Contraception and Sexual Deviances

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Would it be fair to say that as contraception became normalized, various kinds of sexual deviances soon followed? In other words, was the “sexual revolution” and other ills of modern culture directly linked to the acceptance of contraception?

Though I am far from and expert, it seems to me that the Catholic position concerning sex issues is the most logically consistent. Who would beg to differ?
 
Photon said:
I’m sorry, sir, with all due respect I disagree.
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With what?

Do you believe contraception, homosexuality, bestiality, and other sexual perversions are a good thing?

Is anything objectively wrong with anything?

Or are you merely suggesting there is no link between the acceptance of contraception and certain sexual deviances?
 
Out of you list, I don’t think that beastility and harmful perversions are good.
 
I just wouldn’t do it. I don’t have a problem with homosexuality and contraceptive use though.
 
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I just wouldn’t do it. I don’t have a problem with homosexuality and contraceptive use though.
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So the basis for your rejections of “harmful perversions” and bestiality is that you wouldn’t do it? :confused: Does that mean that you feel that you alone are the standard?

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I can’t give a concrete scientific reason. All I can say is that beastiality seems very wrong. Many would agree with that, but I can’t say that contraception is wrong.

Also, ignore my spelling error in “beastiality” a few posts above. It was merely a typo.
 
Photon said:
I can’t give a concrete scientific reason. All I can say is that beastiality seems very wrong. Many would agree with that, but I can’t say that contraception is wrong.

Also, ignore my spelling error in “beastiality” a few posts above. It was merely a typo.
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A lot of things seem very wrong but that it merely subjective. Again the issue is who sets the standard for moral behavior?

If people do then which people?
 
Photon said:
You have to do what you believe is right.
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But what if you believe it is right to kill, say a whole group of people, b/c you think they are harming your country?

If morality is based only on individual conscience, than Hitler and Stalin are as moral as anyone else.

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Mirdath said:
Nope, people have been kinky as long as we’ve been around 🙂
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Yes it is true that people have been committing these sexuall deviances (contraception, bestiality, homosexual practices, ect) from early on… but I would say they are more pernicious than ever because now they are the calling card of some for freedom and basic rights… and yes the revolution of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s due to the explosion of contraception use helped to fuel this hedonistic mentality.
 
christcnection1 said:
Would it be fair to say that as contraception became normalized, various kinds of sexual deviances soon followed? In other words, was the “sexual revolution” and other ills of modern culture directly linked to the acceptance of contraception?

Who would beg to differ?
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If you mean that this is what happened sociologically, then we’d need surveys and other studies to determine the cause/effect relationship. However, it is very logical, once the rupture between the unitive and procreative natures of union occurs, to doubt a prohibition of other unitive acts.

Tune in next week for a plain English rendition!
 
Janet Smith explored OPs thesis in a recent book called something like Humanae Vitae was Right, and came pretty much to the same conclusion, that the evils Pope Paul VI predicted from sexual license fostered by the contraceptive mentality have indeed grown worse and infected society.
 
I agree with the OP. Sex has consequences - the media loves to omit the prospect of sexual consequences ( like creating life ).

Contraception removes some forms of sexual consequences ( STD’s, children ).
 
christcnection1 said:
Do you believe contraception, homosexuality, bestiality, and other sexual perversions are a good thing?

Is anything objectively wrong with anything?

Or are you merely suggesting there is no link between the acceptance of contraception and certain sexual deviances?
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I am curious, what is the basis for your statement that bestiality has increased since the widespread availability of contraception (by which I presume you mean the birth control pill, as condoms have been around a very long time in one form or another)?

I presume you must have some basis for making the statement because on the face of it, it makes little common sense. Contraception is exactly what it says-- “preventing conception.”
Are you therefore saying that you believe that people who engage in sexual intercourse with a cow or sheep or whatever are now more likely to do so because they no longer fear getting the cow or sheep pregnant? That such pregnancies were a widespread problem that previously inhibited the practice of bestiality?

Also, why would contraception be an issue in a same sex relationship? The entire basis for the objection to same sex relationships on the part of the Catholic Church is that such sexual acts are not “open to life.” If they are not so, why would contraception affect them?
 
I don’t think perversions suddenly appeared because of contraception but there is a greater acceptance of different perversions. And I do think there is some connection.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
I don’t think perversions suddenly appeared because of contraception but there is a greater acceptance of different perversions. And I do think there is some connection.
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Yes, this all I’m suggesting as well.
 
KarenNC said:
I am curious, what is the basis for your statement that bestiality has increased since the widespread availability of contraception (by which I presume you mean the birth control pill, as condoms have been around a very long time in one form or another)?

I presume you must have some basis for making the statement because on the face of it, it makes little common sense. Contraception is exactly what it says-- “preventing conception.”
Are you therefore saying that you believe that people who engage in sexual intercourse with a cow or sheep or whatever are now more likely to do so because they no longer fear getting the cow or sheep pregnant? That such pregnancies were a widespread problem that previously inhibited the practice of bestiality?

Also, why would contraception be an issue in a same sex relationship? The entire basis for the objection to same sex relationships on the part of the Catholic Church is that such sexual acts are not “open to life.” If they are not so, why would contraception affect them?
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You have mistakenly assumed I’m asking the same thing here. There are two different questions. Part one is seeking to find if they believe in an objective moral law. Question two was asking if they believed there was any link to sexual deviances, in general. This is why I used the word “or.”

My goal here wasn’t to prove there was a direct link between contraception and beastiality. It may very well be on the rise; I do not have statistics on this. If you know of any that suggest it’s on the decline, I would be open to that information; however, that was not my concern. Likewise, if you know if homosexuality, fornication, incest, adultery, and other sexual deviances are on the decline, I would be open to that information.

(Part 1) Do you believe contraception, homosexuality, bestiality, and other sexual perversions are a good thing?

Is anything objectively wrong with anything?

(Part 2) Or are you merely suggesting there is no link between the acceptance of contraception and certain sexual deviances?

KarenNC, you never gave me an answer to the following post. I spent considerable time dealing with your inquiry, but I never got a reply. 🙂

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=165280&page=7

Have a wonderful day.

Peace,
JB
 
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