"Crash" Wins Academy Award for Best Picture

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Did anyone see Munich? I saw it and liked it. We havn’t discussed it much. I guess I’m the only one who saw it. It was good. I didn’t see Crash or any other nominated movie.
 
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matt1985:
Did anyone see Munich? I saw it and liked it. We havn’t discussed it much. I guess I’m the only one who saw it. It was good. I didn’t see Crash or any other nominated movie.
I guess I’ve been a bit out of it because I had no idea what Munich was even about and I mentioned possibly wanting to see it to a friend and she said it was dark & depressing. What’s your opinion?
 
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Gosh, I really wanted Walk teh Line to wine. I thin that I may have been the only one
No, I wanted it to be on the winner’s list too. Great movie!
I’m so glad Reese won for best actress and I wish Joaquin would have won too. Reese was so sweet to mention Joaquin in her acceptance speech.
They are both amazing actors.
Matt Dillion was awesome also in Crash.
 
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maryfullofgrace:
Gosh, I really wanted Walk teh Line to wine. I thin that I may have been the only one.
I loved and was glad to see Reeses Witherspoon get an Oscar for her performance. i was disapointed it was not even nominated for Best picture.
 
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LaSalle:
Ahh … I stand corrected. All I remember was that SPR was obviously a better movie and it lost out to some namby pamby movie - the kind where, rather than go to a theatre to watch, most would have just waited for the DVD to come out.

… and don’t you think LA confidential was much better than Titanic, anyway?!
I saw Shakespeare in Love. Although now I don’t really want to see it again because Old William was married.

But honestly it was a very charming movie…Which was really well done, funny and clever…

I liked Saving Private Ryan too. But I don’t think it was that much better of a movie than Shakespeare it was just different. I think what happened was that people enjoyed Shakespeare more… Serious movies don’t always have to win…
 
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matt1985:
Did anyone see Munich? I saw it and liked it. We havn’t discussed it much. I guess I’m the only one who saw it. It was good. I didn’t see Crash or any other nominated movie.
Aye. I’ve seen them all but Crash.

Munich is brutal. It’s also non-political, which is good, but be prepared for absolutely no punches to be pulled. This is the kind of thing Spielberg does when he’s not aiming for box office receipts. It’s not a film of easy answers or sound bytes, it’s more akin with Schindler’s List, and not just in the subject matter. I want to impress; it is NOT told in a manner similar, it just has the same honesty and unwillingness to cover up the details for the sake of the more queasy viewer. If you have a weak stomach not for physical gore but emotional gore, then don’t bother.
 
Also, I would have put The Constant Gardener on the list before Walk the Line. Walk the Line would have had a chance almost any other year but this year there were too many other contenders that just blew me away. The Cash fan in me had to own Walk the Line and now does, but I recognize the ways in which the filmmaking was inferior to the four nominees I saw and the film I noted above.
 
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estesbob:
None of the movies nominated were best picture quility by any stretch of the imagination. I agree with Tony Snow that this is the year the Academy awards “jumped the shark”. It was politics over susbtance. Two gay themed movies, two the government is evil movies and one LA is racist movie. And they wonder why no one watched.
I disagree. While they were very political this year, they were excellent. Maybe there were some other movies that should have been nominated (can you name some?) But just because a movie has morals you don’t agree with, it doesn’t mean you can’t admire the acting/directing/writing. For example, say a movie was made about a young German man who join’s the Nazi army, gets caught up in the glory, and rises to power while committing atrocities. Do I agree with Naziism? Of course not. But if it was a good exploration of his feelings, struggles, and justifications for doing what he did and showed realistically how one can get caught up in such a horrible thing, I would have no problem with it getting best picture because it was a good movie, not because it portrays a Nazi in a good light or sympathizes with this character. I dont know if that was a good example, but that’s the best I can think of.
 
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siamesecat:
I disagree. While they were very political this year, they were excellent. Maybe there were some other movies that should have been nominated (can you name some?) But just because a movie has morals you don’t agree with, it doesn’t mean you can’t admire the acting/directing/writing.
That’s what I thought. Then I signed up here. 😦
 
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Liberalsaved:
Also, I would have put The Constant Gardener on the list before Walk the Line. Walk the Line would have had a chance almost any other year but this year there were too many other contenders that just blew me away. The Cash fan in me had to own Walk the Line and now does, but I recognize the ways in which the filmmaking was inferior to the four nominees I saw and the film I noted above.
Constant gardner was a good movie even though it was another “evil coporations buring raping and killing” movie. The nominees were terrible-all second and third rate films nominated only becuase they pushed the far left agenda holywood is so enamored with.

The Best Picture should have went to either Walk the Line or Narnia-neither of which was nominated because they advanced no political agenda. As I said before i agree with Tony Snow that this is the year Hollywood “Jumped the Shark” as far as the oscars are concerned. it is ironic that very few peoples watched the Osscars as well as very few people watched the nominated movies. Do you think Hollywood is going to get the message?
 
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estesbob:
Constant gardner was a good movie even though it was another “evil coporations buring raping and killing” movie. The nominees were terrible-all second and third rate films nominated only becuase they pushed the far left agenda holywood is so enamored with.

The Best Picture should have went to either Walk the Line or Narnia-neither of which was nominated because they advanced no political agenda. As I said before i agree with Tony Snow that this is the year Hollywood “Jumped the Shark” as far as the oscars are concerned. it is ironic that very few peoples watched the Osscars as well as very few people watched the nominated movies. Do you think Hollywood is going to get the message?
Walk the Line was nominated for a number of things so I don’t think the Oscars was totally averse to it, but I would agree the performances were better than the movie so I understand why Reese won and the movie didn’t. Chronicles of Narnia I do not believe deserved best picture at all; not a terrible film but not amazing. While I agree the Academy is biased to the Left somewhat, controversy is what makes a good movie. Human struggles against problems and emotional turmoil are what make a movie intriguing and deep. I mean a movie where everyone followed great morals and nothing happened would not be captivating. One movie I can think of al though I didn’t see it is Cider House Rules. That movie was pro-life and even though I’m somewhat supportive of the pro-choice movement and all my friends are totally supportive of it, we’d have no problem with seeing/enjoying/nominating this movie because I heard it was very well done.
 
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estesbob:
Constant gardner was a good movie even though it was another “evil coporations buring raping and killing” movie. The nominees were terrible-all second and third rate films nominated only becuase they pushed the far left agenda holywood is so enamored with.

The Best Picture should have went to either Walk the Line or Narnia-neither of which was nominated because they advanced no political agenda. As I said before i agree with Tony Snow that this is the year Hollywood “Jumped the Shark” as far as the oscars are concerned. it is ironic that very few peoples watched the Osscars as well as very few people watched the nominated movies. Do you think Hollywood is going to get the message?
I’m sick and tired of hearing about this non-existant anti-Christian agenda, so I’ll just say: Narnia wasn’t good enough. Neither was Walk the Line. For once they nominated movies that deserved it, though as stated, I have yet to see the actual winner.
 
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Liberalsaved:
I’m sick and tired of hearing about this non-existant anti-Christian agenda, so I’ll just say: Narnia wasn’t good enough. Neither was Walk the Line. For once they nominated movies that deserved it, though as stated, I have yet to see the actual winner.
I never said a word about an anti-christian agenda. i said, and most even in hollywood agree with me, that the Oscars are now driven by politics. they picked 5 so so movies because they pushed the liberal agenda. NONE of these movies had a stellar box office. it appears that the only people whio cared about these movies is you and hollywood.
 
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estesbob:
I never said a word about an anti-christian agenda. i said, and most even in hollywood agree with me, that the Oscars are now driven by politics. they picked 5 so so movies because they pushed the liberal agenda. NONE of these movies had a stellar box office. it appears that the only people whio cared about these movies is you and hollywood.
I’ll agree somewhat but even if they were liberally biased, it doesn’t mean they weren’t exceptional films. However, how many good movies do well at the Box Office? A few, like Titanic do. But if they aren’t really violet like Saving Private Ryan or filled with romance like Titanic, most people don’t go for them. I’m not one of these…I hate chick flicks and I love movies like Hotel Rwanda. The subject matter is too heavy or requires too much thought for the majority of many Americans I think. That’s why insightful films often don’t do well in the box office. Plus our latest box office smashes are films like Wedding Crashers, which while amusing was not Oscar-Worthy. Dumb (but hilarious) comedy is what American movie goers like.
 
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estesbob:
I never said a word about an anti-christian agenda. i said, and most even in hollywood agree with me, that the Oscars are now driven by politics. they picked 5 so so movies because they pushed the liberal agenda. NONE of these movies had a stellar box office. it appears that the only people whio cared about these movies is you and hollywood.
Millions went to see Armaggeddon. Doesn’t make it a good movie.
 
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estesbob:
I never said a word about an anti-christian agenda. i said, and most even in hollywood agree with me, that the Oscars are now driven by politics. they picked 5 so so movies because they pushed the liberal agenda. NONE of these movies had a stellar box office. it appears that the only people whio cared about these movies is you and hollywood.
I might actually have a chance to care about some of these movies if they would actually be released in theaters outside of New York and Los Angeles once in a while. 😦
 
I think they went with films they felt were objectively good.

I saw Munich and own Crash. Munich is the best film of the year in my opinion… very austere and powerful. But, it’s a film to be “admired” as opposed to “loved.” Crash is the second best film of the year in my opinion, and my favorite of the year. It is beautiful, powerful, and honest. It slaps the tag of racism and ethnicism on EVERYONE, regardless of race, ethnicity, class, or political background. The left takes it just as much as anyone else, which is great (and the liberals are apopletic that Crash beat their beloved Brokeback).

Walk The Line was no masterpiece by any stretch in my opinion, and I am in love with Reese Witherspoon and thought Joaquin Phoenix was excellent. I thought the film was plodding and dull.
 
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siamesecat:
Walk the Line was nominated for a number of things so I don’t think the Oscars was totally averse to it, but I would agree the performances were better than the movie so I understand why Reese won and the movie didn’t. Chronicles of Narnia I do not believe deserved best picture at all; not a terrible film but not amazing. While I agree the Academy is biased to the Left somewhat, controversy is what makes a good movie. Human struggles against problems and emotional turmoil are what make a movie intriguing and deep. I mean a movie where everyone followed great morals and nothing happened would not be captivating. One movie I can think of al though I didn’t see it is Cider House Rules. That movie was pro-life and even though I’m somewhat supportive of the pro-choice movement and all my friends are totally supportive of it, we’d have no problem with seeing/enjoying/nominating this movie because I heard it was very well done.
Cider House Rules had a strong pro-choice message. (The main character is opposed to abortion but performs an abortion toward the end of the movie, and this is presented as a noble choice.) I am pro-life, but I thought it was an excellent movie. So I think it’s an example of what you are talking about, though you have the movie’s ideology turned around!

Edwin
 
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Liberalsaved:
Millions went to see Armaggeddon. Doesn’t make it a good movie.
In the opinion of the “elite” it may not of been but for the the millions and millions of us that make up what the left considers " the great unwashed" It was. In a way you remark encaspulates just why the Oscars have sunk almost into irelevance.
 
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Contarini:
Cider House Rules had a strong pro-choice message. (The main character is opposed to abortion but performs an abortion toward the end of the movie, and this is presented as a noble choice.) I am pro-life, but I thought it was an excellent movie. So I think it’s an example of what you are talking about, though you have the movie’s ideology turned around!

Edwin
Planned parenthood most certainly considered it a pro-abortion film as they screened it at several fundraisers.
 
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