Crimeans Who Ushered in the Russians Now Have to Live With Their Choice

[pepipop]

I encounter the same thing at my school. In my age groups its apparently like universal support. Makes me worried about future priests and bishops . They don’t grow in secluded forests after all.

It’s all the constant media propaganda, the films/TV shows etc. that the younger generation has grown up with which accept homosexuality and have made it appear ‘normal’. Needless to say legal legislation of SSM makes it even more so.

I fully agree, it is so much for difficult for the younger generation to get things into perspective when they’ve been ‘programmed’ to believe thatsin is ok. .

Boar, I can’t believe you’re of school age, an old head on young shoulders! You’re a credit to your age group

 

[Ridgerunner]

Not having it being a cultural pillar? Not equating people who oppose it in the same class as racists.

I think you know. (Its not just Russia or islamic cultures)

You mean homosexuality? Is that what you’re seeking “alternatives” for? What would those alternatives do about it?

 

[boar2roar]

In other words, EU does not require it. Thank you.

Its not that simple. It might not explicitly require it but it does pressure countries and occasionally fines them if they don’t go along with it. Its not a coincidence that countries were formerly it would be unimaginable for it to get close to passing and after begin in the EU its one vote or year away from going through. Its not a direct marching order its far more subtle, effective, and powerful than that. You can keep on saying that but 20 years from now when its is legalized across the whole EU those words don’t mean much.

 

[boar2roar]

It’s all the constant media propaganda, the films/TV shows etc. that the younger generation has grown up with which accept homosexuality and have made it appear ‘normal’. Needless to say legal legislation of SSM makes it even more so.

I fully agree, it is so much for difficult for the younger generation to get things into perspective when they’ve been ‘programmed’ to believe thatsin is ok. .

Boar, I can’t believe you’re of school age, an old head on young shoulders! You’re a credit to your age group

Have you also noticed that it is almost required now in western TV shows to have a homosexual couple? Its these subtle thing but its a testament to how its been ingrained int eh culture.

I’m not exactly school age. I’m old enough to vote but not old enough to legally drink in the US. Still my voice is rare in my age group, or at least to scared to admit it in public.

 

[pepipop]

Have you also noticed that it is almost required now in western TV shows to have a homosexual couple? Its these subtle thing but its a testament to how its been ingrained int eh culture.

I’m not exactly school age. I’m old enough to vote but not old enough to legally drink in the US. Still my voice is rare in my age group, or at least to scared to admit it in public.

Still ‘young’ in my eyes!

Yes, I agree the media was the subtle start of the sway to get people used to the idea. We have soap operas in the UK (that are watched in Ireland), the first gay character being controversially introduced, in 1989.

Now all soaps have their obligatory gay couple, if not two - in a community of around 30 people!

 

[Tbrightson]

I’m not exactly school age. I’m old enough to vote but not old enough to legally drink in the US.

Good lord I have been arguing with a yute? Why have I been wasting my time!? At their age they know it all…

 

[pepipop]

I’m not exactly school age. I’m old enough to vote but not old enough to legally drink in the US.

Don’t worry we’re not all ‘yutes’!

 

[Tbrightson]

Don’t worry we’re not all ‘yutes’!

And to you guys I say “Your old enough to know better!!”

 

[FollowChrist34]

Don’t worry we’re not all ‘yutes’!

No, we are definitely not all yutes. I do admire our CAF yutes though; keep up the good work. When I was a yute, I didn’t hesitate to speak my mind or step out of line. That is why I have a hard time with how it seems like everyone under 25-30 is so into this SSM thing.

And agreed on the TV propaganda - the BBC does it now too. It is really annoying…for those of us who have real, life-based views outside of the new “prescribed norm.”

I hope for their own sakes these kids get it together…what a dismal life otherwise.

 

[Klemens_Hadwig]

I hope for their own sakes these kids get it together…what a dismal life otherwise.

I hope my generation can pull it off as well. However, as I meet more people from my age group (20-25), the future appears bleaker. Sometimes I wish I was born 10-20 years earlier, so that I could experience the imperfect but still better world of my childhood during the prime of my youth.

As an avid admirer of Richard Wagner and his operas, I wish that somebody would simply return Alberich’s ring back into the Rhein. Humanity needs a good Götterdämmerung.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Its not that simple. It might not explicitly require it but it does pressure countries and occasionally fines them if they don’t go along with it. Its not a coincidence that countries were formerly it would be unimaginable for it to get close to passing and after begin in the EU its one vote or year away from going through. Its not a direct marching order its far more subtle, effective, and powerful than that. You can keep on saying that but 20 years from now when its is legalized across the whole EU those words don’t mean much.

Which is the problem? The lack of a dictatorship that some consider moral or a lack of proper catechesis in the churches?

I say it’s the latter. When is the last time you heard a priest preach from the pulpit about chastity? About homosexuality? About pornography? “Back in the day”, I am informed, Catholics had an enormous influence on the entertainment media. If you see old movies on, say, TCM, you can see it. Why was that? It was because there was proper teaching and the priests and bishops were not hesitant to condemn or praise this show or that movie or this book or that other form of entertainment. And Catholics actually listened to them.

Would they (we) listen now? It might be a bumpy start, but over time, I think Catholics would. I say we need more gumption in the chanceries, for a start.

 

[FollowChrist34]

I hope my generation can pull it off as well. However, as I meet more people from my age group (20-25), the future appears bleaker. Sometimes I wish I was born 10-20 years earlier, so that I could experience the imperfect but still better world of my childhood during the prime of my youth.

As an avid admirer of Richard Wagner and his operas, I wish that somebody would simply return Alberich’s ring back into the Rhein. Humanity needs a good Götterdämmerung.

Good luck to you. I always envied the people before me too (these would be the 60s generation). Not so much their politics but the music, excitement. My dad went off into the hippy thing - it was kind of fun, living on a farm eating granola when I was kid in the 70s. Everybody plays it so safe now. You only live once.

When I was your age I loved Wagner and Nietzsche. My tastes have mellowed and improved a little since then, but I still admire both a lot.

Promise me this, when you are old, you will be nice to the young. They are annoying. You just have to keep reminding yourself what it was like. This all happens very fast, trust me.

 

[pepipop]

Which is the problem? The lack of a dictatorship that some consider moral or a lack of proper catechesis in the churches?

I say it’s the latter. When is the last time you heard a priest preach from the pulpit about chastity? About homosexuality? About pornography? “Back in the day”, I am informed, Catholics had an enormous influence on the entertainment media. If you see old movies on, say, TCM, you can see it. Why was that? It was because there was proper teaching and the priests and bishops were not hesitant to condemn or praise this show or that movie or this book or that other form of entertainment. And Catholics actually listened to them.

Would they (we) listen now? It might be a bumpy start, but over time, I think Catholics would. I say we need more gumption in the chanceries, for a start.

I disagree with this analogy. ‘Real life’ and the law of the land effect a population immensely, whatever a person’s religious background is - if they are lukewam, then they will be easily swayed.

Homosexuality was defined as a mental illness and illegal when most of the TCM films were being produced, children born out of wedlock were frowned upon and/or mothers were institutionalised, and the CC was held in high esteem. In other words some ‘sins’ were condemned, legally or socially, in that era.

Unfortunately, a lot has happened in between both legally and with the church.

I think it would be great to see priests preach on the topics above mentioned, however would it work in this day and age, with the ‘lukewarm’ brigade growing up and being indoctrinated by the media and through day-to-day life, that sinful behaviours are actually normal and acceptable, e.g. abortion, contraception, easier divorce and higher rates, SSM, etc, or would it distance the congregation even further.

 

[Tomdstone]

Yes, please go back over hundred years, I just need to turn to todays paper to find out how many Ukrainians,Georgians and Russians Putler has killed today.

How many innocent people in Iraq have been killed as a result of the US invasion? Is it 200,000 or so?

 

[Tomdstone]

In other words, EU does not require it.

But wait. If there is a SS marriage in France, does Serbia have to recognize it when they travel to Serbia?

 

[pepipop]

TBrightson, as you requested myself, please look at this video.

It is very distressing (as was the other) and is a young Ukrainian soldier being treated by the separatists or the ‘enemy’.

**Message from a wounded Ukrainian soldier to Poroshenko: Look at what you brought me to
**
youtube.com/watch?v=gY5EkkBD59c

 

[Tomdstone]

Which is the problem? The lack of a dictatorship that some consider moral or a lack of proper catechesis in the churches?

I say it’s the latter. When is the last time you heard a priest preach from the pulpit about chastity? About homosexuality? About pornography? “Back in the day”, I am informed, Catholics had an enormous influence on the entertainment media. If you see old movies on, say, TCM, you can see it. Why was that? It was because there was proper teaching and the priests and bishops were not hesitant to condemn or praise this show or that movie or this book or that other form of entertainment. And Catholics actually listened to them.

Would they (we) listen now? It might be a bumpy start, but over time, I think Catholics would. I say we need more gumption in the chanceries, for a start.

The Russian Orthodox Church is very clear about same sex marriage being wrong.

 

[josie_L]

Of course, the sarcasm was not being used against God. It was being used against those who would trash God’s greatest gift to us, our freedom, as it were some piddling trifling little thing, a mere annoyance to the totalitarian fascism that is the opposite choice of freedom.
Americans and the West have been born into the greatest gift that has been afforded to mankind since the beginning of recorded history, and that is the possibility of individual freedom, without god-kings and pharaohs and tin pot dictators destroying that freedom through their oppression and terror.
Freedom is a precious thing, a rare thing, a Godly thing. Truly the passion and the jealousy to protect and nurture and grow that freedom should burn brightly and with intense heat in each and every one of us who have had this gift bestowed upon us by our societies, unmerited.

Instead, it is only the ingratitude of westerners toward that freedom that is burning for so many here, who see instead Putin as God’s gift, and the fascist imperialism that he is bringing down upon his neighbours as the legitimate exercise of power in the world.

It’s so odd that some posters would advocate an autocracy, when God would never impose His will upon us.

God is the opposite of an autocrat.

 

[josie_L]

Still ‘young’ in my eyes!

Yes, I agree the media was the subtle start of the sway to get people used to the idea. We have soap operas in the UK (that are watched in Ireland), the first gay character being controversially introduced, in 1989.

Now all soaps have their obligatory gay couple, if not two - in a community of around 30 people!

That’s true, however, I still do not want Putin invading the Ukraine or making mince meat out of Europe (anymore than I want it overrun by ISIS or radical Muslims).

 

[Klemens_Hadwig]

It’s so odd that some posters would advocate an autocracy, when God would never impose His will upon us.

God is the opposite of an autocrat.

I think that you wrongly confuse the principle of autocracy with the absence of freedom. Autocracy simply means rule by a single person. Nothing more, nothing else.

Since there are neither any other gods besides our Lord, nor does our Lord submit to any entity, He could be described as the perfect Autocrat.

I think that people tend to overlook the fact that Creation, is hierarchical, even in the absence of sin.

(Personally, I think that the title Christ the Autocrat would be much more appropriate than that of King, since a king is essentially a dynastic autocrat. As far as I know, there is no Divine dynasty.)