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Ridgerunner said:
And Hillary Clinton, who sat on the board of directors for Walmart, isn’t a “corporate person”? My goodness, how much more “corporate person” can a person ever be?And she’s the champion of “climate change”, the middle class and the poor?..
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True, which is why I didn’t vote for her. (And even in the 1992 primaries I did not vote for Bill, but for Jerry Brown, and for the same reasons.)
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I don’t think anyone knows what will happen in November. The odds on favorite to win the White House is probably Hillary. But she is vulnerable if the GOP unites and votes as a block. The number of GOP primary voters this year has been amazingly high. Trump should get a lot of credit here.

Another good thing about Trump (and I rarely have good things to say about Trump), is that he has hit on this anger in a lot of Americans. No one can decide for sure whether it is economic or cultural anger, or both. I say both, but more cultural than economic. Angry white male, rural, Christian influence if not necessarily practicing - that is not just a stereotype.

What is odd is that the Sanders base does the same thing, again I think that is more hard left urban culturally driven than economics. Racism, homophobia, these are great rallying cries of the (white) left who for the most part are pretty comfortable economically, the chattering class. (The welfare state has been hugely expanded under Obama; Obamacare, gay marriage, etc.; I can’t quite figure out what is left on the left to be angry about; it is really what Catholics call “social poverty”) Or as Bill Clinton would say, “the truth hurts.” Many of the black poverty issues are cultural (self-inflicted) as well. I don’t think more intense, hate-filled left wing demagoguery is what this country needs right now. The Trump and Sanders base mentalities are the opposing sides of this cultural disintegration. Again, I blame the left more than the right. The Trumpers are the white working class marginalized reacting to the last eight years of social shifts.

None of this tension will magically disappear when Hillary takes office either.

I don’t think Cruz has a chance in hell of starting a religious revival. If the GOP does get it together enough to vote for him as the most competent conservative left in the race, and he wins (all huge “ifs”), Cruz is just going to pull the country to the right, not be a religious demagogue. Obama has us far left; Cruz gets us to center right, especially against a Democratic Senate, possibly even House.

I say he is smart enough to work the center where he will frankly be caged by circumstances pretty effectvely: he takes the pressure off of Christians, but also doesn’t impose Evangelicalism on anyone. This is not a man who wants government to tell anyone what to do. And he believes that to his “core”. He gives more power to the states (if he can). Cuts programs but doesn’t gut them. Doesn’t abolish the IRA or impose a flat tax, blah blah blah. Doesn’t patrol Muslims; doesn’t build a wall; does control illegal immigration/ISIS effectively.

He is a good choice in November because above would energize the country, alleviate tension and restore a moderate healthy cultural tolerance - in both directions. Dislodge some of this left wing craziness; revitalize the country in a more mainstream way. As a fiscal conservative, he would deal with issues like Social Security, etc. There is where the Dems come in - compromise. We do need a workable federal budget; another reason to go conservative. Foreign policy would be much more in America’s interests; America would be back on the map after much weakness and embarrassment. We would connect again with our allies and defend against our enemies. But I don’t think Cruz would land us in senseless wars. What I like about him is that the fact that he is smart. (as opposed to angry or corrupt or socialist)
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I agree with you here. We don’t need the government telling us what to do. We need Tea Party values.
 
lynnvinc said:
He also wants to get rid of the EPA, which Texas has been trying to do for sometime, bec it wants the ability to poison and kill people at will, without interference.
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I thought only a double-o could do that. :confused:
 
anon67074017 said:
A victory for Ted Cruz would lead to a religious revival in America. Christian values will be a real factor in American life again. It will be hard for Ted Cruz to win though. 23% of the population is irreligious. They will likely not vote for Ted Cruz or any Republican.
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I have a friend who is very religious and does not like Cruz. He creeps her out.
 
Ted Cruz takes stand against abortion after rape: Go after the rapist, don’t kill the baby
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Fr. Mark Hodges LifeSiteNews
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WASHINGTON, D.C., April 8, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Texas senator and presidential hopeful Ted Cruz has run as the most prolife candidate, and this week, Cruz once again boldly backed up his prolife credentials. . . .
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. . . Sen. Cruz answered Kelly by first emphasizing his compassion for rape survivors. “I’ve spent a lot of years in law enforcement,” Cruz explained. “I was the Solicitor General in the state of Texas and I have handled horrific cases of rape… I went before the U.S. Supreme Court and argued in defense of…capital punishment for the very worst child rapists.”
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“Rape is a horrific crime against the humanity of a person, and needs to be punished, and punished severely,” Cruz stated, “but at the same time, as horrible as that crime is, I don’t believe it’s the child’s fault.”
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Cruz takes the prolife stance that to kill the living, preborn child is unjust, and does not unrape a woman, but rather only answers the violence of rape with the violence of abortion. . . .
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lifesitenews.com/news/ted-cruz-takes-stand-against-abortion-after-rape-go-after-the-rapist-dont-k
 
Cathoholic said:
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It is extreme social positions like this which ensure that candidates such as Ted Cruz will never win the presidency.

The emotional and perhaps physical agony of a rape victim is only intensified by a woman’s being forced to carry the baby of her attacker to term and subsequently care for the baby. No one can argue it is the baby’s fault; but one can certainly argue it is the government’s insensitivity to the dignity of women if an abortion is not at least permitted in such circumstances, preferably very early in the pregnancy.

Cruz is out of touch, and proudly so, with the majority of the country. That is why he will not win if he should be the GOP nominee.
 
meltzerboy said:
It is extreme social positions like this which ensure that candidates such as Ted Cruz will never win the presidency.

The emotional and perhaps physical agony of a rape victim is only intensified by a woman’s being forced to carry the baby of her attacker to term and subsequently care for the baby. No one can argue it is the baby’s fault; but one can certainly argue it is the government’s insensitivity to the dignity of women if an abortion is not at least permitted in such circumstances, preferably very early in the pregnancy.

Cruz is out of touch, and proudly so, with the majority of the country. That is why he will not win if he should be the GOP nominee.
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I agree with you. Cruz talks like he lives on another planet, and in a country on that planet not as good as the US, and that’s really saying something bad about Cruz.
 
meltzerboy said:
It is extreme social positions like this which ensure that candidates such as Ted Cruz will never win the presidency.

The emotional and perhaps physical agony of a rape victim is only intensified by a woman’s being forced to carry the baby of her attacker to term and subsequently care for the baby. No one can argue it is the baby’s fault; but one can certainly argue it is the government’s insensitivity to the dignity of women if an abortion is not at least permitted in such circumstances, preferably very early in the pregnancy.

Cruz is out of touch, and proudly so, with the majority of the country. That is why he will not win if he should be the GOP nominee.
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Ted Cruz takes the position that abortion should be a states rights issue, including the issue of rape excemption and that people should convince others on the issues in regards to abortion and it should be voted on at the ballot box: mrctv.org/blog/cruz-abortion-should-be-decided-people-ballot-box
Full abortion related part on The Kelly File: video.foxnews.com/v/4831412144001/ted-cruz-public-must-decide-abortion-issue/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips

If the statistics are accurate, most raped women who become pregnant do not have an abortion. If an unborn baby is a human being, then regardless of the circumstances of how the pregnancy came about, whether it was through the loving relationship between a husband and wife or an attack in the form of rape, that baby is still a human being and worthy of protection. There are probably thousands of people living their lives in the U.S. alone who were conceived through rape and maybe to a lesser degree, incest. They were not any less a human being in the womb because of the way in which they were conceived.

Cruz probably unfortunately is out of touch with most on the issue on rape and abortion but Hilary Clinton is out of touch with most Americans on abortion too. I think she supports some third trimester restrictions and that’s it. Gallup polling from 2011 shows most people who are pro-choice even support various restrictions on abortion, including 52% supporting a ban on abortion in the second trimester: gallup.com/poll/148880/plenty-common-ground-found-abortion-debate.aspx

John McCain and Mitt Romney lost their presidential elections and they supported rape excemption. Although it’s hypothetical because they are not the nominees yet, but although Clinton is ahead of Cruz in most of the national polls, she’s ahead by 2.8 points average: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html

Considering Cruz probably has lower name ID than Clinton does, that isn’t a terrible position for him in at this point. And Cruz is doing 14 points better with Millenials than Clinton does: redalertpolitics.com/2016/03/25/fox-poll-millennials-choose-cruz-clinton-trump/
 
meltzerboy said:
It is extreme social positions like this which ensure that candidates such as Ted Cruz will never win the presidency.

The emotional and perhaps physical agony of a rape victim is only intensified by a woman’s being forced to carry the baby of her attacker to term and subsequently care for the baby. No one can argue it is the baby’s fault; but one can certainly argue it is the government’s insensitivity to the dignity of women if an abortion is not at least permitted in such circumstances, preferably very early in the pregnancy.

Cruz is out of touch, and proudly so, with the majority of the country. That is why he will not win if he should be the GOP nominee.
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Ted Cruz takes the position that abortion should be a states rights issue, including the issue of rape excemption and that people should convince others on the issues in regards to abortion and it should be voted on at the ballot box: mrctv.org/blog/cruz-abortion-should-be-decided-people-ballot-box
Full abortion related part on The Kelly File: video.foxnews.com/v/4831412144001/ted-cruz-public-must-decide-abortion-issue/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips

This states right approach would remain the case of the unborn were declared persons under the 14th amendment, which Cruz supports the unborn being protected under, does it not?

If the statistics are accurate, most raped women who become pregnant do not have an abortion. If an unborn baby is a human being, then regardless of the circumstances of how the pregnancy came about, whether it was through the loving relationship between a husband and wife or an attack in the form of rape, that baby is still a human being and worthy of protection. There are probably thousands of people living their lives in the U.S. alone who were conceived through rape and maybe to a lesser degree, incest. They were not any less a human being in the womb because of the way in which they were conceived.

Cruz probably unfortunately is out of touch with most on the issue on rape and abortion but Hilary Clinton is out of touch with most Americans on abortion too. I think she supports some third trimester restrictions and that’s it. Gallup polling from 2011 shows most people who are pro-choice even support various restrictions on abortion, including 52% supporting a ban on abortion in the second trimester: gallup.com/poll/148880/plenty-common-ground-found-abortion-debate.aspx

John McCain and Mitt Romney lost their presidential elections and they supported rape excemption. Although it’s hypothetical because they are not the nominees yet, but although Clinton is ahead of Cruz in most of the national polls, she’s ahead by 2.8 points average: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html

Is that a terrible position for him in at this point? Cruz is doing 14 points better with Millenials than Clinton does: redalertpolitics.com/2016/03/25/fox-poll-millennials-choose-cruz-clinton-trump/
 
_Abyssinia said:
Ted Cruz takes the position that abortion should be a states rights issue, including the issue of rape excemption and that people should convince others on the issues in regards to abortion and it should be voted on at the ballot box: mrctv.org/blog/cruz-abortion-should-be-decided-people-ballot-box
Full abortion related part on The Kelly File: video.foxnews.com/v/4831412144001/ted-cruz-public-must-decide-abortion-issue/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips

This states right approach would remain the case of the unborn were declared persons under the 14th amendment, which Cruz supports the unborn being protected under, does it not?

If the statistics are accurate, most raped women who become pregnant do not have an abortion. If an unborn baby is a human being, then regardless of the circumstances of how the pregnancy came about, whether it was through the loving relationship between a husband and wife or an attack in the form of rape, that baby is still a human being and worthy of protection. There are probably thousands of people living their lives in the U.S. alone who were conceived through rape and maybe to a lesser degree, incest. They were not any less a human being in the womb because of the way in which they were conceived.

Cruz probably unfortunately is out of touch with most on the issue on rape and abortion but Hilary Clinton is out of touch with most Americans on abortion too. I think she supports some third trimester restrictions and that’s it. Gallup polling from 2011 shows most people who are pro-choice even support various restrictions on abortion, including 52% supporting a ban on abortion in the second trimester: gallup.com/poll/148880/plenty-common-ground-found-abortion-debate.aspx

John McCain and Mitt Romney lost their presidential elections and they supported rape excemption. Although it’s hypothetical because they are not the nominees yet, but although Clinton is ahead of Cruz in most of the national polls, she’s ahead by 2.8 points average: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html

Is that a terrible position for him in at this point? Cruz is doing 14 points better with Millenials than Clinton does: redalertpolitics.com/2016/03/25/fox-poll-millennials-choose-cruz-clinton-trump/
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Most people, particularly women, believe that abortion should be neither a federal government issue nor a states-rights issue, but rather a women’s rights issue. Ted Cruz’ social conservatism is out of touch with the majority of people in the U. S. and, mark my words, he will therefore lose in the general election. The proof of the eating is in the pudding, however, so have him as the GOP candidate if you don’t believe me. Not so much his small-government ideology, but his far right social-conservative ideology will sink him.
 
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