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Does the belief that contraceptives used by married couples is not sinful constitute an obstinate post-baptismal denial of a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith?
yes it does.Does the belief that contraceptives used by married couples is not sinful constitute an obstinate post-baptismal denial of a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith?
Read Humanae Vitae. The Catholic Church is very clear. It is a grave matter for even mariied couples. There is evidence it can hurt the bond of marriage because you and your spouse are not truly giving to each other which includes fertility.Does the belief that contraceptives used by married couples is not sinful constitute an obstinate post-baptismal denial of a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith?
About what exactly?Theologians are in legitimate disagreement about this.
I don’t want to prevent pregnancy. You are reading things into my question that aren’t there. I need to know if the Church’s teaching on contraceptives is a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith. That is, might a person’s beliefs regarding contraceptives cause them to be a heretic and thereby be excommunicated and thereby be outside of the Church?Why would you want to prevent pregnancy anyway? Just don’t make sense to me. How is a child that evil and bad for a person.
not the Catholic theologians that are faithful to the Church.Theologians are in legitimate disagreement about this.
that was a comment made by someone who is not Catholic.I don’t want to prevent pregnancy. You are reading things into my question that aren’t there. I need to know if the Church’s teaching on contraceptives is a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith. That is, might a person’s beliefs regarding contraceptives cause them to be a heretic and thereby be excommunicated and thereby be outside of the Church?
Just Lurking wrote that theologians are in legitimate disagreement about this. Just Lurking, can you point me to arguments in favor of labeling these types as heretics?
That is directed at me? What are you saying?that was a comment made by someone who is not Catholic.
Without a doubt it is the denial of a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith.Does the belief that contraceptives used by married couples is not sinful constitute an obstinate post-baptismal denial of a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith?
About whether it is heresy to believe that it isn’t a sin. See here and work your way backwards through the footnotes and references to read the arguments.About what exactly?
Whether contraception is a sin
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Whether it is heresy to believe that it isn’t a sin.
No, theologians who follow the Sacred Tradition have no disagreement whatsoever, because they know what life is.Theologians are in legitimate disagreement about this.
See here.Just Lurking wrote that theologians are in legitimate disagreement about this. Just Lurking, can you point me to arguments in favor of labeling these types as heretics?
FWIW, it is not significant. The chances are not only small, but this rate is similar to, but slightly less than, the rate of miscarriage due to practicing NFP (i.e., restricting sex to the infertile period).Oral contraceptives result in an early term abortion a significant amount of the time. This practice is clearly way out of line.
YES.I don’t want to prevent pregnancy. You are reading things into my question that aren’t there. I need to know if the Church’s teaching on contraceptives is a truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith.
From Familiaris Consortio:Consequently, it is a serious error to think that a whole married life of otherwise normal relations can justify sexual intercourse which is deliberately contraceptive and so intrinsically wrong.
Check also the statement on the so-called “morning-after” pill by the Pontifical Academy for Life.When couples, by means of recourse to contraception, separate these two meanings that God the Creator has inscribed in the being of man and woman and in the dynamism of their sexual communion, they act as “arbiters” of the divine plan and they “manipulate” and degrade human sexuality-and with it themselves and their married partner-by altering its value of “total” self-giving. Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality.
Contraception, directly opposed to the transmission of life, betrays and falsifies the self-sacrificing love proper to marriage, “altering its value of total self-giving” and contradicting God’s design of love, in which it has been granted to married couples to participate.
The teaching is adamant. Anyone who teaches otherwise teaches heresy.The Church has always taught the intrinsic evil of contraception, that is, of every marital act intentionally rendered unfruitful. This teaching is to be held as definitive and irreformable. Contraception is gravely opposed to marital chastity; it is contrary to the good of the transmission of life (the procreative aspect of matrimony), and to the reciprocal self-giving of the spouses (the unitive aspect of matrimony); it harms true love and denies the sovereign role of God in the transmission of human life.
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Moreover, I adhere with religious submission of will and intellect to the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops enunciate when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act.