he would “resist” liberal changes — and seemed to caution Francis about the limits of his authority. “One must be very attentive regarding the power of the pope,” Burke told the French news crew.

Papal power, Burke warned, “is not absolute.” He added, “The pope does not have the power to change teaching [or] doctrine.”

Burke’s words belied a growing sense of alarm among strict conservatives, exposing what is fast emerging as a culture war over Francis’s papacy and the powerful hierarchy that governs the Roman Catholic Church.

This month, Francis makes his first trip to the United States at a time when his progressive allies are heralding him as a revolutionary, a man who only last week broadened the power of priests to forgive women who commit what Catholic teachings call the “mortal sin” of abortion during his newly declared “year of mercy” starting in December. On Sunday, he called for “every” Catholic parish in Europe to offer shelter to one refugee family from the thousands of asylum-seekers risking all to escape war-torn Syria and other pockets of conflict and poverty.

Yet as he upends church convention, Francis also is grappling with a conservative backlash to the liberal momentum building inside the church. In more than a dozen interviews, including with seven senior church officials, insiders say the change has left the hierarchy more polarized over the direction of the church than at any point since the great papal reformers of the 1960s.

The conservative rebellion is taking on many guises, in public comments, yes, but also in the rising popularity of conservative Catholic Web sites promoting Francis dissenters; books and promotional materials backed by conservative clerics seeking to counter the liberal trend; and leaks to the news media, aimed at Vatican reformers.

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washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-conservative-revolt-is-brewing-inside-the-vatican/2015/09/07/1d8e02ba-4b3d-11e5-80c2-106ea7fb80d4_story.html
 
I cannot see anything that the Pope has said that goes against Catholic Doctrine. He echoes the words of Christ to the woman caught in adultery…“Go, sin no more.” The mercy of the confessional was always open to women who abort their children, so beloved by their Creator. It is simply a procedural change to Canon Law in the year of Mercy which has been initiated by the Pope.
His request to all parishes to house one refugee family is nothing but an exhortation to Christian Charity. Many would like to see this as division and revolution within the Church. I can see nothing but the pastoral care of a great Pontiff.
 
I just finished reading the article a few minutes ago and the author is really confused about how the church works. There are a lot of fundamental problems with it. The American press needs to learn that were the Church is concerned the U. S. just registers as a footnote.
 
I find Burke confusing. On the one hand Burke is ready to resist liberal changes but on the other hand he says the Pope can’t change doctrine or teaching anyway. So I don’t get what Burke is ready for.
 
I don’t think it is Burke so much as the author is confuse by what Burke is trying to say. The issue is that Francis is comfortable with hearing a lot of ideas even if he disagrees with them. Burke and others feel that discussion leads others to think that changes will follow. The liberals assume that Francis wouldn’t allow discussion unless he was willing to change things. Francis, I think, just wants to hear from as many voices as he can, not so much because he expects to make major changes but so he will know how to spread his message so that he will be understood.
 
I don’t think it is Burke so much as the author is confuse by what Burke is trying to say. The issue is that Francis is comfortable with hearing a lot of ideas even if he disagrees with them. Burke and others feel that discussion leads others to think that changes will follow. The liberals assume that Francis wouldn’t allow discussion unless he was willing to change things. Francis, I think, just wants to hear from as many voices as he can, not so much because he expects to make major changes but so he will know how to spread his message so that he will be understood.
👍 I agree. That was well said.
 
Every organization I ever worked for had a certain amount of dissent. They’re human after all and will always have differences. Nothing real noteworthy here.
 
There is a CAF rule not to criticize clergy. I see intentions to downgrade Cardinal Burke. That is against the CAF rule.
 
“The conservative rebellion is taking on many guises, in public comments, yes, but also in the rising popularity of conservative Catholic Web sites promoting Francis dissenters; books and promotional materials backed by conservative clerics seeking to counter the liberal trend; and leaks to the news media, aimed at Vatican reformers.”
I’ve just put a lot of contemplation into this aspect of ‘conservatives’ opposed to the Pope, because I do consider myself to be conservative on many levels and I think we need to really get the monikers right. Pope Francis himself identified ‘traditionalists’ and ‘intellectuals’ as holding to problematic attitudes when it comes to the Churchs walk with people of our time. That is not technically ‘conservatives’. I mean, being honest… we all know the type of radical traditionalist and dissociated intellectuals that put the spanners in the works. We need to be thinking of ‘conservative’ as per the whole worlds definition of conservative and not just feel defined by the American ultra version of conservative.
 
The liberal media has crafted a narrative of “liberal Pope Francis” vs “conservative members of the hierarchy”, but the reality seems far more complicated. Pope Francis is hard to pin down. He has seemingly empowered certain members of the hierarchy who most would identify as being more on the “liberal” side of the fence…but he has likewise included staunch ‘conservatives’ in his inner circle. The media claims Cardinal Burke was demoted. In a political, worldly sense his current position as Cardinal Patron of the Knights of Malta is less “powerful” than his former post…but he now travels around the world preaching, celebrating traditional liturgies, meeting with the faithful. His influence is not at all diminished. Did the Holy Father really seek to “punish” him as the media claims? I am not at all convinced. There are definitely bishops of a more liberal bent in the Holy Father’s inner circle…but then what of Cardinals Pell, Mueller, or Sarah? The Holy Father has kept Mueller in the all important post of Prefect of the CDF despite his very traditional positions on communion for the divorced / remarried. The Holy Father has appointed Cardinal Sarah Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship - a bishop so traditional in his tastes that he has lauded and promoted Ad Orientem worship and suggested elements of the Extraordinary Form should be incorporated into the Ordinary Form. No…the reality is far more complex than the media suggests.
 
There is a CAF rule not to criticize clergy. I see intentions to downgrade Cardinal Burke. That is against the CAF rule.
If that happens, I am sure someone will report it and action will be taken. I do not see any criticism of him so far. Let us have hope all will behave.
 
I find Burke confusing. On the one hand Burke is ready to resist liberal changes but on the other hand he says the Pope can’t change doctrine or teaching anyway. So I don’t get what Burke is ready for.
Since you do not fully adhere to church teachings it would be very hard for you to understand the issue here. Relying on a secular media person for a good analysis of what Pope Francis is trying to accomplish or what Cardinal Burke is trying to convey are a mistake. If you really knew what the church teaches it would be very easy for you to see media spin in all this reporting.
 
I don’t think it is Burke so much as the author is confuse by what Burke is trying to say. The issue is that Francis is comfortable with hearing a lot of ideas even if he disagrees with them. Burke and others feel that discussion leads others to think that changes will follow. The liberals assume that Francis wouldn’t allow discussion unless he was willing to change things. Francis, I think, just wants to hear from as many voices as he can, not so much because he expects to make major changes but so he will know how to spread his message so that he will be understood.
As a liberal who knows what the Catholic Church teaches I welcome Francis’s tone and greater willingness to hear many voices but never have I expected him to be willing to change things. I actually have told my liberal friends, yes Francis has a tone and style and demeanor that many of us have found refreshing but he isn’t going to change doctrine or teaching. That’s all that confused me about Burke saying he was ready to resist liberal changes even though as he stated the Pope can’t make the changes. So by saying he is ready to resist liberal changes, Burke then didn’t actually mean he was ready to resist change since it can’t occur but only that he is ready to resist these other voices Francis wants to hear?
 
The media is just playing the old con of “Let’s you and him fight”
 
“We have a serious issue right now, a very alarming situation where Catholic priests and bishops are saying and doing things that are against what the church teaches, talking about same-sex unions, about Communion for those who are living in adultery,” the official said. “And yet the pope does nothing to silence them. So the inference is that this is what the pope wants.”

If you read the entire article you will see this quote, and frankly this is the heart of the problem. Additionally, I think that we should stop blaming the media and recognize that there is a very real and deep divide right now.
 
In my view, Pope Francis is attempting to refocus the Church’s teaching and pastoral care on the needs of the poor and disadvantaged and to deemphasize issues of sexual morality, such as divorce and remarriage, birth control, and abortion. I’ve seen no change in doctrine under Pope Francis; his efforts have largely been to change pastoral practice.

The cultural warriors among Church leaders like Cardinal Burke don’t like Pope Francis’ approach, which is so different from that of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, who together led the church for 35 years. For my part, I welcome Francis’ leadership.
 
I find Burke confusing. On the one hand Burke is ready to resist liberal changes but on the other hand he says the Pope can’t change doctrine or teaching anyway. So I don’t get what Burke is ready for.
Maybe because he remembers Humanae Vitae and knows very well that doctrine and teaching could be changed. And he surely is also familiar with Dei Verbum.
 
In my view, Pope Francis is attempting to refocus the Church’s teaching and pastoral care on the needs of the poor and disadvantaged and to deemphasize issues of sexual morality, such as divorce and remarriage, birth control, and abortion. I’ve seen no change in doctrine under Pope Francis; his efforts have largely been to change pastoral practice.

The cultural warriors among Church leaders like Cardinal Burke don’t like Pope Francis’ approach, which is so different from that of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, who together led the church for 35 years. For my part, I welcome Francis’ leadership.
I agree. I’ve said as much in threads about Pope Francis more than once.
 
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