Conservatives call on GOP leaders to step down

[Lapey]

Not off topic at all. If GOP leaders and their followers think that people need interpreters to “repeat to them” the fact that someone is talking down to them - then they have a greater problem than I had imagined.

The difference is they do not have the media, besides Fox, repeating the campaign message day in and day out.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Fools because they refuse to vote for people who very obviously have not a shred of respect for them? How many brain cells does it take to figure that out?

Obama doesn’t respect or care about the people of this country.To think so is naive.That really is the puzzling issue.Those that support Obama are fooled into thinking he is really going to come to their rescue.He exploits,women,peope of color,the downtrodden.What has he done so far to improve their lives.All talk,smoke and mirrors. Sadly by the time folks wake up to this fact,it will be too late…

 

[Cider]

If some people wouldn’t respond to those on my ignore list, I wouldn’t see them at all.

LOL I hear ya. I sometimes wish that it auto blocked quotes from those on your ignore list, it would be easier.

 

[BroomWagon]

Fools because they refuse to vote for people who very obviously have not a shred of respect for them? How many brain cells does it take to figure that out?

What’s your definition of respect? People like Obama who would allow live babies to die? That’s funny.

 

[Lapey]

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/what-did-rick-santorum-say-welfare-comments-scrutinized/
There is a video in this article that is what he said. There are other videos out there that have been tampered with to make it sound more like he said “black” and they don’t have the full content of what he was saying.

Ok, thanks. I have seen this. But I would ask, how is this ofensive but Biden’s “they gunna put yall back in chains” comment not offensive? Not directed to you, but anyone who can explain why teh republican cadidate is automatically labled racist, but the racists comment from Biden is ignored everywhere but Fox?

I know enough about Santorum to know he is not racists. He is a devout Catholic and he accepts the teachings as face value. The Church has declared racism intrinsic evil, real racism.

 

[pete_29]

Fools because they refuse to vote for people who very obviously have not a shred of respect for them? How many brain cells does it take to figure that out?

How many brain cells does it take to figure out this isn’t about respect it’s about money.

 

[zab]

Ok, thanks. I have seen this. But I would ask, how is this ofensive but Biden’s “they gunna put yall back in chains” comment not offensive? Not directed to you, but anyone who can explain why teh republican cadidate is automatically labled racist, but the racists comment from Biden is ignored everywhere but Fox?

I know enough about Santorum to know he is not racists. He is a devout Catholic and he accepts the teachings as face value. The Church has declared racism intrinsic evil, real racism.

I think it is a tactic to try and cause some outrage in order to smear a candidate as well as to deflect from what is actually being said.

 

[Cider]

Help us out here, what did Santorum say that stereotyped blacks and show him as a racist. I’m not familiar with this one.

What it boils down to is that they refuse to believe that a conservative white man cares about black children and families so they call him a racist for daring to state facts about welfare and abortion and it’s disproportionate injury to the black community.

He stands up and talks about how the black families have been hurt by welfare because poor parents have been forced to live apart so that the mothers and children can get assistance. About how 40% ( IIRC) of pregnancies to black women end in abortion. I no longer remember the exact number but extremely high rates of pregnancies are to unwed mothers and how not being married or educated is highly associated with poverty.

How dare he want financially and emotionally strong black families.

 

[Cider]

I think it is a tactic to try and cause some outrage in order to smear a candidate as well as to deflect from what is actually being said.

precisely!

 

[seekerz]

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/what-did-rick-santorum-say-welfare-comments-scrutinized/
There is a video in this article that is what he said. There are other videos out there that have been tampered with to make it sound more like he said “black” and they don’t have the full content of what he was saying.

I heard him say it on TV, I also heard his explanation - so it you want to call the video tampered,fine. From my perspective, it fits in perfectly with the narrative that prevailed in the Republican primaries.

 

[seekerz]

What it boils down to is that they refuse to believe that a conservative white man cares about black children and families so they call him a racist for daring to state facts about welfare and abortion and it’s disproportionate injury to the black community.

He stands up and talks about how the black families have been hurt by welfare because poor parents have been forced to live apart so that the mothers and children can get assistance. About how 40% ( IIRC) of pregnancies to black women end in abortion. I no longer remember the exact number but extremely high rates of pregnancies are to unwed mothers and how not being married or educated is highly associated with poverty.

How dare he want financially and emotionally strong black families.

How dare anyone assume that black families are generally financially and emotionally weak? This black woman is yet to find a family she would exchange for her admittedly imperfect and nontraditional one.

There is a conversation which can be had about black people that does not involve poverty or broken families, and anyone who can’t appreciate that does not care about the real us - whether or not they believe they do.

 

[seekerz]

precisely!

What does it matter? He said what he said, we heard what we heard - and the electorate has spoken. Now the choice conservatives have is to dig in if they believe they are right and don’t need to change, or examine their attitudes and perhaps see a changed equation with regard to minorities.

 

[zab]

I left a message on the GOP contact page that the GOP lost this election, not because Barack Obama won the popular vote among the people, but because the GOP FAILED to give fair support to candidates that truly support the party platform. And if the GOP hasn’t learned it yet, many are not going to take it anymore. I don’t blame those who did not vote for either candidate for the loss of this election.

 

[seekerz]

What’s your definition of respect? People like Obama who would allow live babies to die? That’s funny.

Obama cannot decide who lives and who dies: God and the women to whom He entrusts those lives are who make that decision.

What’s funny is trying to convince people that one can respect the unborn while having utter disdain for their parents.

 

[Tigg]

Oh I was responding to “Sooooo…secularism trumps divine law, huh?” What I am saying is non Catholics do not necessarily interpret God’s law as you do. That’s all I was saying. Take the United Church of Christ for just one example. They believe God is still speaking as our finite minds come to further understanding. Which coincidentally is the Christian eccelsial community in which President Obama was baptized in. As President he has attended an Episcopal church.

I am not asking as a Catholic. I know you have an agenda, but please leave the Catholics out of this for now. Yours is a non-answer to a simple question…I posted a quote (twice) and asked if non-Catholic Christians believe God is sovereign from which His divine law flows???

 

[zab]

I heard him say it on TV, I also heard his explanation - so it you want to call the video tampered,fine. From my perspective, it fits in perfectly with the narrative that prevailed in the Republican primaries.

Read my statement again. I said that the video in the article was what he said. I said that I listened to another video that was tampered with to make it sound more like he said “black”. But that is not the point. The point of what he was trying to say is being totally ignored in order to attempt to smear the character of a good person.

 

[TexCatholic4JMJ]

I left a message on the GOP contact page that the GOP lost this election, not because Barack Obama won the popular vote among the people, but because the GOP FAILED to give fair support to candidates that truly support the party platform. And if the GOP hasn’t learned it yet, many are not going to take it anymore. I don’t blame those who did not vote for either candidate for the loss of this election.

I agree with some of this post. The “elite” GOP ignored the base because they knew we
would go with the candidate who was most pro-life, marriage between a man and a woman,
etc. They took us for granted. However, I am not one who is looking for the perfect
candidate and ,no way would I have stayed home. Yeah, “they” didn’t want to bring up
the strong platform (mainly due to strong pro-lifers, a lot from Texas!!!) and so the “elite”
lost, but so did we!

 

[_Abyssinia]

I agree with some of this post. The “elite” GOP ignored the base because they knew we
would go with the candidate who was most pro-life, marriage between a man and a woman,
etc. They took us for granted. However, I am not one who is looking for the perfect
candidate and ,no way would I have stayed home. Yeah, “they” didn’t want to bring up
the strong platform (mainly due to strong pro-lifers, a lot from Texas!!!) and so the “elite”
lost, but so did we!

I think David Limabugh gets it right, although there are other reasons perhaps why Romney lost in addition

Exit polls reveal that millions of Republicans stayed home, with the GOP having garnered fewer votes than John McCain in 2008. This is why the pollsters turned out to be correct. They were basing their models on a weak Republican turnout. Many conservatives mistakenly thought that was absurd on its face, not just because Obama was no longer the messianic figure he was in 2008 and now had a disastrous record but because of the intensity we had witnessed ourselves from 2009 on.

A combination of factors coalesced to yield this result. Too many evangelicals didn’t vote, not because of any anti-Mormon prejudice, in my view, but because they weren’t convinced that Romney was legitimately pro-life. I know this happened. I received the emails. This anti-Romney campaign was intense and relentless. Those eager to expel social conservatives from the party should save themselves time and liquidate the Republican Party, which would not survive without them. We don’t have to be strident, and we must address social issues more intelligently, but we can surely prevail on social issues against a party that tries to kick God out of its platform and is far more extreme than Republicans.

Also, many libertarians and other strong economic conservatives are fed up with the blurred distinctions between the parties and with Republican capitulation to monstrous federal government expansions and spending.

There was also a significant number of Republicans who weren’t adequately informed about Obama’s record or convinced that his second term would be as disastrous as many of us expect it will be.

davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2012/11/new_column_time_10.html

 

[zab]

I agree with some of this post. The “elite” GOP ignored the base because they knew we
would go with the candidate who was most pro-life, marriage between a man and a woman,
etc. They took us for granted. However, I am not one who is looking for the perfect
candidate and ,no way would I have stayed home. Yeah, “they” didn’t want to bring up
the strong platform (mainly due to strong pro-lifers, a lot from Texas!!!) and so the “elite”
lost, but so did we!

I did vote in this election, but I can understand why some didn’t. And they are not to be blamed for the loss election. The GOP has to take some responsibility for the loss. The GOP has failed us.

 

[BroomWagon]

I did vote in this election, but I can understand why some didn’t. And they are not to be blamed for the loss election. The GOP has to take some responsibility for the loss. The GOP has failed us.

I don’t fault people who voted for the Constitution Party’s Virgil Goode, I like that party’s platform but I did not vote for it. As for me, I’m not faulting Romney or the GOP, Romney made compromises in the past, but his is still an American story, of working hard to achieve success, he gives a whole lot to charity which dwarfs what Biden and Obama give to people. Romney may well have missed a number of Fundamentalist Votes but those would also be in the Red States for the most part.

The GOP did not fail me, just speaking for myself. Romney has created jobs.

Obama should be the one who is viewed as lacking compassion, trying to drive the coal industry out of business, not allowing those workers to get jobs, being big friends with big unions.