Conservatives push to speed up Obamacare repeal

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*Congressional Republicans are itching to dismantle Obamacare, but a group of conservatives say the current plan to take down key parts of the law is not quick enough, and is already pushing for alternatives that completely and immediately repeal it entirely.

Republicans in the House and Senate have pointed to a repeal bill that was approved last year through a procedural move called reconciliation as a means to quickly gut the law after Trump assumes office in January. Reconciliation bills require only a simple 51-vote majority as opposed to 60 votes to break a filibuster, which means they’re a way to quickly pass a proposal in the Senate.

Republicans haven’t announced what would be included in a new reconciliation bill, but a top conservative group is pushing for any package to go much further than the one President Obama already vetoed this year.

“We obviously need to do reconciliation but the bill needs to go further to make sure that we get all of Obamacare,” said Dan Holler, spokesman for Heritage Action, the political advocacy arm of the right-leaning think tank Heritage Foundation.*
 
I wonder what they plan to replace it with? Are they just going to take away the insurance of 20 million people and leave it at that? I wonder if Trump would veto such a bill?
 
Whatever they’re getting, I hope they’re all happy with it, and that includes possible changes to Medicare and Medicaid.
 
AFerri48 said:
washingtonexaminer.com/conservatives-push-to-speed-up-obamacare-repeal/article/2607822

*Congressional Republicans are itching to dismantle Obamacare, but a group of conservatives say the current plan to take down key parts of the law is not quick enough, and is already pushing for alternatives that completely and immediately repeal it entirely.

Republicans in the House and Senate have pointed to a repeal bill that was approved last year through a procedural move called reconciliation as a means to quickly gut the law after Trump assumes office in January. Reconciliation bills require only a simple 51-vote majority as opposed to 60 votes to break a filibuster, which means they’re a way to quickly pass a proposal in the Senate.

Republicans haven’t announced what would be included in a new reconciliation bill, but a top conservative group is pushing for any package to go much further than the one President Obama already vetoed this year.

“We obviously need to do reconciliation but the bill needs to go further to make sure that we get all of Obamacare,” said Dan Holler, spokesman for Heritage Action, the political advocacy arm of the right-leaning think tank Heritage Foundation.*
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Yeah! 👍
 
AFerri48 said:
washingtonexaminer.com/conservatives-push-to-speed-up-obamacare-repeal/article/2607822

*Congressional Republicans are itching to dismantle Obamacare, but a group of conservatives say the current plan to take down key parts of the law is not quick enough, and is already pushing for alternatives that completely and immediately repeal it entirely.

Republicans in the House and Senate have pointed to a repeal bill that was approved last year through a procedural move called reconciliation as a means to quickly gut the law after Trump assumes office in January. Reconciliation bills require only a simple 51-vote majority as opposed to 60 votes to break a filibuster, which means they’re a way to quickly pass a proposal in the Senate.

Republicans haven’t announced what would be included in a new reconciliation bill, but a top conservative group is pushing for any package to go much further than the one President Obama already vetoed this year.

“We obviously need to do reconciliation but the bill needs to go further to make sure that we get all of Obamacare,” said Dan Holler, spokesman for Heritage Action, the political advocacy arm of the right-leaning think tank Heritage Foundation.*
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:extrahappy:
 
I wonder about the people who have purchased plans, Would the insurance companies have to honor their policies?
 
Because of Obama care, I am losing my current plan(that won’t be available anymore i think) and have to buy new insurance after December of this year. This puts me in a tight spot because I need an insurance that one of my doctors I see only once a year, takes. That is a rather limited list.

The only good part of Obama care us preexisting condition can not be denied.
 
This bill will also involve the defunding of Planned Parenthood, so it’s a very similar bill to the one that Obama recently vetoed.
 
ProVobis said:
But that’s the very heart of Obamacare, the main reason it was written.
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If Trump wants to keep parts of Obamacare as he stated, such as the preexisting conditions part, he is really virtually forced to keep most of it, or so I read. Of course, it is hard to tell if the view he expressed a few days ago is his current view since, as we already know, he is prone to making fast changes. I’m also not so sure that it is he who will be calling the shots regarding Obamacare, as well as other promises he made. I hear that Ryan and the Republicans, in general, want to faze out Medicare and opt for privatization. All I can say to this is, if the Republicans want to keep their seats in Congress in 2018, they had better allow seniors to hold on to their current Medicare policies. Angry seniors are the worst group to deal with: I should know!
 
meltzerboy said:
if the Republicans want to keep their seats in Congress in 2018, they had better allow seniors to hold on to their current Medicare policies. Angry seniors are the worst group to deal with: I should know!
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That was one of the ironies of the Tea Party movement: cut government, but don’t touch Medicare.

I got a telephone survey about the ACA a few days ago. It was awful. The questions were clearly written to bias my answers against the ACA. Whoever wrote that survey ought to be ashamed. Certainly no one with integrity wrote it.

Obviously, this homie don’t play that game.

So I didn’t give them the answers they wanted. On the true/false questions I answered “I don’t know,” because I haven’t studied the ACA. I have not verified for myself whether it’s good or bad.

Even had I had answers, I likely wouldn’t have given them my real opinion because I have zero tolerance for people who try to play me.
 
AFerri48 said:
washingtonexaminer.com/conservatives-push-to-speed-up-obamacare-repeal/article/2607822

*Congressional Republicans are itching to dismantle Obamacare, but a group of conservatives say the current plan to take down key parts of the law is not quick enough, and is already pushing for alternatives that completely and immediately repeal it entirely.

Republicans in the House and Senate have pointed to a repeal bill that was approved last year through a procedural move called reconciliation as a means to quickly gut the law after Trump assumes office in January. Reconciliation bills require only a simple 51-vote majority as opposed to 60 votes to break a filibuster, which means they’re a way to quickly pass a proposal in the Senate.

Republicans haven’t announced what would be included in a new reconciliation bill, but a top conservative group is pushing for any package to go much further than the one President Obama already vetoed this year.

“We obviously need to do reconciliation but the bill needs to go further to make sure that we get all of Obamacare,” said Dan Holler, spokesman for Heritage Action, the political advocacy arm of the right-leaning think tank Heritage Foundation.*
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Reconciliation can only be used to repeal parts of Obamacare that have to do with taxes and spending. Other regulations that make up Obamacare cannot be repealed this way and an attempt to repeal them would probably not get through the Senate since at least 60 votes would be needed to overcome a Democratic filibuster. Republicans also will have a problem if they cause 20 million people to lose their health care coverage and have not figured out a way to replace their Obamacare coverage. And finally, a sudden and drastic change would destabilize the insurance markets. Any repeal would have do be done gradually.
 
boldlygo said:
No…it was conceived and written to give the government more control over our lives.
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Obamacare was written to fail. It would fail in hopes of starting a movement towards single payer. So yeah, the government would eventually control healthcare for all.
 
DeniseNY said:
Obamacare was written to fail. It would fail in hopes of starting a movement towards single payer. So yeah, the government would eventually control healthcare for all.
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“Pay for” is not the same as “Control”. If you want to pay for it yourself, you can always control your own healthcare.
 
Thorolfr said:
Reconciliation can only be used to repeal parts of Obamacare that have to do with taxes and spending. Other regulations that make up Obamacare cannot be repealed this way and an attempt to repeal them would probably not get through the Senate since at least 60 votes would be needed to overcome a Democratic filibuster. Republicans also will have a problem if they cause 20 million people to lose their health care coverage and have not figured out a way to replace their Obamacare coverage. And finally, a sudden and drastic change would destabilize the insurance markets. Any repeal would have do be done gradually.
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First, for Trump especially, but also for Republicans generally, they have to repeal as much of Obamacare as they can. As you said, that won’t be all of it, but they have promised this for years and they’d better follow through. Second, they also have to come up with their own health care plan. They’ve had eight years to think about this so one would hope they have a real alternative. Finally, they need to find some way to get Democrats involved. As you pointed out, unless they can get 60 votes in the Senate - which would include 8-9 Dems, nothing can get passed.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
“Pay for” is not the same as “Control”. If you want to pay for it yourself, you can always control your own healthcare.
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So everyone except the rich are herded into a government system? How benevolent! And the Democrats wonder why they lost they election?
 
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