Crisis magazine folding after current issue

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BTW, does anyone have info on the new Envoy? It seems to be asociated with Belmont Abbey College and is specifically directed at college age folks. From the sound of it. No real relationship to the defunct Envoy except for the name - or so it seems to me. The original Envoy was directed at a broad range of Catholics but the new magazine sounds to be quite focused in its target audience.
 
I just got my issue of the new Envoy in the mail today. Imagine my total-but-completely-pleased shock! I had give those guys up for lost these last three years…

The new Envoy is associated with Belmont Abbey College, but looks very much like the old Envoy to me. They may be adding more materials pertinent to college students, but that’s fine by me! Two of the most interesting (evangelical) apologetic sites on the web are Focus on the Family’s Boundless.org and TrueU.org.

A bit of trivia for you… one of Boundless and TrueU’s best writers is J. Budziszewski who converted to Catholicism in 2004.

TeresTala
 
I am getting very frustrated about the continued use of right and left in terms of Catholicism. While I admit to using the terms, and thinking that way, I think we are bringing in a divisive political which doesn’t really help the discussion.

I think ‘more orthodox’ versus ‘less otrhodox’ while clunky may be more accurate. The only times the right and left labels should really come into play is when talking about the Church’s positions taken up by the different groups.
 
By the way … stop the presses … hot news …

… Envoy Magazine is BACK!

Just got a copy in the mail yesterday. After a “hiatus” of three years or so.
 
I just got my issue of the new Envoy in the mail today. Imagine my total-but-completely-pleased shock! I had give those guys up for lost these last three years…

The new Envoy is associated with Belmont Abbey College, but looks very much like the old Envoy to me. They may be adding more materials pertinent to college students, but that’s fine by me! Two of the most interesting (evangelical) apologetic sites on the web are Focus on the Family’s Boundless.org and TrueU.org.

A bit of trivia for you… one of Boundless and TrueU’s best writers is J. Budziszewski who converted to Catholicism in 2004.

TeresTala
That’s interesting. I took the bait and went for their “free” offer.

The former Envoy was quite obviously a very expensive magazine to print. The four color thing and all. Sounds like the new Envoy is sticking to that format. That’s cool but, if push comes to shove, IMO Catholic magazines should skimp on the visuals while keeping the essentials.
 
I am getting very frustrated about the continued use of right and left in terms of Catholicism. While I admit to using the terms, and thinking that way, I think we are bringing in a divisive political which doesn’t really help the discussion.

I think ‘more orthodox’ versus ‘less otrhodox’ while clunky may be more accurate. The only times the right and left labels should really come into play is when talking about the Church’s positions taken up by the different groups.
While I tend to agree that labels generally only make things more difficult, I am not sure that trying to use (instead of right/left) things like “orthodox”, “Unorthodox” “more or less orthodox” really help matters, either. In the end, it just ends up being a debate and urination match about who’s REALLY right and most with the faith. Indeed, I sometimes grow concerned that the greater threats are not necessarily with Catholics who are so off the mark as to be obvious as to their objection to matters of serious concern in the faith but instead with those who vie to acclaim themselves as “most faithful (or orthodox).” For the latter may be expressing mere preferences or tact while insisting that it’s my way or the highway. There can be a wide and varied approach to things even within the realm of orthodoxy, afterall. Ultimately, I think that only a more extended explanation of what each publication is about, focuses upon, and their approach may be the best way of getting at what they truly are, in essence. But, until and unless we can go that far in reference (which is often not the case under normal conversational circumstances) we are stuck with the labels.
 
IMO it became a vehicle for neo-cons and not Catholicism. As in their totally unabashed front and center support for a war in Iraq that thas destroyed the Eastern Rite Catholic (Chaldean) commuity there.
That’s exactly my take on it, too. They started out great, then went all neo-conservative, and that was even before Deal Hudson’s scandal with the college freshman. Just. Ick.
 
I think this is a rather great exaggeration; there weren’t even all that many articles that dealt with issues on which the two parties had positions. They clearly were (or tried to be) orthodox and therefore anytime they included an article that dealt with (e.g.) abortion or fetal stem cell research it would inevitably put the Democrats in a bad light. I took that more as a reflection of the Democrats failure on the moral issues than a failure of Crisis to present the issues fairly.

Ender
I agree. I have subscribed to Crisis for several years and I found that they looked at things first from the Catholic moral perspective. It so happens the Democrats are the ones way off, completely abandoning any idea of morality.
 
The editorial in the July/August Crisis announces the magazine will cease publication with the September issue. Increasing postal costs, declining readership are offered as some of the reasons for the end of Crisis.

The Morley Institute website will continue to have a Crisis section with articles, commentaries and a blog.
It would be more precise to say that Crisis is moving to an online format rather than folding. I will miss the hard copy, but I respect them for “taking the bull by the horns”.
 
BTW, does anyone have info on the new Envoy? It seems to be asociated with Belmont Abbey College and is specifically directed at college age folks. From the sound of it. No real relationship to the defunct Envoy except for the name - or so it seems to me. The original Envoy was directed at a broad range of Catholics but the new magazine sounds to be quite focused in its target audience.
Hello, everyone. I’d like to clarify that the Envoy Magazine which was just recently mailed to subscribers is the same as the Envoy Magazine that I have published since 1996 and with which many of you are familiar.

Envoy is not defunct.

In fact, as I explained in more detail in my regular department in this most recent issue (vol. 7.4), we took a three-year hiatus from printing the magazine, due to a cashflow drought, but we continued to operate through our www.envoymagazine.com website.

Envoy’s new association with Belmont Abbey College (www.belmontabbeycollege.edu) is focused on the new Envoy Institute, which I direct. I also provide a lot more in the way of specifics about the Institute in this most recent issue of the magazine.

For anyone interested, we’re offering all comers a free copy of the most recent issue of Envoy (i.e., the “We’re Back” issue), as well as a free copy of my book “Search and Rescue.” We just ask that a modest S&H charge be covered. You can get all the details at www.envoymagazine.com.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify things, and please help me spread the word that Envoy is back!

Patrick
www.patrickmadrid.com
 
Hello, everyone. I’d like to clarify that the Envoy Magazine which was just recently mailed to subscribers is the same as the Envoy Magazine that I have published since 1996 and with which many of you are familiar.

Envoy is not defunct.

In fact, as I explained in more detail in my regular department in this most recent issue (vol. 7.4), we took a three-year hiatus from printing the magazine, due to a cashflow drought, but we continued to operate through our www.envoymagazine.com website.

Envoy’s new association with Belmont Abbey College (www.belmontabbeycollege.edu) is focused on the new Envoy Institute, which I direct. I also provide a lot more in the way of specifics about the Institute in this most recent issue of the magazine.

For anyone interested, we’re offering all comers a free copy of the most recent issue of Envoy (i.e., the “We’re Back” issue), as well as a free copy of my book “Search and Rescue.” We just ask that a modest S&H charge be covered. You can get all the details at www.envoymagazine.com.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify things, and please help me spread the word that Envoy is back!

Patrick
www.patrickmadrid.com
I signed up the the S&H free copy. Sounds like they are in the process of being shipped. Look forward to reading the issue.
 
Well, I heard on Catholic radio that Envoy Magazine is back.
Just got my copy, along with Patrick Madrid’s Search and Rescue. I am impressed with both and will be subscribing to ENVOY, as it does have substantial content and is more attuned to the mission that the Lord has recently given me-evangelization.

Praise God, and may He richly bless all of you.
 
Hello, everyone. I’d like to clarify that the Envoy Magazine which was just recently mailed to subscribers is the same as the Envoy Magazine that I have published since 1996 and with which many of you are familiar.

Envoy is not defunct.

In fact, as I explained in more detail in my regular department in this most recent issue (vol. 7.4), we took a three-year hiatus from printing the magazine, due to a cashflow drought, but we continued to operate through our www.envoymagazine.com website.

Envoy’s new association with Belmont Abbey College (www.belmontabbeycollege.edu) is focused on the new Envoy Institute, which I direct. I also provide a lot more in the way of specifics about the Institute in this most recent issue of the magazine.

For anyone interested, we’re offering all comers a free copy of the most recent issue of Envoy (i.e., the “We’re Back” issue), as well as a free copy of my book “Search and Rescue.” We just ask that a modest S&H charge be covered. You can get all the details at www.envoymagazine.com.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify things, and please help me spread the word that Envoy is back!

Patrick
www.patrickmadrid.com
Thank you for the information, Patrick. I’ve been wanting to get Search and Rescue for a while.
 
I am getting very frustrated about the continued use of right and left in terms of Catholicism. While I admit to using the terms, and thinking that way, I think we are bringing in a divisive political which doesn’t really help the discussion.

I think ‘more orthodox’ versus ‘less otrhodox’ while clunky may be more accurate. The only times the right and left labels should really come into play is when talking about the Church’s positions taken up by the different groups.
While I hate labels because they’re always loaded - I agree that a label with orthodoxy is better than right/left in regards to the Church.
 
Deal Hudson brought more of a political tint to Crisis because he was also acting as a political advisor. It was founded by Ralph McInerny of Notre Dame and the theologian Michael Novak. It was better before Hudson got to it.
 
Deal Hudson brought more of a political tint to Crisis because he was also acting as a political advisor. It was founded by Ralph McInerny of Notre Dame and the theologian Michael Novak. It was better before Hudson got to it.
But Hudson’s political involvement followed his involvement with Crisis, it seemed. The Bush people made ties with him because of what he was able to offer in strengthening coalition with Catholics.
 
I am getting very frustrated about the continued use of right and left in terms of Catholicism. While I admit to using the terms, and thinking that way, I think we are bringing in a divisive political which doesn’t really help the discussion.

I think ‘more orthodox’ versus ‘less otrhodox’ while clunky may be more accurate. The only times the right and left labels should really come into play is when talking about the Church’s positions taken up by the different groups.
Hey, it’s Ok to be liberal or conservative, as long as you’re orthodox. Ego tends to lead both political persuasions away from orthodoxy. How about “Orthodox” and “Heterodox” You are one or the other-like Heaven or Hell. Choose one.

Christ’s peace.
 
Got my free Envoy copy this past weekend. Its a slick magazine in terms of format, color and layout. Hope they aren’t spending too much on the package so to speak.

The contents were quite good. The Envoy Institute sounds interesting.

I notice the price has been kept the same for a years subscription but the frequencey dropped to 6 times a year. Not a big issue to me. Postage costs have gone up so much. maybe this will allow Envoy to break even assuming it gets back to its previous circulation level.

If you haven’t gone for the free offer - not quite free as you pay shipping and handling - I’d recommend it. I am giving the magazine a try and just sent out a subscription order for a year.

It is nonetheless a mystery to me that Catholic magazines struggle to get to just 15,000 or so subscribers - not even break even - when Mormon and Evangelical publications have much, much larger circulations. Despite the so called 65 million Catholics in the US.
 
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