Credibility gap: Pope needs to answer questions [NCRep]

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The Holy Father needs to directly answer questions, in a credible forum, about his role – as archbishop of Munich (1977-82), as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (1982-2005), and as pope (2005-present) – in the mismanagement of the clergy sex abuse crisis.
We urge this not primarily as journalists seeking a story, but as Catholics who appreciate that extraordinary circumstances require an extraordinary response. Nothing less than a full, personal and public accounting will begin to address the crisis that is engulfing the worldwide church. It is that serious.
To date, as revelations about administrative actions resulting in the shifting of clergy abusers from parish to parish emerge throughout Europe, Pope Benedict XVI’s personal response has been limited to a letter to the Irish church. Such epistles are customary and necessary, but insufficient.
Read more here: ncronline.org/news/accountability/credibility-gap-pope-needs-answer-questions

The March 26th Times article that they refer too, I think has since proven it is false. Pope Benedict was not complicit in any cover up.
 
Who would you trust with your soul, the people who write the NCR (“National Catholic Reporter?”, ie. liberal cafeteria catholics) or the Pope?

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I just heard Jeff Field, the Director of Communications for the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, on the CBC’s The Current. He provided the usual excuses about the Wisconsin case- i.e. it did not make it to Ratzinger’s desk until many years after the abuse occured and the media is focusing too much on Catholic abuse.

I have been profoundly disappointed by the unwillingness by many Catholic organizations to address the problem head and deal with the horrible abuse of power by our Catholic clergy and the systemic problems that exist in the church administration. I personally believe that the only way we Catholics can take back the moral ground we have lost is by holding our leaders accountable.
 
Lemonbeam, where do you get all these articles? You’re like my news outlet. 😃 Grazie for your efforts in keeping us all informed here. :tiphat:*
 
I just heard Jeff Field, the Director of Communications for the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, on the CBC’s The Current. He provided the usual excuses about the Wisconsin case- i.e. it did not make it to Ratzinger’s desk until many years after the abuse occured and the media is focusing too much on Catholic abuse.

I have been profoundly disappointed by the unwillingness by many Catholic organizations to address the problem head and deal with the horrible abuse of power by our Catholic clergy and the systemic problems that exist in the church administration. I personally believe that the only way we Catholics can take back the moral ground we have lost is by holding our leaders accountable.
Since when did the truth become an excuse? The media is not looking at the fact that complaints made to the civil authorities were not followed up. Why did the civil authorities do nothing? Are they not guilty of serious wrongdoing? Cardinal Ratzinger didn’t know about the abuse until twenty years later. Fr. Murphy died soon after.

Lemonbeam, the NCR in my own opinion is just nominally Catholic.

Sorry, I’m just fed up listening to half-truths and falsehoods being fed to us as fact. Here in Ireland the Churches guidelines on child abuse are now more stringent than the governments, but you won’t hear that in the media.:mad:
 
I just heard Jeff Field, the Director of Communications for the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, on the CBC’s The Current. He provided the usual excuses about the Wisconsin case- i.e. it did not make it to Ratzinger’s desk until many years after the abuse occured and the media is focusing too much on Catholic abuse.

I have been profoundly disappointed by the unwillingness by many Catholic organizations to address the problem head and deal with the horrible abuse of power by our Catholic clergy and the systemic problems that exist in the church administration. I personally believe that the only way we Catholics can take back the moral ground we have lost is by holding our leaders accountable.
Lets get straight to the Murphy case:

Father Murphy was accused of sexually abusing children while he worked as director of St. John School for the Deaf in St. Francis, Wisconsin, from July 1, 1963 to May 18, 1974.

During the mid-1970s, some of Father Murphy’s victims reported his abuse to civil authorities, who investigated him at that time.

The Archdiocese of Milwaukee noted on their Web site that in the fall of 1973 the abuse was reported to the Milwaukee police, who turned the matter over to the city of St. Francis local authorities. No civil charges were filed.

At that same time, the allegations were brought to the attention of Archbishop William Cousins, then the head of the archdiocese. Father Murphy was removed from his post on May 18, 1974.

In September of that year, the priest relocated to the Diocese of Superior. A civil lawsuit was filed against the Archdiocese of Milwaukee regarding Murphy in 1975, and was resolved in 1976.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was not informed of the matter until some 20 years later.

A case synopsis from the Milwaukee Archdiocesan tribunal, publicized by the New York Times, reported that the then Archbishop Rembert Weakland, who eventually brought the case to the congregation, began to receive letters in 1995 regarding accusations against Father Murphy.

On Dec. 21 of that year, he ordered an investigation into the matter. When it became evident that the allegations were most likely true, and, given the fact that they were grave and involved a violation of the confessional, Archbishop Weakland decided to bring the matter to the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, at that time headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, which deals with cases of the abuse of the sacrament of confession.

In the late 1990s, after over two decades had passed since the abuse had been reported to diocesan officials and the police, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith was presented for the first time with the question of how to treat the Murphy case canonically.

The congregation was informed of the matter because it involved solicitation in the confessional, which is a violation of the Sacrament of Penance.

In other words, it involved the Vatican instruction “Crimen Sollicitationis” (crime of soliciting), which deals with clergy who are accused of using the sacrament of confession to make sexual advances toward penitents. The document was published in 1962, and contains procedures for dealing with these serious cases.

The Vatican spokesman clarified: "It has been suggested that a relationship exists between the application of ‘Crimen sollicitationis’ and the non-reporting of child abuse to civil authorities in this case.

"In fact, there is no such relationship.

“Indeed, contrary to some statements that have circulated in the press, neither ‘Crimen’ nor the Code of Canon Law ever prohibited the reporting of child abuse to law enforcement authorities.”

In this case, the civil authorities were notified of the abuse decades before news reached the Vatican.

Archbishop Weakland sent the letter to Cardinal Ratzinger on July 17, 1996. On Oct. 15, the archbishop ordered a judicial trial against Father Murphy.

Regarding the trial, Father Lombardi clarified today that “in such cases, the Code of Canon Law does not envision automatic penalties, but recommends that a judgment be made not excluding even the greatest ecclesiastical penalty of dismissal from the clerical state (cf. Canon 1395, No. 2).”

The archdiocesan tribunal case synopsis detailed several other steps by which the trial moved forward in these months.

It noted that on Jan. 6, 1998, Father Murphy himself wrote a letter to the Vatican congregation stating that the peremptory time period had elapsed, and requesting an exception from the case being heard.

However, the archdiocesan tribunal reported that the Vatican congregation responded to Father Murphy with an April 6, 1998, letter asserting that there are no set time periods for cases of solicitation, and refusing the request for exception.

The tribunal ended the synopsis by expressing the hope for an official judgment in August, 1998.

It is important to note that the canonical question presented to the congregation was unrelated to any potential civil or criminal proceedings against Father Murphy.

On May 30, 1998, Archbishop Weakland met with then Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, at that time secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith; Bishop Raphael Fliss, then bishop of Superior; and others, to discuss the case of Father Murphy.

In the minutes of the meeting, also publicized by the Times, the Church leaders discussed the fact that “because of the long period of time” since the events of the case, “it is no longer possible to start a civil trial in the state of Wisconsin.”

They referenced the “generous law of defense that exists in the U.S.A. and the difficulties that would arise from the execution of this case.”
 
I just heard Jeff Field, the Director of Communications for the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, on the CBC’s The Current. He provided the usual excuses about the Wisconsin case- i.e. it did not make it to Ratzinger’s desk until many years after the abuse occured and the media is focusing too much on Catholic abuse.

I have been profoundly disappointed by the unwillingness by many Catholic organizations to address the problem head and deal with the horrible abuse of power by our Catholic clergy and the systemic problems that exist in the church administration. I personally believe that the only way we Catholics can take back the moral ground we have lost is by holding our leaders accountable.
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The congregation was informed of the matter because it involved solicitation in the confessional, which is a violation of the Sacrament of Penance.

In other words, it involved the Vatican instruction “Crimen Sollicitationis” (crime of soliciting), which deals with clergy who are accused of using the sacrament of confession to make sexual advances toward penitents. The document was published in 1962, and contains procedures for dealing with these serious cases.

The Vatican spokesman clarified: "It has been suggested that a relationship exists between the application of ‘Crimen sollicitationis’ and the non-reporting of child abuse to civil authorities in this case.

"In fact, there is no such relationship.

“Indeed, contrary to some statements that have circulated in the press, neither ‘Crimen’ nor the Code of Canon Law ever prohibited the reporting of child abuse to law enforcement authorities.”

In this case, the civil authorities were notified of the abuse decades before news reached the Vatican.

Archbishop Weakland sent the letter to Cardinal Ratzinger on July 17, 1996. On Oct. 15, the archbishop ordered a judicial trial against Father Murphy.

Regarding the trial, Father Lombardi clarified today that “in such cases, the Code of Canon Law does not envision automatic penalties, but recommends that a judgment be made not excluding even the greatest ecclesiastical penalty of dismissal from the clerical state (cf. Canon 1395, No. 2).”

The archdiocesan tribunal case synopsis detailed several other steps by which the trial moved forward in these months.

It noted that on Jan. 6, 1998, Father Murphy himself wrote a letter to the Vatican congregation stating that the peremptory time period had elapsed, and requesting an exception from the case being heard.

However, the archdiocesan tribunal reported that the Vatican congregation responded to Father Murphy with an April 6, 1998, letter asserting that there are no set time periods for cases of solicitation, and refusing the request for exception.

The tribunal ended the synopsis by expressing the hope for an official judgment in August, 1998.

It is important to note that the canonical question presented to the congregation was unrelated to any potential civil or criminal proceedings against Father Murphy.

On May 30, 1998, Archbishop Weakland met with then Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, at that time secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith; Bishop Raphael Fliss, then bishop of Superior; and others, to discuss the case of Father Murphy.

In the minutes of the meeting, also publicized by the Times, the Church leaders discussed the fact that “because of the long period of time” since the events of the case, “it is no longer possible to start a civil trial in the state of Wisconsin.”

They referenced the “generous law of defense that exists in the U.S.A. and the difficulties that would arise from the execution of this case.”

The meeting participants noted that there were also “not enough elements to instruct a canonical trial,” but nonetheless stated that the diocese should remove the offending priest from the celebration of the Eucharist and consider “penal remedies.”

They underlined the “needed remorse and reform” of Father Murphy.

On Aug. 19, 1998, Archbishop Weakland wrote to Archbishop Bertone outlining the action items that the archdiocese was pursuing in the case. Two days later, on Aug. 21, Father Murphy died of natural causes.

Upon receiving a letter informing him of the death, Archbishop Bertone responded on Sept. 28, affirming that “having taken note of his passing, the case of the accusation made against Father Murphy of solicitation in the Sacrament of Confession is, in effect, closed.”

Father Lombardi affirmed in his statement that at the time of the investigation by the congregation, Father Murphy “was elderly and in very poor health.”
 
Since when did the truth become an excuse? The media is not looking at the fact that complaints made to the civil authorities were not followed up. Why did the civil authorities do nothing? Are they not guilty of serious wrongdoing? Cardinal Ratzinger didn’t know about the abuse until twenty years later. Fr. Murphy died soon after.

Lemonbeam, the NCR in my own opinion is just nominally Catholic.

Sorry, I’m just fed up listening to half-truths and falsehoods being fed to us as fact. Here in Ireland the Churches guidelines on child abuse are now more stringent than the governments, but you won’t hear that in the media.:mad:
Here, here! Very good post!
 
Lemonbeam, where do you get all these articles? You’re like my news outlet. 😃 Grazie for your efforts in keeping us all informed here. :tiphat:*
I go to all the Catholic news website, Christian news websites. 🙂
 
Since when did the truth become an excuse? The media is not looking at the fact that complaints made to the civil authorities were not followed up. Why did the civil authorities do nothing? Are they not guilty of serious wrongdoing? Cardinal Ratzinger didn’t know about the abuse until twenty years later. Fr. Murphy died soon after.

Lemonbeam, the NCR in my own opinion is just nominally Catholic.

Sorry, I’m just fed up listening to half-truths and falsehoods being fed to us as fact. Here in Ireland the Churches guidelines on child abuse are now more stringent than the governments, but you won’t hear that in the media.:mad:
Thank you for your post. This is very upsetting…reading some who have very little confidence in Pope Benedict. I know in my heart that the church will survive but when I look at the Pope…read his teachings, I know he would never do anything that would harm the Church.
 
The second article in the New York Times is full of facts.

nytimes.com/2010/03/27/us/27wisconsin.html

The abused men, who were a large number, tried to get the civil authorities to act against Fr. Murphy but the police were overwhelmingly Catholic and were reluctant to act. Nothing was done over the terms of at least three Archbishops’ terms , Meyers, Cousins, and Weakland, until Weakland appealed to Cardinal Ratzinger, himself opened the case which was closed by Ratzinger two years later after an appeal by Murphy, who died shortly thereafter. In my opinion, Ratzinger and the diocese never should have shut the case, which had been brewing for many years. There was a civil suit settled for $2000. Finally, Murphy was shipped upstate in retirement.

The management of this case is a disgrace to the archdiocese of Milwaukee. However, it is also deeply regrettable that Cardinal Ratzinger delayed for almost two years in his response to Weakland’s appeal, and then acceded to Murphy’s request that the trial be cancelled because of his ill health.
 
The second article in the New York Times is full of facts.

nytimes.com/2010/03/27/us/27wisconsin.html

The abused men, who were a large number, tried to get the civil authorities to act against Fr. Murphy but the police were overwhelmingly Catholic and were reluctant to act.
I’ve read the article a few times. Where does it say the police were overwhelmingly Catholic? It doesn’t. Please let us stick to facts. Anyway, regardless of what religion the police were, it was they who did nothing.

As for the rest of the post I think Lemonbeam has more than adequately explained the timeline.
 
The second article in the New York Times is full of facts.

nytimes.com/2010/03/27/us/27wisconsin.html

The abused men, who were a large number, tried to get the civil authorities to act against Fr. Murphy but the police were overwhelmingly Catholic and were reluctant to act. Nothing was done over the terms of at least three Archbishops’ terms , Meyers, Cousins, and Weakland, until Weakland appealed to Cardinal Ratzinger, himself opened the case which was closed by Ratzinger two years later after an appeal by Murphy, who died shortly thereafter. In my opinion, Ratzinger and the diocese never should have shut the case, which had been brewing for many years. There was a civil suit settled for $2000. Finally, Murphy was shipped upstate in retirement.

The management of this case is a disgrace to the archdiocese of Milwaukee. However, it is also deeply regrettable that Cardinal Ratzinger delayed for almost two years in his response to Weakland’s appeal, and then acceded to Murphy’s request that the trial be cancelled because of his ill health.
The pope is innocent of any wrong doing. Every attempted smear story they throw at him falls short. All you have to do is read the details. For example; in Munich we’re talking about one case, wherein somebody beneath him transferred an accused priest without his knowledge or consent. Then in the case of Milwaukee, again we are talking about one accused priest, who could not be prosecuted by civil authorities and the charges were dropped. Then while the Archbishop was the one and only man who could have done anything, he decided to punt the case to the Vatican instead, where it was delayed for months. Finally, when a response was given, it was given not by Cardinal Ratzinger (currently Pope Benedict XVI), but by somebody completely different, recommending the trial be canceled since the accused priest was dying. He died four months later. Once again, the responsibility lay at the Archbishop of Milwaukee’s feet, because he alone was the only one who had evidence to defrock the accused priest, and yet he tried to pass the buck instead.

That’s it! That’s all the liberal mainstream media has! That is their whole case! Yet with that, they are trying to implicate the pope in some sort of trial by newspaper in which they alone play the judge, jury and executioner.

Since the mainstream news media refuses to do their jobs, let us in the blogosphere once again do it for them. Here are the facts…

FACT #1
The Catholic Church has ALWAYS taught that sexual abuse of minors is a damnable sin, of the worst kind, in which Jesus Christ himself said it would be better for someone who does this to tie a millstone around his neck and be thrown into the deepest part of the sea. Catholics involved in sexual abuse have not only failed in morality, but they have also failed in Catholicism, in that they are not practicing the Catholic Christian faith at all.

FACT #2
The total number of all priests accused of sexual abuse of minors is less than 5% of all Catholic clergy. That means more than 95% of Catholic clergy have never been accused and are doing their jobs correctly, living quiet and holy lives in service to their parishes.

FACT #3
In spite of what people say about clerical celibacy being a “cause” of these problems, actual statistics indicate that the majority of sex-abuse of minors is perpetrated by married men; step-fathers, uncles, cousins and live-in boyfriends. Statistically speaking, being a celibate man in the Catholic priesthood actually REDUCES your odds of sexually abusing minors. That’s just a matter of statistical FACT.

FACT #4
In the overwhelming vast majority of cases where sexual abuse was reported in the Catholic Church, the alleged victim was a male between the ages of 12 and 18. Victims younger than 12 were almost never reported, and sexual abuse of females was also rare. This is not the clinical definition of pedophilia. It is however a type of predatory homosexuality that seeks to take advantage of underage young men. Therefore the term “pedophile priests” is a misnomer and not based on hard statistical data. A more accurate term should be “predatory homosexual priests.”

FACT #5
Homosexual men are not allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. In order for a homosexual to become a priest he must lie about his homosexuality just to get into seminary and remain “in the closet” indefinitely. If he is ever discovered to be gay, he would be fired and laicized (defrocked).

FACT #6
Sexual abuse of minors is slightly higher in Protestant churches according to data released by insurance agencies that underwrite them.

FACT #7
Sexual abuse of minors is significantly higher in non-religious institutions that deal with children, particularly public schools, where according to a U.S. government report, a child is literally over 100 times more likely to be molested in a public school than in a Catholic church.

FACT #8
The reforms implemented in the US Catholic Church after the sex-abuse scandal of 2002-2003 have been hailed by child protective services as the most comprehensive ever seen in a public institution and have been cited as a model for other institutions to follow.

catholicknight.blogspot.com/2010/03/pope-to-be-crucified-this-easter.html
 
Lemonbeam sets forth a good, standard, defense based on facts. But the defense falls short in that it overlooks the magnitude of the number of misdeeds of abusers and those who aided and abetted them. More disclosures are coming out daily, millions of dollars, perhaps billions, have already been paid to victims. “Circling the wagons” or “hunkering down” may work this time but such a course seems risky. Full disclosure followed by a thorough “cleansing of the temple” would be better. The guilty could be expelled and the virtuous retained.
 
Hi everyone,

I really wish we could learn the whole truth. This is such an mess of extremes.

Some of the most conservative people I know are speaking of the Pope stepping down. I, personally do not know what to think. This priest was a total disgrace to the Catholic Church, and some closure was needed for his victims.

This certainly should have been a greater priority than a pervert living out his life in the dignity of his priesthood. Dignity? Priesthood?

Lux
 
Lemonbeam sets forth a good, standard, defense based on facts. But the defense falls short in that it overlooks the magnitude of the number of misdeeds of abusers and those who aided and abetted them. More disclosures are coming out daily, millions of dollars, perhaps billions, have already been paid to victims. “Circling the wagons” or “hunkering down” may work this time but such a course seems risky. Full disclosure followed by a thorough “cleansing of the temple” would be better. The guilty could be expelled and the virtuous retained.
You have to remember that 95%+ of Priests have never been involved in sex abuse. The revelations of abuse in the media come from decades ago. These scandals are not repeatable because of the reforms that Pope Benedict himself helped to put into place. It is better it all comes out in the wash now. It’s the only way we as a Church can move on and start afresh.
 
Hi everyone,

I really wish we could learn the whole truth. This is such an mess of extremes.

Some of the most conservative people I know are speaking of the Pope stepping down. I, personally do not know what to think. This priest was a total disgrace to the Catholic Church, and some closure was needed for his victims.

This certainly should have been a greater priority than a pervert living out his life in the dignity of his priesthood. Dignity? Priesthood?

Lux
I questioned the Pope’s moral authority when I first read that New York times article, then I started doing some research and saw that the article was misleading, mainly using suspicion instead of facts. Why should the Pope step down if he is not complicit in covering up sex abuse? If he had, I could understand, but he hasn’t.
 
Hi again LB,

And yes. thanks so much for the links and your supportive, yet objective posts.

Believe me, it is with a very heavy heart that I posted. I am a daily communicant, and very Catholic, if you know what I mean. I hate this outcry, which is especially bad on the liberal sites.

The pope turned a deaf ear to the cries for justice. This is my problem.

Prayerfully,
Lux
 
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