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He’s the only one left to vote for in the GOP primary. Granted Kasich is still there, but he’s simply, laughably not viable and just embarrassing himself at this point.
The double standard here is quite something. Trump never had the KKK doing an ad in his favor, but was asked a gizillion times to disavow them. Cruz apparently had nothing to do with the Carson fraud, the Rubio dropping out of race lies, the anti-trump-wife and pro-cruz ad. He has nothing to do with anything. And he doesn’t have to disavow anything, ever.
 
Did you even read the context of what Beck said? You give him that much benefit of doubt? Even if you choose to do so, you can’t say others are lying because it’s highly plausible he’s talking about stabbing trump.
No, it’s not plausible. Anyone who’s listened to the show for five minutes knows how much the guys on the show insult and joke about each other. It is simply not plausible to claim to believe he was actually talking about stabbing Trump. It’s an extremely weak and desperate attempt to smear the man by using falsehood.

Bring up something truthful or with a factual basis to criticize Beck if you wish, there are plenty of things you can criticize him over. But this is just not respectable at all.
 
No, it’s not plausible. Anyone who’s listened to the show for five minutes knows how much the guys on the show insult and joke about each other. It is simply not plausible to claim to believe he was actually talking about stabbing Trump. It’s an extremely weak and desperate attempt to smear the man by using falsehood.

Bring up something truthful or with a factual basis to criticize Beck if you wish, there are plenty of things you can criticize him over. But this is just not respectable at all.
It’s not plausible because you are on his side, pure and simple.

For a seasoned talk show host like him, the least he could have done is to clarify that he was talking to the producer not about trump, if that was indeed what happened. He should have immediately realized how his words could be misunderstood, if indeed that was a misunderstanding. How obtuse did he have to be to not see that coming?
 
The double standard here is quite something. Trump never had the KKK doing an ad in his favor, but was asked a gizillion times to disavow them. Cruz apparently had nothing to do with the Carson fraud, the Rubio dropping out of race lies, the anti-trump-wife and pro-cruz ad. He has nothing to do with anything. And he doesn’t have to disavow anything, ever.
Donald Trump brought the KKK problem on himself when he refused to denounce David Duke several times, and even pretended to not know who he was, which was a lie. If he had just said I repudiate David Duke and want nothing to do with him, it would have been a dead issue. But his lying about not knowing him was the problem.

The Carson rumor came from a report and broadcast of CNN. People ran with it. If Dr. Carson didn’t want people thinking he was dropping out, then he should have made a formal announcement of his travel plans, since he was heading home and that’s always been a sign a candidate is dropping out.

The Rubio rumors were again, based on a story by CNN. Cruz’s people in Hawaii pushed the story in their state. If you want to criticize him over that, fine. But it wasn’t like the campaign made it up out of thin air.
 
It’s not plausible because you are on his side, pure and simple.

For a seasoned talk show host like him, the least he could have done is to clarify that he was talking to the producer not about trump, if that was indeed what happened. He should have immediately realized how his words could be misunderstood, if indeed that was a misunderstanding. How obtuse did he have to be to not see that coming?
It’s not plausible to anyone, except for those who support Trump it seems. It is clear to any reasonable person that he was joking to Stu. When the Trump people ran with it, Stu himself posted the clip on social media and pointed out it was clearly a snarky comeback aimed at Stu. They DID clarify that he wasn’t talking about stabbing Trump, as soon as the Trump people ran with it. So I don’t see where you are coming with this line that he didn’t clarify. Even experienced talk radio hosts can’t imagine every silly and fevered way that people are going to intentionally misinterpret what they say.
 
And the claims that there were no Muslim neighborhoods in America are ridiculous. Dearborn Michigan, Hamtramck Michigan, Paterson New Jersey, Astoria in Queens, Bridgeview Illinois, Cedar-Riverside Minneapolis are just a few.
 
He’s the only one left to vote for in the GOP primary. Granted Kasich is still there, but he’s simply, laughably not viable and just embarrassing himself at this point.
I think Kasich’s chances of winning are about the same as Gov Huckabee’s were at this same point 8 years ago. The big difference is that Huckabee was in second, not third.
 
Thanks for being an eminent presence on this forum to ensure the quality of our discussion.

Lord have mercy on the rest of us, indeed!
Let’s dispense with the personal remarks as per forum rules.
Do you agree with Cruz’s statement that Muslim neighborhoods in the US should be routinely ‘patrolled’ and ‘secured’?
 
Bring up something truthful or with a factual basis to criticize Beck if you wish, there are plenty of things you can criticize him over. But this is just not respectable at all.
What is not respectable is to threaten to stab someone, whoever it is. Here is the quote: “If I was close enough and had a knife, really… the stabbing just wouldn’t stop.” I don’t think that murder is something to joke about.
 
What is not respectable is to threaten to stab someone, whoever it is. Here is the quote: “If I was close enough and had a knife, really… the stabbing just wouldn’t stop.” I don’t think that murder is something to joke about.
It is particularly irresponsible for a public figure to joke about assassinating a presidential candidate.
 
Misinformation or demagoguery?
The truth of the matter is plainly known and evident. Those who keep repeating the falsehood are attempting to misinform others.
What is not respectable is to threaten to stab someone, whoever it is. Here is the quote: “If I was close enough and had a knife, really… the stabbing just wouldn’t stop.” I don’t think that murder is something to joke about.
You can feel that way if you choose. For the rest of us, we recognize it as a joke between two longtime friends that is in no way serious.
It is particularly irresponsible for a public figure to joke about assassinating a presidential candidate.
It’s clear that didn’t happen. So why are you asserting that it did and spreading falsehood?
 
Do you agree with Cruz’s statement that Muslim neighborhoods in the US should be routinely ‘patrolled’ and ‘secured’?
Yes, I think so. When children and innocent people are threatened, and a brutal war is declared against children, then I think that the security has to be increased to protect innocent children and innocent civilians. Have you heard about the Beslan massacre? The massacre in Paris, in Belgium, in San Bernadino, in Boston? If they are at war against innocent people, then what? I don’t think that they should be allowed to proceed with their massacres of innocent men, women and children?
 
The truth of the matter is plainly known and evident. Those who keep repeating the falsehood are attempting to misinform others.

You can feel that way if you choose. For the rest of us, we recognize it as a joke between two longtime friends that is in no way serious.

It’s clear that didn’t happen. So why are you asserting that it did and spreading falsehood?
It is not clear to me, and it seems its not clear to most people.
 
Let’s dispense with the personal remarks as per forum rules.
Do you agree with Cruz’s statement that Muslim neighborhoods in the US should be routinely ‘patrolled’ and ‘secured’?
That was a terrible thing he said, but I note he did back off that position a little, or clarified it, to be neighborhoods know to foster militant Muslims. This is still an impractical begging of the question, but a little improvement.
 
People don’t seem to want to discuss the issues.
Abortion, and war against children and innocent civilians are issues that need discussion, and people are discussing them. Many people fear for the safety of their children and loved ones and want to enact measures to prevent tragedies and prevent the murder of innocent men,women and children, such as we have seen in Beslan, Belgium, Paris, San Bernadino and Boston. And many people are repelled by the defense of partial birth abortion.
 
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