Cradles. Compare your catholic childhood to now

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This is beautiful I agree.
My question would be, do you feel like singing along with it?
I don’t. It is more a performance.
I think we need to get away from performance music at Mass. The person or persons doing Music ministry music that encourages participation in the congregation. We should be able to hear the whole congregation sing, not just the music ministry.
Some music ministries shine the light on themselves instead of God.
 
Are these Audrey Assad and Matt Mahar people Catholic or generic Contemporary Christian?
 
This is beautiful I agree.
My question would be, do you feel like singing along with it?
I don’t. It is more a performance.
I think we need to get away from performance music at Mass. The person or persons doing Music ministry music that encourages participation in the congregation. We should be able to hear the whole congregation sing, not just the music ministry.
Some music ministries shine the light on themselves instead of God.
You’re honestly saying that you “sing along” with polophony?
 
OP – I wish you luck with this topic. My memories are similar to yours but it’s pointless to write about them here because CAF is not conducive to this type of discussion.
That is a shame I think. If CAF is just about who knows more than the other, about their faith and apologetics, I find that rather limited. Competitive rather than fellowship.
 
The smell of Benediction incense, ringing the bells at the right time as an altar boy, going to the Confession Box once a week, the feeling of release after Confession, living across the road from Church, going to a Catholic School, fish and chips every Friday, my grandparents insisting on us saying the Rosary when they visited, enthusiastic Marist Brothers passing on their faith, an all boys school. And the absolutely gorgeous organ hymns at Mass. In my spare time now, I try to play fingerstyle guitar versions of beautiful hymns like Seek Oh seek the Lord
Too many prawns today mate? Being Australia Day

My Cathedral and Diocese practices the Post Vat 11 changes.

Guess what! We have Benediction with incense, bell ringing and a big gong type thing in one Church, we have Confession weekly. I was there just this morning. We can live across from Church, eat fish n chips, say the Rosary, say hi to Monks and brothers, sing gorgeous hymns with a real pipe organ,

What’s changed? Oh wait, the Mass is in Australian. Or at the right times in Syro malabar.

And yes , we have rails, but we don’t use them, we form lines where you can kneel or stand, tongue or hand
 
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I got you there though, My Diocese has a history going back to pre Vat 11 days
 
We sang Advance Australia fair and that call to patriotic arms… I am you are we are Australian, just this morning in Mass. along with the regular music
 
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Too young to really appreciate the Latin mass though I served mass then. Studying in a very traditional Catholic school, you get to do it though. Personally I think the Catholic Church is getting better in term of liturgy.
 
Ohhhh, my. I was a young child in the '60’s but I remember it quite well. Our bishop was very, very progressive for the time. In the early part of the decade, before the Ordinary Form was to be used, our church used an experimental English mass that was a translation of the Latin, with the priest facing the people. (I don’t know if anyone higher than our bishop approved it). I never encountered the Latin mass except on vacation. I can’t say I liked it.

The bishop occasionally landed in hot water with the Vatican for things like home masses. Several members of our church were prominent in the local antiwar movement, as was the bishop. Needless to say, there were many in the diocese who loudly disagreed with our bishop, and all his words and works. Interesting times!
 
Several members of our church were prominent in the local antiwar movement, as was the bishop. Needless to say, there were many in the diocese who loudly disagreed with our bishop, and all his words and works.
Yeah, I remember when I was growing up, I felt like I was a bad Catholic because I wasn’t drawn to going on protest marches and/or moving to a third world country to do Peace Corps-style mission work. I felt like these were the requirements to be a holy person in the society of the 60s and 70s. Many people were so far into the “rejection of materialism” concept that worshipping in an ornate church or getting a decent job so you could make some money were not seen as appropriate “Catholic” goals.
 
They are solidly Catholic.

Most of these songs, if used at Mass at all, are done as a post-communion meditation or at a Mass that teens frequent. Believe it or not, we Parish Music Director do tailor what we play to the demographics of the various Masses. We have a “garage band” of older men that play at the 5 PM Mass where most of the elders of our parish attend. They play really old 60’s hymns, songs of their own composition (when I permit it, which is not often) and their rendition of even the classic hymns is a bit, well, different. The people love it. I try to get them to use proper musicianship, appropriate instrumentation and am trying to teach them to read music. That way they can use the hymnals more. They don’t like to take direction, but the new pastor told them either copperate and temper their music or go. They have elected to work with us.
The two Spanish Masses use Mexican Catholic music that they find online or bring from home or other contries like Pureto Rico or Nicaragua. It’s mostly very reverent, and sometimes pretty joyful. They submit things to me prior to using them so I can check the lyrics. The 830 AM Mass, lots of families. They like the four line, 4 stanza older hymns in the book, the classics. I have a cantor accompanying himself that leads that Mass.
The 11 AM Mass is where my large adult choir sings. We sing hymns from the hymnal, chant the Responsorial psalm using an OCP or a GIA resource, and we always do an SATB post-mediation piece. Always checking for Catholicity in lyrics. I just started a Children’s Choir and we will likely be doing some of the Contemporary Catholic things, but honestly, some of it is just too hard for them. They need very straightforward stuff.
This is why I believe people don’t “get” or “like” contemporary things that HAVE been written for the Mass.
The rythmns are not accessible sometimes, and also, unless you have a fine cantor or a group of very talented singers, they are hard to pull off. Natural artisits like Audrey Assad have the benefit of a studio and great backup. Catholic churches luck out as to what the talent level of their volunteers is. As the paid Director, I have to balance their ABILITY with the validity of its use, and faithfulness to Catholic teaching. Unpaid volunteers don’t have the time or luxury of researching and finding just the right things for Mass. They just don’t and wishing they would go away is not helpful either. Parish have to support the music ministry and encourage appropriate selections and fine presentation. They go hand in hand . My very best singer could put Josh Groban to shame, but he has taken a job at Catholic University for 2 years. So we won’t be doing anything with a huge tenor solo until he gets back. That’s just the way it is.
 
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My Parish has a guitar & drum Mass on Saturday evening. Soft, slow guitar & drum with a female Cantor that has a soft operatic voice with great range. The hymns are modern Catholic. Her voice, hymns & the instruments played has moved many Parishioners at Mass. The Mass is well attended by young & old alike. There is room & like for both in today’s Catholic Church. God bless.
 
I’m 53 years old and I love the contemporary music, Matt Mahr in particular. Maybe I’m biased because my daughter sang in the contemporary choir before going away to college, but I find the music very inspirational. The contemporary mass is the youth mass at Noon in my parish and is standing room only most weeks. Since the youth are the future of the church I’m encouraged by their attendance. Our parish has a very active youth ministry, hosts multiple retreats each year, Luke 18, and our Archdiocese sends about 3000 young people to DC each January for the march for Life.

The only thing I miss from the 60’s would be the communion rails. I wish we still had them! And my childhood priest was awesome!!!
 
This is beautiful I agree.
My question would be, do you feel like singing along with it?
I don’t. It is more a performance.<<
Good point, the best hymns are ones that can sound like something , even when the congregation doesn’t have many alumni of the Julliard School.
 
Gay used to mean Happy
A Christian news source a few years ago objected to the word “gay” being used for homosexuals and their censor program was keyed into change the word.

Worked out fine, until they covered a sports story about Olympics sprinter Tyson “Homosexual”.
 
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