Daily Mass questions re altar servers and EHMCs

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From the General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM), from the section “Mass Without a Deacon”:

“139. When the Prayer of the Faithful is completed, all sit, and the Offertory chant begins (cf. no. 74).
An acolyte or other lay minister arranges the corporal, the purificator, the chalice, the pall, and the Missal upon the altar.”

Regarding the interpretation of “lay minister” here to mean an EMHC, rather than an altar server.

Both tend to be described as the same in the GIRM: “100. In the absence of an instituted acolyte, lay ministers may be deputed to serve at the altar and assist the priest and the deacon; they may carry the cross, the candles, the thurible, the bread, the wine, and the water, and they may also be deputed to distribute Holy Communion as extraordinary ministers.”

“107. The liturgical duties that are not proper to the priest or the deacon and are listed in nos. 100- 106 may also be entrusted by a liturgical blessing or a temporary deputation to suitable lay persons chosen by the pastor or rector of the church.89 [footnote: 89
Cf. Pontifical Commission for Interpreting Legal Texts, response to dubium regarding can. 230 § 2: AAS 86 (1994), page 541] All should observe the norms established by the Bishop for his diocese regarding the duties of those who serve the priest at the altar.”

So if the bishop has a policy of only male altar servers, then there should only be male altar servers. Can the bishop have a similar policy of only male EMHCs? I do not think so.

The 1973 Instruction Immensae caritatis has (at ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDWIMCAR.HTM ):
“IV. The fit person referred to in nos. I and II will be designated according to the order of this listing (which may be changed at the prudent discretion of the local Ordinary): reader, major seminarian, man religious, woman religious, catechist, one of the faithful—a man or a woman.”

So it seems that a man religious is to be chosen ahead of woman religious. But a man is not to be chosen ahead of a women.

So it seems to me that a bishop can decide he will only have male altar servers. But not that he will only have male EMHCs. The task of arranging “the corporal, the purificator, the chalice, the pall, and the Missal upon the altar” is clearly service at the altar, the task of the altar server, rather than the task of the EMHC.

Regarding the issue of some “policy” or “preference” for a person doing only one ministry in a particular ceremony. The first preferred person to become an EMHC in this list is a reader. It is referring to an Instituted Reader (i.e. Instituted Lector). That person is expected to read at the Mass, so it seems to have no problem with him also being an EMHC at a Mass.
From the GIRM:
“109. If there are several persons present who are able to exercise the same ministry, nothing forbids their distributing among themselves and performing different parts of the same ministry or duty. For example, one deacon may be assigned to take the sung parts, another to serve at the altar; if there are several readings, it is well to distribute them among a number of lectors. The same applies for the other ministries. But it is not at all appropriate that several persons divide a single element of the celebration among themselves, e.g., that the same reading be proclaimed by two lectors, one after the other, except as far as the Passion of the Lord is concerned.
110. If only one minister is present at a Mass with a congregation, that minister may exercise several different duties.”
 
@ Fr. and Mr. Lilburne: Upon further consultation with my bride, and clarification of the position of the priest who is usually serving the morning Mass, it appears he is taking the position that GIRM 100, when it refers to “lay ministers”, it is referring to EMHCs, only, and not altar servers. When my bride questioned how he knows that interpretation is correct, he got agitated and in a loud voice told her to ‘ask a bishop’.

I do not see how any reasonable reading of the GIRM could support that position, but there it is. He apparently genuinely believes this. Perhaps because GIRM 100 says that “these carry the cross, the candles, the thurible, the bread, the wine, and the water, or who are even deputed to distribute Holy Communion as extraordinary ministers” but does not, in that list, include preparing the altar, if I am using the proper term; although it does state serve at the altar in the first part of that sentence: “In the absence of an instituted acolyte, there may be deputed lay ministers to serve at the altar”.

It seems to me read as a whole the ‘lay ministers’ in GIRM 100 includes altar servers, who may be men or women, boys or girls, and they assist the priest in preparing the altar. They may also be EMHCs as needed. If there are enough people to perform all separate functions, they should only perform one function. Does this seem correct?

All that being said, the celebrating priest may allow the EMHCs to act as altar servers in preparing the altar (even if that means the actual altar server, i.e., my son, has nothing to do at that point) - - is that also correct? Again, if this is a matter of preferences and/or less than ideal practice, but not an actual ‘error’, so to speak, I do not want to push it.

Also, I realize the GIRM is not a USCCB document, but a universal Church document; I was only using internet shorthand because that is where the link/cite to it was from.

Thank you again to all who have taken the time to respond.
 
Also, I realize the GIRM is not a USCCB document, but a universal Church document;
Technically, the IGMR (in Latin) is a universal Church document. The GIRM is the working set of instructions for a particular country. There are minor variations of some of the provisions between the U.S. and the U.K. for example.
 
@ Fr. and Mr. Lilburne: Upon further consultation with my bride, and clarification of the position of the priest who is usually serving the morning Mass, it appears he is taking the position that GIRM 100, when it refers to “lay ministers”, it is referring to EMHCs, only, and not altar servers. When my bride questioned how he knows that interpretation is correct, he got agitated and in a loud voice told her to ‘ask a bishop’.

I do not see how any reasonable reading of the GIRM could support that position, but there it is. He apparently genuinely believes this. Perhaps because GIRM 100 says that “these carry the cross, the candles, the thurible, the bread, the wine, and the water, or who are even deputed to distribute Holy Communion as extraordinary ministers” but does not, in that list, include preparing the altar, if I am using the proper term; although it does state serve at the altar in the first part of that sentence: “In the absence of an instituted acolyte, there may be deputed lay ministers to serve at the altar”.

It seems to me read as a whole the ‘lay ministers’ in GIRM 100 includes altar servers, who may be men or women, boys or girls, and they assist the priest in preparing the altar. They may also be EMHCs as needed. If there are enough people to perform all separate functions, they should only perform one function. Does this seem correct?

All that being said, the celebrating priest may allow the EMHCs to act as altar servers in preparing the altar (even if that means the actual altar server, i.e., my son, has nothing to do at that point) - - is that also correct? Again, if this is a matter of preferences and/or less than ideal practice, but not an actual ‘error’, so to speak, I do not want to push it.

Also, I realize the GIRM is not a USCCB document, but a universal Church document; I was only using internet shorthand because that is where the link/cite to it was from.

Thank you again to all who have taken the time to respond.
All I can say is that the logic is backwards.

EMHC is not some kind of permanent, certainly not necessary, function. Technically speaking, no one is an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion until after the Lamb of God, and no one remains an EMHC once the post-Communion prayer begins. Unless they are actually and actively engaged in assisting the priest to distribute Communion, they are potential EMHC’s.

To say that “EMHCs can be servers” is completely backwards. Rather, servers may be appointed as EMHCs when the time comes.

What I see as the real problem here is the mentality that EMHCs are some kind of permanent office.

Is his interpretation wrong? I can say that what you describe as his interpretation is certainly wrong.

But in the end, it does not matter because appointing all the lay functions at Mass is still the right of every priest-celebrant for that particular Mass. Regardless of whether his reasoning or his motivation is correct, those are his appointments to make. Everything he is doing is within the rubrics. He is not, just for example, having the potential EMHCs proclaim the Gospel (which would be a violation).

For that reason, showing him the rubrics or the GIRM will not advance your cause. Even if he misunderstands the GIRM, the end result is the same.

If he simply said “I don’t want the youth servers assisting with the preparation of the altar, instead I choose to have the adult servers do that” he would be within his rights. Essentially that is what he’s saying (after all, it’s what he’s doing), he is just using different words.
 
FrDavid96 wrote: “But in the end, it does not matter because appointing all the lay functions at Mass is still the right of every priest-celebrant for that particular Mass.”

In #21 I quoted the General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM) on this: “107. The liturgical duties that are not proper to the priest or the deacon and are listed in nos. 100- 106 may also be entrusted by a liturgical blessing or a temporary deputation to suitable lay persons chosen by the pastor or rector of the church.89 [footnote: 89 Cf. Pontifical Commission for Interpreting Legal Texts, response to dubium regarding can. 230 § 2: AAS 86 (1994), page 541]. All should observe the norms established by the Bishop for his diocese regarding the duties of those who serve the priest at the altar.”

So this where I think the sentence from FrDavid96 is incorrect:
  1. It is the decision of the pastor or rector of the church, not “every priest-celebrant for that particular Mass.”
  2. It is the lay functions of 100-106, which does not include the instituted lectors and instituted acolytes, which are in paragraphs 98 and 99. It is not correct to appoint someone else to do the tasks of the instituted acolyte when the instituted acolyte is present.
  3. The Priest needs to obey the Bishop, so the Priest may be limited to male altar servers if the Bishop has decided this.
GIRM 111 has:
“111. … This should take place under the direction of the rector of the church and after consultation with the faithful in things that directly pertain to them. However, the Priest who presides at the celebration always retains the right of arranging those things that pertain to him.”

In 1980 the instruction was given “Women are not, however, permitted to act as altar servers.” (n. 18 of Inaestimabile Donum, at ewtn.com.au/library/PAPALDOC/JP2INAES.HTM ). Women could be EMHCs but not altar servers. If such an instruction was given tomorrow it would be wrong for women EMHCs to place the corporal, the purificator, the chalice, the pall, and the Missal on the altar, after the Prayer of the Faithful. They would be doing the task of the altar server, not the EMHC.

Some other quotes that may help in this situation.

In the Order of Mass of the Roman Missal the sentence is: “21. … Meanwhile, the ministers place the corporal, the purificator, the chalice, the pall, and the Missal on the altar.”

From the GIRM, in the section “Mass With a Deacon” it has: “178. After the Universal Prayer, while the Priest remains at the chair, the Deacon prepares the altar, assisted by the acolyte, but it is the Deacon’s place to take care of the sacred vessels himself.”

In the Ceremonial of Bishops, for the Stational Mass of the Diocesan Bishop, it has: “145 … The deacons and acolytes arrange the corporal, purificator, cup and The Roman Missal (Sacramentary) on the altar.” (From page 55 of edition published by Liturgical Press, 1989, ISBN 0814618189 ).

Some quotes from the GIRM indicating what Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion do:

"98. The acolyte is instituted to serve at the altar and to assist the priest and deacon. In particular, it is his responsibility to prepare the altar and the sacred vessels and, if it is necessary, as an extraordinary minister, to distribute the Eucharist to the faithful.84
  1. In the absence of an instituted acolyte, lay ministers may be deputed to serve at the altar and assist the priest and the deacon; they may carry the cross, the candles, the thurible, the bread, the wine, and the water, and they may also be deputed to distribute Holy Communion as extraordinary ministers.85
  2. The priest may be assisted in the distribution of Communion by other priests who happen to be present. If such priests are not present and there is a very large number of communicants, the priest may call upon extraordinary ministers to assist him, i.e., duly instituted acolytes or even other faithful who have been deputed for this purpose.97 In case of necessity, the priest may depute suitable faithful for this single occasion.98
  3. A duly instituted acolyte, as an extraordinary minister, may, if necessary, assist the priest in giving Communion to the people.
  4. When Communion is distributed under both kinds: a. the chalice is usually administered by a deacon or, when no deacon is present, by a priest, or even by a duly instituted acolyte or another extraordinary minister of Holy Communion, or by a member of the faithful who, in case of necessity, has been entrusted with this duty for a single occasion;"
 
FrDavid96 wrote: “But in the end, it does not matter because appointing all the lay functions at Mass is still the right of every priest-celebrant for that particular Mass.”

In #21 I quoted the General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM) on this: “107. The liturgical duties that are not proper to the priest or the deacon and are listed in nos. 100- 106 may also be entrusted by a liturgical blessing or a temporary deputation to suitable lay persons chosen by the pastor or rector of the church.89 [footnote: 89 Cf. Pontifical Commission for Interpreting Legal Texts, response to dubium regarding can. 230 § 2: AAS 86 (1994), page 541]. All should observe the norms established by the Bishop for his diocese regarding the duties of those who serve the priest at the altar.”

So this where I think the sentence from FrDavid96 is incorrect:
  1. It is the decision of the pastor or rector of the church, not “every priest-celebrant for that particular Mass.”
  2. It is the lay functions of 100-106, which does not include the instituted lectors and instituted acolytes, which are in paragraphs 98 and 99. It is not correct to appoint someone else to do the tasks of the instituted acolyte when the instituted acolyte is present.
  3. The Priest needs to obey the Bishop, so the Priest may be limited to male altar servers if the Bishop has decided this.
Of course, I mean “according to the norm of law.”

No, a priest cannot appoint a layperson to proclaim the Gospel or preach.

But within the norms already established, it is indeed the right of every priest celebrant to exercise the options given to him in the Roman Missal.

Just as it is his right to choose a Eucharistic Prayer, within the norms, it is his right to choose how the laity function, so long as he is choosing according to the norms. That is what he is doing. He is within his rights.

What I have seen describes as to what the priest is doing, they are all his decisions.

I am not addressing issues that have no relevance to the thread, such as what is done if there is an Instituted Acolyte.
 
I am a woman in my 70’s. I grew up when Mass was chanted in Latin, only males (young or older) were permitted to be Servers at the Altar with the Priest. No girls. This changed after Vatican II. Gradually, women were permitted to become trained as Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist, or older teens. Also, young girls who had made their First Communion were permitted to become Altar Servers.

I am currently a Sacristan at my Parish, but I also serve as an EMHC, as well as scheduling the Lay Ministers (Ushers, Lectors, Servers, EMHC’s). We have a wonderful Music Director (female) with a Degree in Voice/Music who acts as Cantor. The secondary Parish (we have our original Parish Church on a hillside, not accessible to handicapped or elderly) and the Secondary Parish is held at our Parish Center, which is all on one level, and is attended mainly by visitors (we have a large volume of tourists), many in wheelchairs, a very large group of elderly with canes or walkers, and some who simply like the Mass there. We only have Mass on Saturday Evenings (Vigil Mass) and sometimes the second Mass on Holy Days so the handicapped and elderly can attend. I prepare everything on the Credence Table prior to Mass (usually an hour prior to Mass). I then make sure we have at least one Usher, since we now have the Rosary prior to the Vigil Mass, led by our Cantor. I sometimes serve as a scheduled EMHC at the Vigil Mass, and have also served as an Usher or second Server during the Communion distribution. This is because during certain times of the year, we have a large congregation with visitors and tourists and many of our regularly trained EMHC’s are on vacations to visit children and grandchildren. We have only one young boy to be Server, so we often use an elderly man who has been a Server for over 50 years at various times, since he was about 9 or 10 years old. Occasionally we have to use a woman who is also an EMHC as Server, but when she is acting as Server, she is not also an EMHC at that Mass, but only as Server with the Priest. We did have two teen girls as Servers for several years, but they are now gone to college. Once the boy was old enough and trained, I schedule him as often as possible. His younger sister will make her First Holy Communion soon, and may also be trained as a Server. His father serves about twice a month as an EMHC, and prefers not to be a Server. (He’s 6’ 8" ad feels awkward, since he’s taller than any Priest we’ve ever had!) We have no Deacon now, our last one died several years ago. We have less than 10 children who are regular members with their parents, and most are either toddlers or college students who are only here on breaks.

I am so glad I lived long enough to be allowed the privilege to assist in any capacity at Mass, since this was not an option when I was a child and a girl. I am also a former Franciscan Sister, and remain a Third Order Secular Franciscan. I am well trained as an EMHC, and was Sacristan in the Convent as well. Unfortunately, we have had a couple of priests in the past 20 years who would not permit a female to be EMHC, which resulted in only the Priest distributing the Host at most Masses, and no Servers at the Vigil Mass, since we had no young boys at our Secondary Parish who were old enough to serve. We use two EMHC’s for the Chalice, as we offer the Holy Communion under both Species here, and in the past 3 years we now again have a “Host Minister” who assists in distributing the Holy Communion Hosts at Vigil and Sunday Masses. When the number of visitors pushed us up over 120 at the Vigil Mass, our previous Priest said he did need the help in the distribution. Daily Masses are under the Specie of the Host only, since few attend at the old Church, which involves going down and up a long hill during the week. Sometimes the situation requires changes, and our Bishop has permitted this, but does require full training and we make sure that training emphasizes the proper reverence for the Holy Mass. It is a blessing that we have volunteers who are willing to be available two or three Saturdays a month most of the year. Most, unfortunately are women, probably because the men either don’t want to or because so many of our female parishioners outnumber the men, as they are widows. We have gained some male converts in the past couple of years, and they preferred to begin as Ushers, but hope some will begin to train as Servers or EMHC’s. We do have several men willing to serve as Lectors, which is good. Each Parish must make adjustments, but careful to remain within the Rubrics and the guidance of our Bishop. Good luck with your son becoming a Server! God Bless him for wanting to serve at the Altar of Our Lord!
 
The Priest may see things this way. I am not saying they are justifiable reasons. But perhaps appreciating them may help with the discussions. The Priest’s thoughts may be:

In many places the Priest Celebrant is the one incorrectly putting the corporal, chalice etc. on the altar. I am doing better than many by having a lay person doing it, as the Roman Missal directs.

I have achieved this by having a routine of the Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion do this. I would not expect to have a proper altar server (in the entrance procession and sitting in the sanctuary) at more than 5% of the Masses I celebrate.

The General Instruction of the Roman Missal describes the reader as being in the entrance procession and sitting in the sanctuary. In the description of the Introductory Rites it has: “195. Upon reaching the altar, the lector makes a profound bow with the others. If he is carrying the Book of the Gospels, he approaches the altar and places the Book of the Gospels upon it. Then the lector takes his own place in the sanctuary with the other ministers.” But in fact it is very rare to see this happen. In nearly all Masses the lector sits with the congregation, entering the sanctuary only to do the readings. Why should it be any different for the altar server?

There are not many volunteers to wear vestments, be in the entrance procession and sit in the sanctuary for the whole of Mass. They can be a distraction sitting in the sanctuary.
 
I’ve attended Mass in parishes where the readers and EMHCs are in the entrance procession and sit in the sanctuary and in parishes where the EMHCs and readers come from the congregation. I don’t find one more distracting than the other. In my present parish the readers and EMHCs are seated in the congregation.

At daily Mass (~6-10 people in attendance) there are no servers and deacons are as rare as hen’s teeth in my diocese. The credence table with everything that Fr. needs is right next to the altar and Fr. does everything himself. The reader comes from the congregation.

Often at the Saturday evening Mass there is no server. In that case, one of three people from the congregation – the two women who train the servers or the gentleman who serves as thurifer at major celebrations – goes to prepare the altar and assists Fr. through the Consecration then returns to his/her pew. I don’t understand why they don’t simply vest in a proper alb and serve through the whole Mass. I’d like to propose that we purchase a few new albs for just that purpose. Then we could also train a few more adults to serve when no youth servers are available. I’m used to vested adults serving, my dad served from the time he was 12 until he was 40 (from the mid 30s to the early 50s, vested in cassock and surplice) then again for several years after he retired in the (70s & 80s, vested in an alb).
 
OK, kind of a long-drawn out thing here. My bride and our kids attend daily Mass most days at our local parish. My son is now old enough to serve, and he does serve often. However, there appears to be some confusion as to the roles of all those assisting at Mass, in whatever capacity, as I will try to describe.
Historically it appears that the EHMCs were also essentially functioning as acolytes, or perhaps it is more accurate to say as altar servers. Prior to my son being trained as an altar server, I do not think there were altar-server-aged kids attending daily Mass too often, as school is already in session or close to it (we homeschool).
Anyhoo, the EHMCs seem to be very reluctant to let my son actually serve at the altar. They also do not like to let the deacon, when he is there, prepare the altar either. I don’t think I am using the terms entirely correctly, but I hope you get the idea. They want to set the altar and assist the priest. It has gotten to the point where the other day one of the usual EHMCs was sitting in the first pew, although she was not serving, and she slid down that pew and was whispering to the EHMCs “you go set the table”. On the day this happened, a deacon was present along with my son. One of the EHMCs tried to quiet the first lady. Unfortunately we were right behind them, and I think both my bride and I leaned over the pew to say, no, the deacon is there (thinking may be they forgot the procedure?). One of the EHMCs turned around to my wife and said, “Incorrect! Each church does it differently” and something like “until you interfered” because we had addressed letting my son actually serve with Fr. (the assistant pastor) before.

Fr. takes the position, I think, that when the deacon is there, he is to serve, but he also interprets the GIRM that ‘other lay ministers’ means only EHMCs. I don’t think that is right. I think, in the absence of an instituted acolyte, other adults, boys, and girls can be altar servers, per the GIRM. Those servers can also be EHMCs if properly trained and needed at that Mass. But it does not make sense to me that when there actually is an altar server that the EHMCs should take over that role.

Wow, long enough. Anyone have any thoughts on what the correct procedure is per the GIRM when there is a) no acolyte b) boy altar server c) no deacon and d) EHMCs? Who does what? References to GIRM or interpretations thereof appreciated.
GIRM

Other Functions
  1. In the absence of an instituted acolyte, there may be deputed lay ministers to serve at the altar and assist the Priest and the Deacon; these carry the cross, the candles, the thurible, the bread, the wine, and the water, or who are even deputed to distribute Holy Communion as extraordinary ministers.[84]
    http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-wor...n-missal/girm-chapter-3.cfm#footnote-10010-84

    usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/general-instruction-of-the-roman-missal/girm-chapter-3.cfm
 
I am an EMHC in my parish, and have been for many years. The majority of those who do that role in my parish are women. I wish more men would take on that particular Mass ministry as it is a great privilege and honor but we can’t force them. My church has a Wednesday noon daily Mass only during the week but I have no idea how ministers are scheduled, most likely our priest and pastoral admin know who do the work on weekends & recruit volunteers unless they make themselves known that they can assist (as I work during that time and can’t go to it).

Our parish is trying to get young people more involved in doing altar server type tasks but lately its been more of a holy day or something like Easter / Christmas where they are present. Hopefully the young people will answer the call to serve in church ministry as so many of our current ministers are senior citizens (or close to that age range). Other parishes I go to, there will be altar servers that are both boys and girls, some will reserve the altar serving to males only (male servers only of course at Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgies and the EF/TLM).

At Daily Masses, it all depends on where I go and how they do things. Some churches that have a Catholic school nearby will allow 1 or 2 boys to come serve at the morning Mass. Certainly, the students will fill certain roles for the daily or weekly all school Masses such as servers, lectors, etc. Other places that do not have a nearby Catholic school, the server will just be an adult member of the laity (but not always wearing a white robe).
 
@pianistclare: we did speak to Fr. privately. He does not consistently make his expectations clear, which is a problem because apparently at least some of the EMHCs think the server is not allowed to handle the sacred vessels, and sound like they are scandalized almost when my son prepares the altar. **They also resist sitting in the pews rather than on the altar. ** Yes, there seems to be some “owning” of the liturgy going on.
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:eek: You gotta be kidding me.
 
:eek: You gotta be kidding me.
Are you referring to sitting “on the altar”? That’s colloquial for “sitting in the sanctuary.” They use that expression in my community too, which is how the Book of Gospels ended up on the floor after the entrance procession at Mass one Sunday. I’d told the returning student to put it on the altar when she got to the front of the church. She thought it should have been put “on the table” but since I had told her “on the altar” and she’d checked to be sure she’d heard correctly, then on the floor of the sanctuary it went – “on the altar”, in front of “the table.” 🤷
 
Are you referring to sitting “on the altar”? That’s colloquial for “sitting in the sanctuary.” They use that expression in my community too, which is how the Book of Gospels ended up on the floor after the entrance procession at Mass one Sunday. I’d told the returning student to put it on the altar when she got to the front of the church. She thought it should have been put “on the table” but since I had told her “on the altar” and she’d checked to be sure she’d heard correctly, then on the floor of the sanctuary it went – “on the altar”, in front of “the table.” 🤷
No, I was shocked at the EMHCs sitting anywhere but the pews. They don’t belong with the altar servers and they don’t belong with the priest and deacon. They don’t belong anywhere in the sanctuary.
 
No, I was shocked at the EMHCs sitting anywhere but the pews. They don’t belong with the altar servers and they don’t belong with the priest and deacon. They don’t belong anywhere in the sanctuary.
In many parishes the readers and the EMHCs sit in the sanctuary.
 
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