Could God have given a savior to another world in another galaxy?

[Porknpie]

Nothing more than pure speculation here: Well, either all grace within time and space, is derived from Jesus’ atoning work on the cross, on this little planet (perhaps even outside of time and space e.g. the angels who were created full of grace, like Mary - unlike the rest of us here on earth) or Jesus had to do something similar to what he did on earth. Not that God is limited; I suppose God can do whatever God wants to do…

I have a hard time understanding that God, who is beyond all a space and time, would have only created us on this here planet earth. My guess, speculation for sure, is that we will be amazed in heaven as to the extent of his creation, well beyond planet earth.

 

[phil19034]

Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.I doubt there is anything out in space.Scientists have been beaming signals out there for decades and no response.

You can’t go by that. The galaxy is a huge place, let alone the universe.

If there is an intelligent species 100 Light Years from Earth, they are just receiving our 1914 broadcasts now, and would have just learned about the first two months of World War I.

If they responded today, we wouldn’t hear from them until 2114.

Read this: zidbits.com/2011/07/how-far-have-radio-signals-traveled-from-earth/

Just because we haven’t detected radio signals doesn’t mean no one is out there.

 

[Paleocon]

Does it make sense that they too are saved, but by a Savior from a planet they’ve never heard of? Is that fair to them?

There are no races of intelligent creatures in other galaxies. The idea that there are would be the heresy of antipodeanism.

God could have created such a race and interacted with them, but he did not.

 

[phil19034]

There are no races of intelligent creatures in other galaxies. The idea that there are would be the heresy of antipodeanism.

God could have created such a race and interacted with them, but he did not.

God only reveled to us what we Humans need for salvation. God did not publicly revel the true nature of Heaven, the universe, etc. to us. However, He does slowly revel these truths to us as we grow in wisdom and knowledge; when we are ready for the next bit of truth.

Jesus is the only “fully human, fully God” Son of God. Jesus Christ is the Son of Man. Perhaps there are multiple Heaven’s, one for each species in the universe. Or perhaps the 2nd Person in the Trinity was incarnated on every planet which had original sin? Perhaps on some planets the devil wins and on others 2nd Person wins?

On Vulcan, the 2nd Person of the Trinity would be “fully Vulcan and fully God,” but would not share in the human nature of Christ. His nature would be fully alien and fully God; but still God. In a way (IF GOD WANTED TO DO THIS), the 2nd Person of the Trinity could have been Incarnated and died on millions of different worlds, for millions of different creations.

Considering the idea that aliens might exist isn’t heresy. Heresy would be thinking that the existence of aliens negates or somehow invalidates the Church.

God is not limited, only we are.

The universe can be teaming with life, or we might be it. Either way, it’s God’s will. And either way, we will NEVER know for sure until/if we meet an alien. No matter what we think, we are not God. And the scriptures do not address the subject one way or another. The scriptures are only focused on Human salvation.

Personally, I just think since God is Love, and since creation was an act of Love by God, that He would want to keep creating life due to His infinite love. Even the Vatican has studied the theological impactions and questions of extraterrestrial life.

One Catholic priest was even ask if he would baptize an alien, and the priest replied with “yes, if he/she asked me to.”

What’s truly awesome about being Catholic is that no matter what happens in science, every discovery we make only further illustrates the Awesome Power of God. Our Faith and science will never truly be in conflict because The Truth is God’s Truth.

 

[Paleocon]

God only reveled to us what we Humans need for salvation. God did not publicly revel the true nature of Heaven, the universe, etc. to us. However, He does slowly revel these truths to us as we grow in wisdom and knowledge; when we are ready for the next bit of truth.

Jesus is the only “fully human, fully God” Son of God. Jesus Christ is the Son of Man. Perhaps there are multiple Heaven’s, one for each species in the universe. Or perhaps the 2nd Person in the Trinity was incarnated on every planet which had original sin? Perhaps on some planets the devil wins and on others 2nd Person wins?

On Vulcan, the 2nd Person of the Trinity would be “fully Vulcan and fully God,” but would not share in the human nature of Christ. His nature would be fully alien and fully God; but still God. In a way (IF GOD WANTED TO DO THIS), the 2nd Person of the Trinity could have been Incarnated and died on millions of different worlds, for millions of different creations.

Considering the idea that aliens might exist isn’t heresy. Heresy would be thinking that the existence of aliens negates or somehow invalidates the Church.

God is not limited, only we are.

The universe can be teaming with life, or we might be it. Either way, it’s God’s will. And either way, we will NEVER know for sure until/if we meet an alien. No matter what we think, we are not God. And the scriptures do not address the subject one way or another. The scriptures are only focused on Human salvation.

Personally, I just think since God is Love, and since creation was an act of Love by God, that He would want to keep creating life due to His infinite love. Even the Vatican has studied the theological impactions and questions of extraterrestrial life.

One Catholic priest was even ask if he would baptize an alien, and the priest replied with “yes, if he/she asked me to.”

What’s truly awesome about being Catholic is that no matter what happens in science, every discovery we make only further illustrates the Awesome Power of God. Our Faith and science will never truly be in conflict because The Truth is God’s Truth.

Please look up antipodeanism.

 

[phil19034]

Please look up antipodeanism.

The heresy you mention refers to the believe that some human life exists which did not come from Adam and Eve. Also, I never said that I’m taking it on Faith that God created alien life. I’m saying we don’t know. The Bible only speaks to use about human creation, salvation, redemption, apocalypse, etc. It doesn’t even attempt to address the full nature of Heaven. If God did or did not create other life is His business. We will never know in this life, unless aliens contact us before we die.

Read this: catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm

As FYI - I believe Pope Benedict XVI supported this Vatican priest.

 

[Kurisu35712]

I have read before, about angels, though I can’t remember where (feels like I say that a lot), that each angel is its own species. Something along those lines. I interpreted it as each angel is its own unique and individual being, though related to the other angels, particularly within each choir. Which would also be the reason that some angels fell while many others did not. In that case, each being its own species would entail that each would be individually capable of accepting or rejecting God, independent of any other angel’s choice. Whereas humans are all a singular species, and one race, with individual body/souls. We are each individuals but are all humans and are all interconnected. As a result, when the first husband and wife fell, it follows that all of their children were born in a fallen state, hence Original Sin. Among other things, we don’t have the knowledge and understanding that angels have, so being bound in time enables us to seek forgiveness and return to communion with God. An angel understands their relationship with God from the beginning of their existence fully, and thus if they were to commit a mortal sin, like Satan, that is binding on them, as they are not mortal to repent of it.

Long story short, if there are aliens, I imagine they would be more similar to an angel than a human, possessing a more complete supernatural intellect and understanding of God. Also probably not requiring salvation, since they likely wouldn’t have fallen to begin with. All speculation of course. And all creation apparently suffered a fall at the hands of humans’ Original Sin.

If they were like humans though, I would imagine they would essentially be “human” in a sense. We are made in the image and likeness of God in that we possess free will, intellect, creativity, immortality (regarding our souls), and the capacity for love and mercy. We also possess a joined body and soul. I imagine an alien could very well be “human” without looking like we do, though still possess those other characteristics. Such beings would be human in essence, if not in apparent biology. As a result, Jesus’ Passion would have applied to them as well.

So many sci-fi ideas coming from this thread. Someone should write a book.

 

[Paleocon]

The heresy you mention refers to the believe that some human life exists which did not come from Adam and Eve. Also, I never said that I’m taking it on Faith that God created alien life. I’m saying we don’t know. The Bible only speaks to use about human creation, salvation, redemption, apocalypse, etc. It doesn’t even attempt to address the full nature of Heaven. If God did or did not create other life is His business. We will never know in this life, unless aliens contact us before we die.

Read this: catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm

As FYI - I believe Pope Benedict XVI supported this Vatican priest.

Adhering to a heresy as a matter of faith is not required for it to be heretical. Unless you’re suggesting that aliens are somehow descended from Adam and Eve.

 

[joe371]

I have a hard time understanding that God, who is beyond all a space and time, would have only created us on this here planet earth. My guess, speculation for sure, is that we will be amazed in heaven as to the extent of his creation, well beyond planet earth.

 

[phil19034]

Adhering to a heresy as a matter of faith is not required for it to be heretical. Unless you’re suggesting that aliens are somehow descended from Adam and Eve.

Yes, but as I said, that Heresy does not deal with ETs. Only humans. It deals with the notion that some humans didn’t come from Adam and Eve. It has nothing to do with aliens. The Church has no teaching regarding aliens. Furthermore, the Church cannot deem it heresy because if it comes true, then there is a conflict with Truth.

Heresy is saying that angels, Christ, etc are aliens. Also, it could be considered heresy to blindly believe in aliens without proof, the same way belief that the Earth revolved around the Sun was. But it’s doubtful that the Church will put itself in that position again.