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agnes_therese
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It’s a VERY big universe. Those signals haven’t covered the whole thing, by any stretch of the imagination.
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empther
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It will take 100,000 years for our signals to reach the other side of the galaxy and another 100,000 years to get an answer.
Communication between galaxies is all but impossible because of the millions of years it takes radio waves to cross the vast gulf, and because of the feebleness of the signals.
Civilizations can also be kept separate from each other by time. There may have been a civilization in the next star over from us a hundred million years ago, but they were gone when we came down from the trees.
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Gorgias
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That is, “communication between galaxies by radio waves is all but impossible”. Who’s to say that some other technology that enables communication across light-years of distances won’t be developed at some point in time?
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Charlemagne_II
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Gorgias
**That is, “communication between galaxies by radio waves is all but impossible”. Who’s to say that some other technology that enables communication across light-years of distances won’t be developed at some point in time? **
That’s an awfully big maybe, so big I would discount it as possible before the end of our species.
**That is, “communication between galaxies by radio waves is all but impossible”. Who’s to say that some other technology that enables communication across light-years of distances won’t be developed at some point in time? **
That’s an awfully big maybe, so big I would discount it as possible before the end of our species.
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agnes_therese
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Sure, it could be developed. Did your great-grandmother foresee microwave ovens?
In the words of the immortal Fats Waller, “one never knows, do one?”
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tafan
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I think you are treading dangerously close to heresy here. THe Church teaches that Jesus has two natures, one human.Not three natures. One nature is divine and the other is a composite of soul and body.
All human beings share one nature. We would also share our nature with aliens, soul and body, although our genus, species, race, whatever you want to call it, would be different.
I see no reason why the Son of God couldn’t take up to himself several or many people from many worlds.
God makes the rules. If this is ok with God who are we to argue.
Now, it seems that the term human specifically refers to our species. I don’t think you could say that we share a human nature with some alien species.
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Alberti_Devoveo
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Technically speaking, radio waves can enable communication across light years of distances. What I suppose you mean is “…enabled near-instant communication across light-years of distances…”
However, radio waves, like all electromagnetic waves, propagate at the speed of light, c. Since c is the fastest attainable speed for any signal, then there is no possible means by which we can communicate faster.
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BRZ
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Unless of course there is a way to cheat the system so to speak. If you could find a way to get past the limitations of the speed of light in some way then it is possible. Scientists have postulated on how it may be possible to bend space time or to use a wormhole or perhaps even to move space/time itself.
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wcknight
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Compared to the speed of light, radio waves are slower than dirt… Its unlikely that our radio waves have even reached the edge of our own galaxy, not to mention the BILLIONs of other galaxies in our universe.
It takes over 7 years traveling at the speed of light to reach our nearest star. The light you see from the stars at night are millions of years old. IF you were to flash a signal at light speed today, a reply would not be possible for many hundreds of years.
As far as the OPs original question, maybe some of the other worlds never needed saving.
Maybe some of those places are where Heaven, H*ll or Purgatory are located or maybe the saving actions of Christ applied to all the other worlds simultaneously or concurrently.
It takes over 7 years traveling at the speed of light to reach our nearest star. The light you see from the stars at night are millions of years old. IF you were to flash a signal at light speed today, a reply would not be possible for many hundreds of years.
As far as the OPs original question, maybe some of the other worlds never needed saving.
Maybe some of those places are where Heaven, H*ll or Purgatory are located or maybe the saving actions of Christ applied to all the other worlds simultaneously or concurrently.
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cjforJesus
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Hehe,we came down from trees! I am no monkey,I am a sovereign child of God.
Every time someone approaches this subject,it brings to mind the absurd teachings of theosophy,the urantia book,and ascended master hooey.And if that is not bad enough now we have the Central nucleus,a UFO cult that sprang from an alleged Marian apparition.
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empther
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Just about every scientist in the world will say that. ***
Of course they might smile at you and say, “Maybe someday”, but they just don’t want to pop your balloon.
*** Except the global warming alarmists who seem to have all lost their minds.
Stick a microphone in people’s faces and they’ll usually say what they think you want to hear.
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openmind77
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I completely agree with you that the Son of God could come as another person in another world.…
I see no reason why the Son of God couldn’t take up to himself several or many people from many worlds.
God makes the rules. If this is ok with God who are we to argue.
But then that person would not be Jesus - the Son of Man would he?
Would not then this be heresy since Jesus, according to the Church, is the one and only Son?
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meinfinitist
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To make an other good story, don’t forget about a needed original sin.
No sin - No son
thank you
No sin - No son
thank you
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Porknpie
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Interesting graphic below (from this link). The dot is how far our radio waves have traveled, only 200 light years across…compared to the Milky Way at 100k light years across. We are searching for a response not from any life form but an advanced, intelligent one. If we assume for simplicity that humans have been around for 10,000 years, we’ve only had radio communication in the last 100 years or 1% of the time we’ve existed +/- with even less time in how long we’ve been listening. That means our radio waves would have to travel past 100 earths to even find one that could respond.
Big place this universe…
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empther
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From post 32…
And so, there is no reason the Divine Person can’t take up to himself several intelligent creatures from several worlds.
Jesus is not a human person but a divine person. Indeed it is only because God intends the Incarnation that the human nature of Jesus exists. He had no human father.
And so, there is no reason the Divine Person can’t take up to himself several intelligent creatures from several worlds.
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Linux
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Empther, have you been abducted by Aliens?
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openmind77
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Jesus has a human nature as well as a divine nature.
If the Son incarnates on another planet, that incarnation would not have a human nature.
If this incarnation does not have a human nature, then it is not the same as Jesus - it is another Son of God - or so it would seem.
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joe371
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Nothing more than pure speculation here: Well, either all grace within time and space, is derived from Jesus’ atoning work on the cross, on this little planet (perhaps even outside of time and space e.g. the angels who were created full of grace, like Mary - unlike the rest of us here on earth) or Jesus had to do something similar to what he did on earth. Not that God is limited; I suppose God can do whatever God wants to do…
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joe371
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Great point!!!
I doubt that Jesus is both divine and multi-natured i.e. taking on the characteristics of another life form or life forms elsewhere within time and space. Anything possible though…- Status