Cradle catholics: why do you think other cradle catholics aren't well catechized?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I think people are sufficiently catechized. They’re not necessarily well evangelized.
 
Do you mean, what evidence does one use to determine their opinion that other Catholics aren’t well-catechized? Or do you mean, what caused the poor catechism?
 
If you believe cradle catholics aren’t well catechized why do you think that is the case? Are parents not teaching their kids the faith? Or…?
 
Not all cradle Catholics are not well catechized I have met several very well Catechized Catholics however there brother has turned away from the church sometimes it comes down to personal opinion and the way they think and feel.
 
Sometimes, parents think just sending their kids to Catholic schools or religious ed is enough.

A lot of it also comes from people who come from Catholic cultures where there wasn’t an emphasis on apologetics because everyone around them was Catholic. I see a lot of that among my Polish relatives. The older ones are pretty devout, the ones raised in the US not so much.
 
Guest1 said:
If you believe cradle catholics aren’t well catechized why do you think that is the case? Are parents not teaching their kids the faith? Or…?
Click to expand...
I don’t know about anywhere else but here we’ve had little to no catechesis for 2 decades - 6 classes for combined First Communion and Confirmation that didn’t teach much of anything doesn’t count. Now some of those children are in their mid 20s and raising their own kids. They can’t teach them what they never learned.

Our diocese recently decreed that First Communion must be preceded by 2 years of catechesis, as must Confirmation. That’s all well and good, but without properly prepared catechists (and anyone who volunteers can be a catechist) it’s the blind leading the blind. Not to mention that First Communion is at age 7, Confirmation not before at least age 12 so you’ve got a good 3 year gap with nothing offered.

We had a recent class of confirmands who had to be taught the basic prayers. They never heard them at home and many weren’t in church often enough to have retained the Our Father.
 
Last edited:
redbetta said:
Sometimes, parents think just sending their kids to Catholic schools or religious ed is enough.
Click to expand...
sending a child to a catholic school is not enough and a lot of parents know this. sometimes you have to invite God into your home and teach your children all you can, take them to mass when possible ( not just on Sundays) and let your children learn and understand and have a healthy relationship with God
Other parents may not know where to start ( like my parents) my father is catholic my mother isn’t even a Christian ( my mother would also not sign the piece of paper for me to attend RE class at school)
however they loved each other I am fortunate to have been able to find Catholicism later in life when I was old enough to make my own decisions.
 
Guest1 said:
And you’re in usa? ( you don’t have to answer that)
Click to expand...
No, I’m in a rather isolated community in Canada. We had Catholic schools until 20 years ago when our province voted to stop offering denominational education – we had no public schools, they were all linked to religion, whether Catholic, Anglican and other mainstream denominations, Salvation Army, or Pentecostal – and go with schools divided along French/English linguistic lines.
 
In broad strokes, like this:

First, there was an over emphasis on catechism over spirituality (ie rules).

Then the pendulum swung in the other direction and de-emphasized rules in favor of being “nice “ person.

Then, it perpetuated
 
We probably were, at least early on. Younger people than I, however, often were not since catechesis became a sort of free-for-all in some dioceses after the 60s or so. But either way a person has to begin to want to know for themselves at some point. Catechesis teaches us about God, but we must exercise a bit of faith and hope to begin to seek Him for ourselves-and seek we must in order to come to truly begin to know Him.

Catechesis only presents a us with the offer, the possibility of God’s existence; we must take it from there. I actually left the Church as a teenager, unsure if she spoke the truth or not but doubting her mainly, only to find out much later that she was right along after all, to my surprise, after a fairly long journey.
 
Because I teach and they definitely aren’t.

I had a Catholic in one class say that they’d never heard Jesus was God.
 
Catechized is a thing in the states that its not here in Australia. We did things a little differently and still do not have paid Diocesan employees whose job it is to run catechism programs (not talking of RCIA) like you do in the states.

When Aus was settled it was the job of religious to teach people about God. And if more were needed, they came out from UK and Europe. They started schools and people were basically taught between school and Mass and Sunday Schools ( Sunday school was and still is very popular if non Catholic denominations, parents go to the church service and kids go to the sunday school. )

So I must ask what you mean by not well catechised?
 
Last edited:
because the “new evangelism” has failed (even “cradle catholics”)

the church heirarchy’s agenda is : covering up scandal, open borders, global warming & accommodating radical islam
 
Last edited:
brian_custer said:
because the “new evangelism” has failed (even “cradle catholics”)

the church heirarchy’s agenda is : covering up scandal, open borders, global warming & accommodating radical islam
Click to expand...
Another dissatisfied customer.

If you don’t like it the way it is, get involved and start advocating change, but before you do, best you dot your i and cross your t on what Jesus taught and what the church, of which you are part of as the Body of the Church, promotes.

Its so easy to sit back and just pour petrol over the whole thing, words are just words,

You are called to action!
 
In all fairness, Catholic theology is as deep and wide as the ocean. Much of protestant theology is about as deep and wide as a thimble.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top