Cousin is pregnant and unmarried

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Does anyone have some advice I could pass along to my 34 year old unmarried, Catholic cousin who just found she is due in September? The father is one of my best friends. In fact, I introduced them to each other about six years ago. He has always wanted more in their relationship and she has wanted to remain friends. He now wants to marry her and she doesn’t at this point. He is not Catholic. He at least wants to move into the same condo as her. Any good books for her to read? What is the right thing for her to do?
 
A baby is not a valid foundation for a marriage, so if your cousin doesn’t feel that this is “the man”, then she shouldn’t marry him. In fact, isn’t pregnancy often used as evidence for “lack of consent” when seeking an annulment?

She also should not deny the child of his father. The dad should have full visitation, if not custody.
 
Get married to the father of her child!!!
The Church doesn’t teach that having a baby is a good enough reason to commit to marriage. A baby isn’t going to make this woman love the father of her child nor is it the basis for a good marriage. She has to want to marry him of her own free will.

I applaud the man in all this, though. How refreshing to hear of a man who wants to “do the right thing” by the mother of his child these days. But, if she doesn’t want to marry him, they shouldn’t get married just to please convention.
 
Get married to the father of her child!!!
I disagree.

If she does not love this man, and as the OP says, wasn’t ever real interested in their relationship being more than friends, why should she marry him? While I DO believe the optimal situation for a child is to be raised in a family with a father and a mother who are recieving the sacramental graces of marriage, this is not always possible.

Marriage is not to be taken lightly, esp. in a situation like this. I know good and holy priests who will delay the sacrament of marriage for a couple who have become pregnant out of wedlock to be sure that they they have the proper intentions.

I would say to the OP, pray for your cousin and offer to help/support her, and encourage her to go to confession. Maybe marriage to this man is something she should discern, but but she shouldn’t feel pressured into a marriage she doesn’t want. I’m not sure about other resources/books, but perhaps other posters will have more on that angle.
 
Poor child. Sin is a stain that hurts others as well. Whatever they do virtuous lives from this point on would be advisable.
 
Thank you all. If you don’t mind, would you say a quick prayer for her also? I’ve recited the Rosary for her and lifted up those intentions so that God may guide her, give her strength, courage, perseverance and endurance for her suffering and that this situation will ultimately bring her closer to God and his Church.
 
I would encourage her to follow her own feelings on marriage. If she got married solely due to the baby, their marriage would not be based on love, but rather responsibility. Although that is a noble trait, it is not enough to sustain a couple through the many difficult times that come about in a relationship.

Ideally, marriage comes first, and then a baby. However, in today’s world, that just doesn’t always happen in that order anymore. She has still been blessed with this child, as has the father, and I hope that they can someday see it that way.

I agree, though, that the father should be able to fully participate in the child’s life. Hopefully, their friendship will help them through this.

Your friend, the father and the baby are all in my prayers.

God bless!

Trish
 
I would encourage her to follow her own feelings on marriage. If she got married solely due to the baby, their marriage would not be based on love, but rather responsibility. Although that is a noble trait, it is not enough to sustain a couple through the many difficult times that come about in a relationship.
I probably would not encourage her to follow her feelings; it was following her feelings that was at least partially responsible for the current situation.

Actually, I know of several marriages that started out in just this way, and that worked out fine. Responsibility was accepted and acted upon, and love (feelings of love) grew over time. (Actually, love was there from the start, since love is willing what is best for the partner. But feelings of love took time. Actions of love resulted in feelings of love.)
 
she’s 34 years old and a grown woman. Don’t intervene (or inject yourself into the situation) at all unless she personally asks you to. I know it’s hard but sometimes you just have to MYOB. Pray all you want, of course; I’m sure she needs it.
 
she’s 34 years old and a grown woman. Don’t intervene (or inject yourself into the situation) at all unless she personally asks you to. I know it’s hard but sometimes you just have to MYOB. Pray all you want, of course; I’m sure she needs it.
This is probably good advice, to a point.

Be sure to support her in seeing her pregnancy through. You don’t want her to become desperate enough to consider abortion.

She should not marry him just for the baby’s sake. But, if she has legitimate reasons for wanting to marry him, that’s good for all concerned.

He should not move in if they are not married.

Also, if she does not want to marry him, and she does ask for your advice, you might gently suggest adoption, so the child can grow up in a two-parent home. Since he wants to be involved, that might require his consent, but that also depends on the laws in your state, I imagine.
 
I stand by my response. The question was “What is the right thing for her to do?” The right thing is to marry the father of the child and live a good and holy life. There are reasons why apparently she may choose not to do the right thing. But choosing not to do the right thing is what got a 34 year old woman pregnant by a man who she just wants to be friends with.

Marriage means subordinating your own selfish interests for your spouse and for the good of the marriage. Ideally, marriage provides the healthy spousal relationship that then evolves into healthy parental relationships where the parents subordinate their selfish interests for the benefit of the child. I am a Catholic and I believe that the best thing for children is to have loving married parents.

I think the best thing for this soon-to-be-mother is to do what is best for her child. Ideally, that would be to marry the child’s father and provide the best family possible for the child and her own well-being…
 
Thank you all. If you don’t mind, would you say a quick prayer for her also? I’ve recited the Rosary for her and lifted up those intentions so that God may guide her, give her strength, courage, perseverance and endurance for her suffering and that this situation will ultimately bring her closer to God and his Church.
Hi, will do.

Let your cousin and friend know that you want to help them in any way you can - you’ll know the best way you can do this. If you can, encourage them that, although this unexpected pregnancy is the result of choices they probably regret, there is, like you say, the opportunity for great grace and love. God has created this baby and loves it, as he does its mother and father. Remind your cousin that she is still welcome in the Church, that the Sacrament of Penance is available - strange that we should have to remind ourselves of that! Sometimes people feel that they can’t return to church when something like this has happened, and that’s simply not true.

As someone else said, many wonderful marriages have come out of a similar situation - I have friends who were “unplanned pregnancies” and their parents got married and years later have beautiful marriages and families. So it may be that your cousin and friend getting married is an option, or even the best option. Only they will know I guess. They certainly shouldn’t rush into it.

A difficulty might be that, now she is pregnant, they continue sleeping together, feeling maybe that they shouldn’t but that “it doesn’t matter so much now.” I have no idea if this is what will happen with these two particular people, but it does happen. You could just encourage them to be honest with themselves and each other and strive to be chaste. A book recommendation there could be “Good News for Sex and Marriage” by Christopher West - I don’t know if it would help or not. Depends on the person.

It sounds like you’re on the right track, and know what she needs. Let her know that God is very much with her, and has plans for her, for a “future full of hope” (Jeremiah 29.11), and that she’ll persevere.
God bless.
 
I stand by my response. The question was “What is the right thing for her to do?” The right thing is to marry the father of the child and live a good and holy life. There are reasons why apparently she may choose not to do the right thing. But choosing not to do the right thing is what got a 34 year old woman pregnant by a man who she just wants to be friends with.

Marriage means subordinating your own selfish interests for your spouse and for the good of the marriage. Ideally, marriage provides the healthy spousal relationship that then evolves into healthy parental relationships where the parents subordinate their selfish interests for the benefit of the child. I am a Catholic and I believe that the best thing for children is to have loving married parents.

I think the best thing for this soon-to-be-mother is to do what is best for her child. Ideally, that would be to marry the child’s father and provide the best family possible for the child and her own well-being…
I understand your sentiments, but we’re talking about a non-Catholic man who (from the context) seems to have pressured the woman into sex. It sounds like perhaps this man might not be the best choice for a spouse and father. If she marries him, she’ll be having more kids, all of whom will have no father to guide them in the Faith, even if they do have a man in the house.

It’s sad when a person has extramarital relations. But such a person shouldn’t just blindly marry the partner when a pregnancy results. This woman is indeed called to consider marrying this guy, but she should only do so if he could be a good husband and father. Under Church teaching she is under absolutely no obligation to marry him if she believes he would be an unfit spouse or father. In fact, she has the responsibility to choose a spouse who will help raise the children in the Faith and with good morals… so in my book, his non-Catholic state would be a deal-breaker, in addition to the fact that he wants to shack up.

It’s great when marriages work out after a child is conceived between the pair, out of wedlock… but as far as I know, just as often they do not work out. Anecdotal evidence aside, I agree that this is a decision that needs to be with heavy consideration for the best interests of the child. I just also want to emphasize that a bad father is no better than no father at all… so “the right thing to do” really depends on the individuals involved.

Plus, she obviously already thinks there’s something amiss there, or she would be officially dating him. I agree with JimG that she shouldn’t just be following her feelings. But sometimes our intuition informs us of a person’s character before our mind can logically arrive at the same conclusions.

OP: if this woman is a serious Catholic who made a mistake and has repented, you might discuss Theology of the Body with her, or provide her with a book on the subject. If she is just a casual/cultural Catholic, you’re going to have a harder time getting through to her… but it’s worth a try.

I think what you’re looking to communicate to her is that you care about her and want to see her providing the best example and environment possible for her child (as well as respecting her own body by living chastely). She’ll have to evaluate herself whether that means marrying the father or not. I’ll join you in praying for wisdom and guidance for your cousin.
 
The only other advice I’d give to you is this…when your family members start laying the pressure on her to marry him, be vocal about supporting her decission and reminding them that the Church teaches that one is to not marry for the sole reason of the child having both parents full time. She’ll eventually get annoyed with your family if they keep applying the pressure.

I didn’t have a vocal ally in my family, everyone kept asking and pressuring about marriage (and still are) even if it were a cival ceremony. I am thankful that I didn’t give in, thankful that we didn’t live together after the first two months of our dd’s life (I needed the help at nights) and now, as he’s in the annulment process, I truly am at peace with the reality that he may or may not recieve a decree of nullity and I’d be okay b/c he’d still be in our dd’s life as actively as he has been for all of her life. Heck, my dd’s dad spends more time with her than my dad spent with me before and after my parents divorced.

Also, she may want to see the parish priest about spiritual direction. When I was in your cousin’s situation, my priest quickly reminded me that marriage IS a vocation and MUST be discerned. If one is called to marriage then one must discern who they are to marry (the one they’re dating, or the one they have a child with may not be the one they are called to marry).
 
I understand your sentiments, but we’re talking about a non-Catholic man who (from the context) seems to have pressured the woman into sex. It sounds like perhaps this man might not be the best choice for a spouse and father. If she marries him, she’ll be having more kids, all of whom will have no father to guide them in the Faith, even if they do have a man in the house.
I agree that they should not marry solely because she is pregnant. However, the mother now has to deal with the fact that, even if he may not be the best choice for a father, he is one. I just want to point out that that is a reality that the mother is going to have to deal with. I will definitely pray for the mother, the father, and the baby. May the parents be given the grace to raise the little one in the Faith, and may all turn out in the best way possible for the baby.

Things get so complicated when we don’t follow God’s advice. 😦
 
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