Could we run back-room clinics (pretending to use them as the bishop's mansion)) if our hospitals are forced to do population control functions or ref

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I would hope we could be safe as being a private institution, from government controls. Maybe this nightmare won’t happen.
Still, we need to be as wise as serpents and…, doing like what Pope St. Pius 12th did with the Jews–clandestine stuff, if the government does shove its liberal beliefs down our throats.
 
That’s the irony that FOCA could present. Many abortion supporters claim that abortion legalization only made it possible for abortions to stop being “back alley operations,” and yet FOCA could drive many legitimate doctors, who refuse to perform abortions or learn how, to “back alley operations.”
 
Where’s the pro-choice in what his administration is going to do? They say we neglect wars and executions, but they don’t give us choice or privacy, just those who want perverse help. Why can’t women just go to places where they can get abortions and contraception and not be able to go everywhere and expect them?
 
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I would hope we could be safe as being a private institution, from government controls. Maybe this nightmare won’t happen.
Still, we need to be as wise as serpents and…, doing like what Pope St. Pius 12th did with the Jews–clandestine stuff, if the government does shove its liberal beliefs down our throats.
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That’s the problem: being a private institution won’t matter, because neither doctors nor nurses nor hospitals/clinics/any medical center won’t be able to get a license to practice if they do not follow FOCA.

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What if they have a license already? He/she could moonlight as a 100% Catholic, if he/she gives up his/her practice in mainstream places (they’d better buy basic equipment now. If devout Catholics go to one anyway, whether the doctor loses it, because of defiance or not, he/she’ll get business anyway. There’d probably be some clandestine insurance provider somewhere.
 
First of all, my guess (hope) would be that there would be some states that resist these draconian tactics. The most immediate issue would be federal funding. Eventually there is tax exemption to face but once that pandora’s box is opened, it is all Churches, not just Catholic ones that are threatened so it’s not an easy loss.

Ultimately, there has to be some civil disobedience - a line drawn in the sand.

Catholics institutions and Catholic medical professionals, for example, could get licensed in one area but offer care in another. For example, a pediatrician could function as a family practitioner.

As for credentials, Catholic universities could simply credential professionals themselves rather than submit to the state. This would save the public from risk of frauds posing as doctors/nurses. The states wouldn’t like it but in most states, they aren’t likely to take on the Church if it is without tax handcuffs.
 
In my view, this law would not pass Constitutional muster. The problem is, after the law passes, someone will have to charged with violating it before it can start going up the judicial chain to determine its constitutionality. Whether or not implementation can be held until the courts have ruled is the question.

There’s going to need to be someone who is willing to be arrested (court costs and lawyers fees), willing to go through the trial, willing to lose (and suffer jail time), willing to go through the appeal process, etc. ALL of these things requiring court costs and lawyers fees to be paid. At any point the courts could revoke any hold on implementation, even if the decision is being appealed. I’m thinking at least 2 years and probably closer to 3 before the question is resolved one way or another.

Buckle your seat belts. It’s going to be a bumpy ride.

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