Couple who had sex in confessional during Mass apologise

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…well, at least they admitted they were wrong and asked for forgiveness:shrug: But if i was a regular attender at that cathedral I don’t think I could ever go to confession at that specific church again.
 
I think I’m going to be sick. I would be willing to make a sizeable bet that at least one of the couple is a former Catholic who had some gripe against the Church and was determined to disrespect it :mad:

What was the confessional doing open/unlocked anyway?
 
And they are in their early '30s, too. Time to grow up! Well, at least they have taken the first steps to maturity by admitting what they did was unacceptable and asking for forgiveness.
 
I think this couple may also have learned NOT TO DRINK SO MUCH!
 
Oh that’s nice. They said they were sorry. All is well.

I’m at a loss for words…
 
Unless we have a reason to discuss this because it will help them or others, we should refrain from discussing this as it borders on gossip. People sin yes and grave matters all the time sadly, but we do not need to post it on computers and discuss it. Yes it is shocking and sad. Thankfully they were sorry from what we can tell.
 
LittleOne1 said:
Unless we have a reason to discuss this because it will help them or others, we should refrain from discussing this as it borders on gossip. People sin yes and grave matters all the time sadly, but we do not need to post it on computers and discuss it. Yes it is shocking and sad. Thankfully they were sorry from what we can tell.
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It’s news, not gossip.

It was in “the news.”

is it gossip to talk about the Iraq War? Is it gossip to discuss a homily a Priest gave?

Stories like this can remind people that Satan is alive and well in the world.
 
He_Man said:
It’s news, not gossip.

It was in “the news.”

is it gossip to talk about the Iraq War? Is it gossip to discuss a homily a Priest gave?

Stories like this can remind people that Satan is alive and well in the world.
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Most of the things that Brittney Spears does or has had happened to her is called “news,” but that’s gossip.
  1. Not gossip to talk about the Iraq War, generally speaking.
  2. Depends. If it’s done to edify the listener, no. It’s it’s to complain about the orthodoxy or the poor homily skills of the Priest, yes.
I could have lived without knowing about this incident. Until eternity.

So, yes, it’s gossip, even if MSM calls it news. And yes, I’ve gossiped, which is why I probably clicked on this thread in the first place.
 
reginacaeli said:
Most of the things that Brittney Spears does or has had happened to her is called “news,” but that’s gossip.
  1. Not gossip to talk about the Iraq War, generally speaking.
  2. Depends. If it’s done to edify the listener, no. It’s it’s to complain about the orthodoxy or the poor homily skills of the Priest, yes.
I could have lived without knowing about this incident. Until eternity.

So, yes, it’s gossip, even if MSM calls it news. And yes, I’ve gossiped, which is why I probably clicked on this thread in the first place.
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I guess we all have different definitions of gossip.

I contend that talking about the Priest scandal or the Iraq war could just as easily be gossip. And again, this sort of thing serves as a reminder to people who doubt the world we live in.

It isn’t as though we asked for vivid details, but it happened was reported. is it gossip say that Tim Russert died? technically, that has no effect on my life.
 
I love their quote “we’re atheists, for us having sex in a church is the same as anywhere else”. So do they find it acceptable to have sex in a closet or bathroom of an elementary school while classes are in session? Or under the chairs in parliament while they’re in session? It’s not about religious beliefs (or lack thereof), it’s about decorum and respect for others. Having sex in a church (any church, or synogogue, mosque, temple, any house of worship) is unacceptable, but during mass (or any services) is even more vile. They can blame their drunkeness, but I don’t buy it, they did this on purpose. When they stumbled in, didn’t they see mass going on?

In Christ,

Ellen
 
ALLGIRLS said:
I love their quote “we’re atheists, for us having sex in a church is the same as anywhere else”. So do they find it acceptable to have sex in a closet or bathroom of an elementary school while classes are in session? Or under the chairs in parliament while they’re in session? It’s not about religious beliefs (or lack thereof), it’s about decorum and respect for others. Having sex in a church (any church, or synogogue, mosque, temple, any house of worship) is unacceptable, but during mass (or any services) is even more vile. They can blame their drunkeness, but I don’t buy it, they did this on purpose. When they stumbled in, didn’t they see mass going on?

In Christ,

Ellen
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Just because someone is an atheist does not mean they should feel it is acceptable to defame someone’s religious articles.

I am Jewish but I would never stoop so low as to desecrate a religious article belonging to someone else’s religion. I might not believe in it, but neither do I feel any need to defame it.

For example, a Buddhist friend once gave me a beautiful mala bead necklace. I thanked him, and saved it until I could find another Buddhist to gift it to.

I also had a friend years ago who presented me with a hand-carved wooden Catholic rosary, made by nuns in the Holy Land (she said she was giving it to me because I’m Jewish and the rosary was made in Israel…but the feeling I got is she hoped it would convert me. 🙂 I kept them until I found a religious Catholic in my former neighborhood who gladly accepted it as a gift.

There is never any need to desecrate something of another person’s religious faith!
 
Gossip is the discussion of peoples faults or failings in a way to find entertainment ourselves or simply point out the faults of others (true or not) that is unecessary. Like another poster said, we could have been fine without knowing about this incident. The Iraq War is the discussion of important events that directly affect us and our country and others. That is not gossip. The same goes for the priest scandal because we have a right to know about this issue that affects us all and our Church. The personal sins of others in this case do not need to be discussed because having known this information does nothing to help us or them. It is simply to look at and be upset about what they did. It in no way is edifying to us, and certainly only propels a bad image that hopefully these two would try to change. Would you like it if everyone posted your sins on this website?
Response number five gives a good definition of this:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=6183
The only time it is permitted to harm the good name of others is either that it will help others (like revealing a truth about bad individual so another won’t consider dating them) or this mentioning helps the individuals (like discussing something a priest did that he shouldn’t do with the bishop) who did this (and if you want others to pray, you can just mention so and so needs prayers and not bring up the issue).
He_Man said:
I guess we all have different definitions of gossip.

I contend that talking about the Priest scandal or the Iraq war could just as easily be gossip. And again, this sort of thing serves as a reminder to people who doubt the world we live in.

It isn’t as though we asked for vivid details, but it happened was reported. is it gossip say that Tim Russert died? technically, that has no effect on my life.
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LittleOne1 said:
The only time it is permitted to harm the good name of others is either that it will help others (like revealing a truth about bad individual so another won’t consider dating them) or this mentioning helps the individuals (like discussing something a priest did that he shouldn’t do with the bishop) who did this (and if you want others to pray, you can just mention so and so needs prayers and not bring up the issue).
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What exactly are the “good” names of the couple? The only name mentioned in the article is that of the bishop.
 
LittleOne1 said:
Gossip is the discussion of peoples faults or failings in a way to find entertainment ourselves or simply point out the faults of others (true or not) that is unecessary. Like another poster said, we could have been fine without knowing about this incident. The Iraq War is the discussion of important events that directly affect us and our country and others. That is not gossip. The same goes for the priest scandal because we have a right to know about this issue that affects us all and our Church. The personal sins of others in this case do not need to be discussed because having known this information does nothing to help us or them. It is simply to look at and be upset about what they did. It in no way is edifying to us, and certainly only propels a bad image that hopefully these two would try to change. Would you like it if everyone posted your sins on this website?
Response number five gives a good definition of this:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=6183
The only time it is permitted to harm the good name of others is either that it will help others (like revealing a truth about bad individual so another won’t consider dating them) or this mentioning helps the individuals (like discussing something a priest did that he shouldn’t do with the bishop) who did this (and if you want others to pray, you can just mention so and so needs prayers and not bring up the issue).
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Nobody was caught in “private”. They were caught having sex in public, and based on the fact that they were arrested, I think is a crime in Italy. This is a matter of public record. The couples names were not even mentioned.
 
I’m just glad that they are repentant. Yes, what they did was wrong but if God forgives them then so do I.
 
Rather than consciously engaging in gossip, I think that the OP and all who posted on this thread were so aghast at what happened that we just had to say something.

As Sepharad said, she’s not even Christian and she thinks it was disgusting and sacriligious.

Maybe the Lord inspired the OP to start this thread because He wants us to pray for this couple. Who knows how our prayers can help them give up such extreme drunkeness and disrespect? Who knows if their forgiveness by the Bishop for such an act might lead them to investigate a faith which, and a God who, can forgive so heinous an action by two drunken athiests?

:gopray:
 
GemmaRose said:
Rather than consciously engaging in gossip, I think that the OP and all who posted on this thread were so aghast at what happened that we just had to say something.

As Sepharad said, she’s not even Christian and she thinks it was disgusting and sacriligious.

Maybe the Lord inspired the OP to start this thread because He wants us to pray for this couple. Who knows how our prayers can help them give up such extreme drunkeness and disrespect? Who knows if their forgiveness by the Bishop for such an act might lead them to investigate a faith which, and a God who, can forgive so heinous an action by two drunken athiests?

:gopray:
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You’re right. Our prayers could have a big impact on these two Atheists. We must pray for them. :signofcross: :gopray2:
 
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