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Even from a purely civil perspective , there are laws to protect against inflicting an indignity on a dead human body. In some cases this law is interpreted broadly.
In Canada it’s worded this way
DEAD BODY
182. Every one who
(a) neglects, without lawful excuse, to perform any duty that is imposed on him by law or that he undertakes with reference to the burial of a dead human body or human remains, or
(b) improperly or indecently interferes with or offers any indignity to a dead human body or human remains, whether buried or not,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years. [R.S., c.C-34, c.178.]
So even the state requires respect for the mortal remains of a human person. And “scattering ashes” requires permission of the land owner, or in case of public land, the authorities. It isn’t permitted in fresh water , and as a general rule , over salt water it has to be done several miles from shore.

The Jews’ respect for the dead – is a tradition that dates back thousands of years. Today, in their law cremation is still forbidden – much like the Orthodox Church. Both Orthodox and non-Orthodox rabbinical authorities frown on cremation” ,while, on top of that, Rabbi Jeremy Kalmanofsky who leads Congregation Ansche Chesed in Manhattan, says that “after the Shoa” , “the thought of burning bodies is unbearable.” That’s one complication.

Here’s where the tradition starts in the Judeo-Christian sphere of thought:
“Jews have always had the tradition, going back to biblical times, to create a space on earth to mourn the dead,” said Rabbi Andy Bachman, spiritual leader of Congregation Beth Elohim, a Reform synagogue in Brooklyn. “The simplest way to put it is, if you go all the way back to Abraham’s first act after Sarah died, it was to secure a plot of land in order to bury her.”
Rabbi Kalmanofsky has a valid point too – throughout the ages beginning in Judaism and continuing in the shoot which sprung forth from it – Christianity , the burning of a body (unless there was some sort of an epidemic) has usually been interpreted as an indignity.

Too often there are people (good Catholics included) who, to give a very simple analogy, consider the soul as the chips and the body as the bag. Once we’re done with the chips, just pitch the body.

More and more people seem to be under this impression ( a flagrant misconception actually) of what a man, a woman, were created to be. As God had intended in creation, the human body wasn’t meant to die. Man has his own hypostasis of corporeal (body) and spirit (soul) – both of these make up the one suppositum of man . So the promise of the Resurrection and a glorified body is a restoral – a consummation which, because of God’s grace and Mercy will actually surpass our original state we enjoyed before the fall.
A Christian body is considered with due respect and dignity , because it is/was the temple of the Holy Spirit
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There may be some justification for cremation in certain cases. However, once an exception has been allowed and an indult granted, it only takes one precedent being set to open the door wide enough for abuses to creep in. For example, the Catholic Church desires that the body be present at the funeral and if it is to be cremated, that should happen only afterwards. There’s a way to get around it. How many times do we see funeral Masses with the ashes present today ? Or, when’s the last time someone said to you, “I’m going to have his/her body cremated after the funeral ?”

Here is a link to some regulations and explanations pertaininf to cremation and how the (Catholic) Church and the faithful are to proceed in the Diocese of Kingston (Ontario) :
romancatholic.kingston.on.ca/LITURGY%20FILES/LITURIGICAL%20FILES/Order%20of%20Christain%20Funerals%20-%20%20Cremation%202005.pdf
Prohibition Lifted
. . . Today, when people deny the need of a Christian burial or a Funeral Mass, this might stem from a new sort of denial: a denial of the Church’s belief in the afterlife and of the need for ongoing purification and the prayers for the dead. In this case, using cremation as a way of expediting a funeral flows from a attitude that is in contradiction to Christian faith. It may reflect a world that does not like to deal with death, which is seen as an embarrassment, something to be gotten through as quickly as possible, with a minimum of pain or bother. Yet for Catholics death is a statement that life on earth is precious and is the passage to a fuller, final life with the risen Christ.
Cremation is body disposal – it isn’t burial . And who reading these forums believes that 100% of the remains of a cremated body end up in the urn once you receive them ?

Even the word “ashes” is a bit of a misnomer. “Cremated remains” is a conveniently more obscure approximation.
 
Don’t be too quick to blame your computer skills on that one: I’ve lost more than several things I’ve attempted to post myself after logging in. The problem seems to be persistent (but not exclusively) when I don’t check the “remember me” box when logging in Still, I like to be stubborn at times and don’t always remember to copy (temporarily backup) what I’m about to post. Sometimes it appears to happen even when that box is checked. At any rate, - definitely not a happy camper when I do end up Iosing something I’d been working on for several hours just as I’m about to post it.
Haha! Know how you feel! Can you tell me how to take out just part of a post as a quote? I haven’t worked that one out yet…
 
You do offend our faith a little in previous posts - as others have already remarked , but perhaps it isn’t fully intentional. However, that isn’t the reason why I don’t always address posters directly - it’s actually based more on a effort to try to keep it from getting too personal, or on keeping a distance until it can be established that someone is serious (doesn’t always work though). I’m hoping you can appreciate that just as the mainstream media never shuts up in their incessant criticism and whining about Catholicicsm, we aren’t even close to being immune to that sort of thing here. As for me personally , I suspect I might be a little less grumpy now that we have a new Pope (:)).

Thanks for clarifying.

As to why ashes can’t be scattered , how about beginning with what civil and private authorities (don’t) have to say on the matter. Let’s begin there. As mentioned previously, I can’t say I enjoy doing anyone’s homework for them, but tell me how you perceive/interpret it. Here’s a link that gives a general idea :

harmonycasket.com/scattering

Here’s another more pertinent to the USA cremationsolutions.com/Scattering-Ashes-Laws-Regulations-c108.html

You still don’t seem to be specific in “how” relics were big business (please supply some links to substantiiate the assertion) . From earlier posts, it appears that you believe relics coming to a town somehow generates business. The truth is more along the lines that it generates prayer.

Pilgrims do need to be fed and housed though - that’s a simple fact of life. Not too long ago the relics of St. Thérèse de Lisieux traveled all around the world after she’d been declared a Doctor of the Church in the late 1990’s. It was a way for individuals to feel closer to her and subsequently God in prayer. I went to visit the relics here at St. Joseph’s Oratory - didn’t have to pay a cent for admission or anything. Also, it is prohibited to sell any item once it has been blessed. So once we have bought our rosaries, religious medals, statues and the like , we have them blessed afterwards.

That being said, you won’t have any trouble finding comments from among the faithful - even those who have visited such reputed sites as Fatima which express a particular despondency at what they view as too much commercialism. Money mongers are another fact of life - wherever something is sensational or can be sensationalized, or wherever there is a buck to be made (or a quid to be had) they aren’t going to be far behind.

Regarding canonization, the process is more complicated and not really how you perceive it. In earlier times , ecclesiatiscal honour could be granted to martyrs or confessors by bishops or patriarchs,but only for a local territory . Still, this was always based on the soul-
The Catholic Church canonizes or beatifies only those whose lives have been marked by the exercise of heroic virtue, and only after this has been proved by common repute for sanctity and by conclusive arguments
newadvent.org/cathen/02364b.htm
 
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