Created "illegal" iTunes account?

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I created a US iTunes account 4 years ago despite not living in the US but apparently i think it violates Apple’s Terms and Conditions. I recently just topped up my Apple wallet in that US account and just found out that using it was immoral because
  1. I’m lying (that I live in the US)
  2. I’m potentially breaking Apple’s Terms and Conditions
The thing is, I just topped up like, $70, and now I’m not sure whether it would be sinful to buy stuff using this iTunes account because I’m technically not supposed to use it. Can I or can I not?

Note: I’m intending on switching back my region to the country I’m staying at, but I can’t do so without spending the remaining credits in my Apple wallet. Or should I just create a new account? $70 would go down the drain, though
 
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Zynxensar said:
I created a US iTunes account 4 years ago despite not living in the US but apparently i think it violates Apple’s Terms and Conditions. I recently just topped up my Apple wallet in that US account and just found out that using it was immoral because
  1. I’m lying (that I live in the US)
  2. I’m potentially breaking Apple’s Terms and Conditions
The thing is, I just topped up like, $70, and now I’m not sure whether it would be sinful to buy stuff using this iTunes account because I’m technically not supposed to use it. Can I or can I not?

Note: I’m intending on switching back my region to the country I’m staying at, but I can’t do so without spending the remaining credits in my Apple wallet. Or should I just create a new account? $70 would go down the drain, though
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Oh goodness, the things people worry about…
 
Stop posting these threads and see your priest and mental health professional.

-Fr ACEGC
 
Apple isn’t a lawmaking body. The account isn’t “illegal” it is at worst not in compliance with their terms of service contract.
 
Dan123 said:
Apple isn’t a lawmaking body. The account isn’t “illegal” it is at worst not in compliance with their terms of service contract.
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You just had to address him, didn’t you?

Fr. Edward’s answer above yours is the ONLY correct response for this poster.

In fact, I’m going to do an “immoral” thing and shamelessly copy Father’s text word for word for the inevitable future threads like this.
 
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Did you live in the US at the time you created the account? If you did, then you weren’t lying at the time and just need to change your location to your current one and have the money placed in your country’s currency.

If you didn’t live in the US at the time, why did you say you did? Confess what you did to both your priest and to those you need to contact to have your account changed.

Yes, if you don’t live in the US, it’s deceitful to use the $70 to buy things.
 
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lilypadrees said:
Did you live in the US at the time you created the account? If you did, then you weren’t lying at the time and just need to change your location to your current one and have the money placed in your country’s currency.

If you didn’t live in the US at the time, why did you say you did? Confess what you did to both your priest and to those you need to contact to have your account changed.

Yes, if you don’t live in the US, it’s deceitful to use the $70 to buy things.
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Please, just stop.
 
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lilypadrees:
Did you live in the US at the time you created the account? If you did, then you weren’t lying at the time and just need to change your location to your current one and have the money placed in your country’s currency.

If you didn’t live in the US at the time, why did you say you did? Confess what you did to both your priest and to those you need to contact to have your account changed.

Yes, if you don’t live in the US, it’s deceitful to use the $70 to buy things.
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Please, just stop.
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Excuse me? This person has an issue that is obviously weighing heavily on his conscience. Advising someone to do the right thing is never wrong.
 
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porthos11:
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lilypadrees:
Did you live in the US at the time you created the account? If you did, then you weren’t lying at the time and just need to change your location to your current one and have the money placed in your country’s currency.

If you didn’t live in the US at the time, why did you say you did? Confess what you did to both your priest and to those you need to contact to have your account changed.

Yes, if you don’t live in the US, it’s deceitful to use the $70 to buy things.
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Please, just stop.
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Excuse me? This person has an issue that is obviously weighing heavily on his conscience. Advising someone to do the right thing is never wrong.
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Poster is extremely, extremely, extremely scrupulous, and further, has trust issues. What do you think will happen to him now that he will read your answer? He will tie himself up in knots. I have my own opinion of the question, but I will not air that here. And quite frankly, no one else should do ANYTHING to feed his scrupulosity, no matter whether your answer says one thing or another.

Only Father Edward’s answer is the correct one.

Answers like yours and Dan’s above, despite stating different messages, and no matter how correct or orthodox, will harm him. For his own sake, the forums should only provide one answer to this particular poster, and that answer is what Father Edward already said. Effectively, that one answer should ONLY, EVER be:

“Get off the forums and get some real help.”
 
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So, I shouldn’t post on CAF at all? Even the areas I don’t scruple in?
 
It’s probably for the best. You’ve posted about 100 topics, and the huge majority of them are about your scruples. Again, this will only drive your compulsions and will stunt the formation of your conscience. You might say: “Well, the good threads I post aren’t harmful, so why don’t I just post those kinds of things?” There’s a simple reason. It leaves the door open for you to be tempted to give in to scruples and post the other kind of thread you tend to. If you ask your priest and psychiatrist they’re going to say the same thing. This forum is a major source of temptation for you and you should probably take a break from it.

-Fr ACEGC
 
Hmm okay.

What about in the meantime then, before I get a Confessor? Would asking just one informed lay Catholic if I have any questions be a good temporary substitute until I get a regular Confessor?
 
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Zynxensar said:
Hmm okay.

What about in the meantime then, before I get a Confessor? Would asking just one informed lay Catholic if I have any questions be a good temporary substitute until I get a regular Confessor?
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I don’t know why you’re stalling finding a confessor. You live somewhere, you have a parish. You’ve been at this for months so I don’t know why you have an issue trusting your own pastor as your regular confessor.

A good, trained lay person may help, but given your trust issues, if you won’t even trust your pastor, how will you even trust a layman, who isn’t even bound by the seal of confidentiality anyway?

Regardless, you have issues you need to resolve, this madhouse is not the place for you to address them.

Multiple times, you’ve been told what to do already. The ball is in your court.
 
As a second year IB student, I generally don’t have much time, being bombarded with EEs, IAs, and whatnot. Though I do admit I could’ve been more proactive in seeking out a Confessor, especially on Saturdays (which are my most free days).

I don’t have trust issues. Just an excessive need of certainty to ensure that the advice I’m being given is correct eg in line with Church teaching, no matter how honest or holy the person is. Unless this is what you were referring to by “trust issues”, then yes I do have it.

Example:
Person: X isn’t a sin
Me: Ok
checks other websites and resources
Me: wait what if this person is wrong? Maybe it is a sin. Ok I’ll check with a Priest

Priest: not a sin
Me: maybe he didn’t read a part of the Catechism which may imply this is a sin. I’ll check with another Priest

…

I’ve come to realise that posting on CAF for clarification might be short-term relief, but usually doesn’t help in the Long-term. The answers I’ve received here mostly haven’t helped clear up my issues regarding morality, but I won’t say they necessarily made it worse. But either way, it’s counterproductive as after 30 minutes of internal debate, I’m usually back to square one.
 
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Zynxensar said:
I created a US iTunes account 4 years ago despite not living in the US but apparently i think it violates Apple’s Terms and Conditions. I recently just topped up my Apple wallet in that US account and just found out that using it was immoral because
  1. I’m lying (that I live in the US)
  2. I’m potentially breaking Apple’s Terms and Conditions
The thing is, I just topped up like, $70, and now I’m not sure whether it would be sinful to buy stuff using this iTunes account because I’m technically not supposed to use it. Can I or can I not?

Note: I’m intending on switching back my region to the country I’m staying at, but I can’t do so without spending the remaining credits in my Apple wallet. Or should I just create a new account? $70 would go down the drain, though
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I strongly suggest you hold off from starting anymore threads until you are able to sort out your scrupulosity with a priest. You said you had contacted one. Did you get a reply yet. Have you also spoken to your parish priest yet.
 
Yes, I think that would be a good idea. A few actually, through email though. Haven’t spoken to my parish priest in person but I have emailed him. Planning to do so this weekend. And nope no reply from him. The only reply I got from a Priest was “Clarify with your parish priest what area of scruples you have and see what he suggests you”
 
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Zynxensar said:
As a second year IB student, I generally don’t have much time, being bombarded with EEs, IAs, and whatnot. Though I do admit I could’ve been more proactive in seeking out a Confessor, especially on Saturdays (which are my most free days).

I don’t have trust issues. Just an excessive need of certainty to ensure that the advice I’m being given is correct eg in line with Church teaching, no matter how honest or holy the person is. Unless this is what you were referring to by “trust issues”, then yes I do have it.

Example:
Person: X isn’t a sin
Me: Ok
checks other websites and resources
Me: wait what if this person is wrong? Maybe it is a sin. Ok I’ll check with a Priest

Priest: not a sin
Me: maybe he didn’t read a part of the Catechism which may imply this is a sin. I’ll check with another Priest

…

I’ve come to realise that posting on CAF for clarification might be short-term relief, but usually doesn’t help in the Long-term. The answers I’ve received here mostly haven’t helped clear up my issues regarding morality, but I won’t say they necessarily made it worse. But either way, it’s counterproductive as after 30 minutes of internal debate, I’m usually back to square one.
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That is the very definition of trust issues.

And further, checking other websites and resources are the PRECISE thing to NOT do.

The scrupulous are to OBEY and BELIEVE their confessor, not countercheck their counsel against other “resources”.

The fact that you do this proves you have trust issues, which compounds your scrupulosity, and is the main reason you are not getting better.

That’s why I’ve told a couple of posters here, and will continue to do so, to not answer your questions in any way, shape, or form, whether to validate or discount your suspicions. The only correct answer for you is to tell, believe, and obey your confessor, and him alone.
 
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