Conservatives call on GOP leaders to step down

[pete_29]

I do not agree with this, I understand your point; however, I believe the fact that 3 million less people came out for Romney than McCain is very telling. How long has it been since a real conservative was on the ballot and there was a frenzy to go out and vote for him…that would be Reagan. We haven’t had one since. If you would see a pure conservative on the presidential ticket, he/she would win in my opinion.

I hope you are right, but things seem pretty bleak to me. If the Republicans had made some gains in the Senate and House I might think different , but it seems more and more that fewer people each election will vote for a Republican. If we ever get to a point where this is a one party country, God help us all.

 

[BroomWagon]

Santorum was a fine candidate, ran into some obstacles but it is inspiring nonetheless that he basically took off to the Iowa Caucases by himself and spoke to small groups, really on a shoestring.

 

[meltzerboy]

I think he had a clear chance of energizing the republican base because of his authentic conservative past, perfect? No, but I think he could have done better. His biggest weakness was his support of past spending, but he did address this in the primary.

I admire Santorum because he stands up for what he believes, especially with respect to his moral principles, and you know exactly where he stands. If he were the Republican candidate, he would have been painted as an extreme social conservative by the Obama administration, out of touch with the mainstream, but he could never have been accused of being a flip-flopper. Would Santorum have won? I’m not sure, but I know he would have put up a more honest fight than Romney.

 

[Mark121359]

God sent his own chosen people into exile in Babylon for their disobedience. It has become abundantly clear to the most casual observer that the majority of voters like big secular government that gives them “freebies” [some of them immoral] paid for by other people. What message could possibly compete with that? The conservative message of rising on your own initiative is falling on deaf ears. Therefore, the Republican Party is through because it couldn’t defeat even the über liberals, and firing its leadership will not solve the problem because there is no message that can compete with the promise of a “free” lunch.

Perhaps its best course of action is for the long run by letting the Democrats have their way; and when society is finally in “exile” long enough, maybe then the voters will listen.

I couldn’t agree with you more on this! But eventually, these “freebies” will take us over the cliff. All you have to do is look at Greece to see where this “handout mentality” ergo socialism, finally lands you. God help us all!

 

[CMatt25]

So you think Santorum might have won?

I don’t. He couldn’t even win the primary and nomination.

 

[He_Man]

They’ve also lost Senate races and the Presidential candidate who spent months and months catering to them in primaries lost in an Electoral College landslide this yr. We’ve had 2008 and 2010 and now 2012. I wish they were and everyone who voted in this election would get out and vote in midterms. But midterm electorates are not necesarily the same as in Presidential yrs.

So you are saying some candidates lost, and some won? Interesting.

The messenger is more powerful than the message. The Tea Party has had two elections, 2010 and 2012.

Every party examines their losses after a major election. Was the democratic party dead after 1988’s election? They got two terms of Clinton. Were they dead after failing to defeat Bush twice?

Not saying you are Matt, but anyone claiming this party is dead or that party is dead is ignorant of history.

 

[Lapey]

Well beyond that I don’t believe I am compromising my soul based on how I vote in secular elections as you apparently believe I am, I posted it because, Lapey, it is an American secular election that we are talking about. No one who voted in the 2012 US election was voting on the next Pope. And America is a land of many faiths and beliefs. It is not a Catholic theocracy. And the law of the land in America is not going to always coincide with your church’s teachings. As much as you may wish it was or that it did.

You can believe what you like, but being a Catholic you know what is expected of you. Again, if I am the only one left in America that beieves the Church is correct, I sahll preach it from the rooftops because it is truth.

Secularism has snuck into the clergy, its time to toss it out! This is where the confussion is starting.

 

[CMatt25]

I think he had a clear chance of energizing the republican base because of his authentic conservative past, perfect? No, but I think he could have done better. His biggest weakness was his support of past spending, but he did address this in the primary.

He apparently didn’t energize the base enough to win the nomination. The base I’m assuming voted in primaries. It could have rallied around him if he was so great.

 

[Tigg]

If 100% of American Catholics are against the Church, the Church is still correct. Period.

Get this in your head, it does not matter what is modern, or popular, or legal, it matters what is morally right in God’s eyes, unless there is no heaven or afterlife.

Hear, hear !!!

 

[qui_est_ce]

Santorum was a fine candidate, ran into some obstacles but it is inspiring nonetheless that he basically took off to the Iowa Caucases by himself and spoke to small groups, really on a shoestring.

Maybe we can put forth a Santorum/Ryan ticket in 2016.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

So you think Santorum might have won?

Possibly.

 

[jediliz]

Santorum was a fine candidate, ran into some obstacles but it is inspiring nonetheless that he basically took off to the Iowa Caucases by himself and spoke to small groups, really on a shoestring.

I have to wonder, if his youngest daughter hadn’t been in the hospital and he wouldn’t have suspended his campaign…could he have been nominated and beat Obama? \

Santorum was my original choice, tied with Herman Cain.

I’d like to see a different Speaker of the House picked from the Republicans.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

Maybe we can put forth a Santorum/Ryan ticket in 2016.

Never happen. Two Catholics.

Either Ryan/female or Rubio/female

 

[Lapey]

I hope you are right, but things seem pretty bleak to me. If the Republicans had made some gains in the Senate and House I might think different , but it seems more and more that fewer people each election will vote for a Republican. If we ever get to a point where this is a one party country, God help us all.

Its not about making gains, it is about being right. If we live our lives according to God’s will He will take care of the rest. People will want what we have, I assure you this is true, I’ve seen it. If we continue to look like the other guy, why should we be seen as anything different? Everything must be in Christ driven by the Spirit and all glory given to God the Father!

We have to be the leaders, we have to take the bushel baskets off of the light so it can be seen; we need to call out wrong when we see it, and teach right by our lives!

If we continue to “try to be liked” we will continue to be hated.

Go to your pastors, priests, and deacons. Ask them why they don’t preach the truth, the bare un-adulterated truth. Call you bishop’s office; demand an answer to why the bishops weren’t clearer. Demand that they become more clear and passionate about the faith. It’s up to us, clergy and laity to make the difference.

Sorry, I got a little excited there…lol

 

[Lapey]

I admire Santorum because he stands up for what he believes, especially with respect to his moral principles, and you know exactly where he stands. If he were the Republican candidate, he would have been painted as an extreme social conservative by the Obama administration, out of touch with the mainstream, but he could never have been accused of being a flip-flopper. Would Santorum have won? I’m not sure, but I know he would have put up a more honest fight than Romney.

Exactly, he is real. There is no better way to campaign. And I say, let Obama lie, we know this is what he would do no matter who he is against. run on a true life, that can win.

 

[CMatt25]

Not saying you are Matt, but anyone claiming this party is dead or that party is dead is ignorant of history.

Good because I’m not saying that at all. I remember like you do the times when people said the Democratic Party was on the brink. And they’ve had various successes electorally in 2006, 2008, 2012. Also the American political spectrum up until now at least has also seen the pendulum swing back and forth. I’d fully expect the Republicans to adapt and make changes as well. Whether they make the ones they need to in order to remain viable nationally in Presidential elections, time will tell.

 

[Lapey]

I don’t. He couldn’t even win the primary and nomination.

But Matt, you have to admit there are very big differences in the primary and the general election. I’m not saying he would have won, but I am saying he would have done better at getting the base out. To have 3 million less votes than McCain is embarrassing.

 

[He_Man]

Good because I’m not saying that at all. I remember like you do the times when people said the Democratic Party was on the brink. And they’ve had various successes electorally in 2006, 2008, 2012. Also the American political spectrum up until now at least has also seen the pendulum swing back and forth. I’d fully expect the Republicans to adapt and make changes as well. Whether they make the ones they need to in order to remain viable, time will tell.

Agreed.

 

[meltzerboy]

I hope you are right, but things seem pretty bleak to me. If the Republicans had made some gains in the Senate and House I might think different , but it seems more and more that fewer people each election will vote for a Republican. If we ever get to a point where this is a one party country, God help us all.

With the changing demographic, the Republican Party will have to reinvent itself. But it can be done with some of its new stars. If Republicans refuse to make any changes, they MAY disappear and another party may take its place. However, I don’t see this happening. I don’t believe we will ever be a one-party country: we’re not built that way.

 

[CMatt25]

You can believe what you like, but being a Catholic you know what is expected of you. Again, if I am the only one left in America that beieves the Church is correct, I sahll preach it from the rooftops because it is truth.

Secularism has snuck into the clergy, its time to toss it out! This is where the confussion is starting.

Truly I wish you would refrain from suggesting I am a Catholic. As it is not anywhere in my profile and if I were one according to your church, it would appear in my profile on a Catholic Answers site.