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These cases are so rare as to be exceptions and not statistically relevant. Of course everyone believes that they ARE that exception, and that a mixed/blended/messed up and confused family won’t cause heartache in THEIR case. And yet, the OP has been honest here, and that is what most women who haven’t had children truly feel - that the husband’s prior children are NOT part of HER life and shouldn’t be. The kids of the prior marriage become obstacles to her “fresh” start with this man. And Daddy, wanting to keep his new wife happy, acquiesces to her demands to minimize his time and financial outgo to his previous children. Sometimes, Daddy even moves away with his new family, leaving his prior children abandoned.

No, I stand by my statement. If a divorce happens, the two parents owe it to the children to stay alone for as long as the children are in the house, and just continue to be parents. After that, go for it. You probably won’t be having more children at that point unless you pick a much younger spouse (female).

It’s not the childrens’ fault that you got a divorce, so why should they suffer?
Oh, I agree that for most people, they are not the exception to the rule, as I think most families aren’t successful with this (although that is only based on my experience with those I know or know of… not with any kind of stats). I just have a tendency to want to include the exception with almost any subject, however rare it might be.
 
I actually heard a guy say, “But what about my happiness?” I could have ripped his…
Face off? Yep, I’d have had a hard time not opening a can of whoop…on that fool.

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NO, it is about seeing if there is some kind of possible compromise
No you are called to love his child as your own. How can you claim to love him if you do not love his child? His child is a part of him.
Well… the sad truth is marrying a man with a child does change the dynamics. Having an extra kid in the house every second week end can cause a source of resentments for both his son and future kids. Just because 2 adults love each other enough to get married does not mean the kids have to like each other
These future kids–if any–will take their cues from the adults in the house. If you treat his son as your own and accord him the dignity and worth he is due as a child of God–there will be no resentment but only love. These future kids would know his son as their brother not as some stranger who comes everyother week.
I disagree. If I end up making more financial sacrifices like not having a car and buying second hand clothes so we can pay the rent and he has a car and nice clothes all the extra money we have because I sacrificed is going to his son that is not fair to me. Should he not be the one to make those sacrifices?
Why do you assume he will get nice clothes and a car and all the extra money. My own daughter didn’t get her own car when she went to school because we couldn’t afford it. Listen to yourself–you’ve got yourself eating mac & cheese, wearing worn out clothes and walking everywhere and digging in the couch cushins for spare change in order to feed the wicked step son caviar and champagne while buying him designer clothes and a car and giving him all the pocket change he desires. Time for a reality check. You are supposed to love others–that means desiring the best for them. Look at Christ on the cross and ask yourself where you would be if Christ had said "that is not fair to me. Should [heaven456] not be the one to make [this sacrifice]?
No it is NOT sad. That kid will never call me mommy. That kid may even resent me for taking daddy away from mommy. The reality is, I don’t hold high hopes that this kid will accept me in his life. And it IS some other woman’s child. She will always be the one he thinks of when he hears the word ‘mother’. It is sad for me that this kid may never like me.
That kid will never call you mommy with your current attitude, but that doesn’t have to be the case. I know several kids who do indeed call their step mom mom. You’ve given no indication that you plan to do anything to make this child like you. You have to be the grownup because you are the grownup–its you job to love this child even if it is not recipricated–again look at Christ on the cross.

Remember its all about Jesus not you. You did it to me–remember what you do for this child you do for Jesus.

Peace,
Mark
 
No you are called to love his child as your own. How can you claim to love him if you do not love his child? His child is a part of him.

These future kids–if any–will take their cues from the adults in the house. If you treat his son as your own and accord him the dignity and worth he is due as a child of God–there will be no resentment but only love. These future kids would know his son as their brother not as some stranger who comes everyother week.

Why do you assume he will get nice clothes and a car and all the extra money. My own daughter didn’t get her own car when she went to school because we couldn’t afford it. Listen to yourself–you’ve got yourself eating mac & cheese, wearing worn out clothes and walking everywhere and digging in the couch cushins for spare change in order to feed the wicked step son caviar and champagne while buying him designer clothes and a car and giving him all the pocket change he desires. Time for a reality check. You are supposed to love others–that means desiring the best for them. Look at Christ on the cross and ask yourself where you would be if Christ had said "that is not fair to me. Should [heaven456] not be the one to make [this sacrifice]?

That kid will never call you mommy with your current attitude, but that doesn’t have to be the case. I know several kids who do indeed call their step mom mom. You’ve given no indication that you plan to do anything to make this child like you. You have to be the grownup because you are the grownup–its you job to love this child even if it is not recipricated–again look at Christ on the cross.

Remember its all about Jesus not you. You did it to me–remember what you do for this child you do for Jesus.

Peace,
Mark
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I NEVER said he should dump the kid. The reality is, that I will NEVER be the kids mom and that the kid is someone other woman’s child
Yep, you will never be his mom. But if you can manage to let your extreme selfishness go you may become a cherished member of his family. And maybe if you treat him the way the flesh and blood of your husband deserves to be treated you’ll be a grandmother to his children.

My fiance’s mom remarried when he was an adult. So not only is his mom’s husband not his father, he isn’t really even a stepfather. But his mom’s husband has been around longer than I have, so as far as I’m concerned I’m getting two FILs. I’m actually closer to his mom’s husband than anyone else in his family. And of course because he’s married to our future children’s grandmother and he’s such a wonderful person he will get to be called grandpa and be given all the honors of such.
 
I have perhaps a different point of view than many here, since I have two stepchildren (now grown). There are parts of what the OP says that I understand. You WILL sacrifice things for your husband’s child. And you need to be willing to do that without resentment. BUT, this is where it was a real challenge for me… your own children if you have them, will also sacrifice.

For us, it was financial. Because of child support which was a set amount, our own children suffered. Oh we had food on the table, but things like… I had to go back to work and couldn’t stay home with the children because that extra money was something we couldn’t afford on just his salary. The other children had a big extended family and I did my best to be supportive of everything of them and their lives. Their mother had a solid marriage and that always came first because they lived with her most of the time. So we had to work around THEIR schedules, and there was a lot of internal tension for me. We always had to work around when those children could meet with us and we were always taking what was “left over” after their mother and her side of the family took what they wanted. So if they had an extended family dinner for holidays for example, we took what was left over whether it inconvenienced us and my side of the family or not.

On the surface everything was fine and we were all (all four adults) respectful and cordial. His ex even babysat for our kids at times because we had no close by family. But it is true, there are a LOT of issues you will need to deal with. Discipline of children is one–how will you as a step-parent handle that? Regarding college, it’s a good thing to think about now. In our case, our own children we could not afford to send to private colleges. We only paid for public college with help from my parents. But his children were sent to private college and of course, we were expected to pay part of the bill. It didn’t match our values but we had no say. Then there are weddings later when they happen and the awkwardness there, etc., etc. And it is true, they never called me “mother”. But then I never expected them to so I did not resent it.

Now that we have grandchildren, things are easier. I have grown emotionally and spiritually too over time. But I would not recommend marrying someone with children from a previous marriage unless you are certain it is what God is calling you to do. There is a reason why most second marriages fail. It is not an easy road, no matter how much you love the man. You are creating a new family with him and you must be willing to embrace all that includes when there are children involved.

PS I remembered a few other things to consider: as the step-parent who did not live day to day with the children, I had the least say of everyone on what happened (all four parents). Even the step-father who lived with the children had more say than I did. In some ways, I had to protect myself emotionally because of that. The children called him “father” but never called me “mother”. That was OK, but at the same time, I nearly always felt like an outsider. My parents and many other people were very “disapproving” of a marriage like this. They resented the kids even though I didn’t, so I had to deal with that.

Do you have the emotional strength to live with all this stuff? Because it is NOT going to go away, it only gets harder as time goes on and things get more complicated. Is your faith strong enough to help you get through? When I married him, I believed it was God’s will. If I hadn’t had that to fall back on during tough times, I don’t know how I would have made it.
 
You will need to treat the child as your own if you marry that man. Not because of that man really or because of you but because a child doesn’t deserve to be a second category child in a family merely on account of an error his parents made. Basically, there would be equality among the children. You’d be closer emotionally or further, who knows. It would be relatively mutual unless either of you shut off unilaterally. But in some core aspects, even though the child weren’t yours, it would be just as well as if. Things like school, college, car, other such expenses, those would be pretty much equal, just like the food you put on the table for everybody.

And it’s not unnatural to fear that a man could favour his first child over the subsequent children with another woman. I guess you might as well ask him how he would treat the children, if he would be able to love and treat the new ones equally. Not all men can and not all men can even get over the first woman, this much is pretty much a fact of life. Now this doesn’t mean your current or prospective boyfriend will inevitably share the attitude. Also, nobody says that the eldest must get everything, as in everything for the first and scraps for the rest. Perhaps it makes sense if there’s money for only one college scholarship or only one person can realistically operate the family business after being handed it down from dad, but otherwise it’s not like the first gets all. At any rate, you need to talk this over with the man. Even without actually having children from previous relationships can people have wildly different, subjective views of family, children, how things are done.

Wouldn’t worry too much about the child not being able to call you mother. You’d need to accept that you wouldn’t be the child’s mother in a “historical” sense or a replacement for one. Just as if some misfortune were to happen and you split up, the children you gave birth to would still be your children. Same with “the other woman”. But this absolutely doesn’t mean you can’t bond and have a meaningful relationship with a child that isn’t biologically yours. Even if you don’t actually enter a replacement parent relationship.

Another thing I noticed is, aren’t you a bit too eager to get out of being single perhaps? Can’t blame you, every once in a while I need to battle the same feelings. But speaking of feelings precisely, do you have them for that man or is it more about having a good catch on the radar? Everybody has flaws and has the potential to bore you to death or annoy you to death. Sometimes, and I guess especially for some people, convenience and good catch does work, but it’s all the easier if you actually have deep personal feelings. Those, I think, should make it easier with that person’s family, including any children from previous relationships. If you don’t actually care for that guy personally but he’s just an objectively great guy and a good catch – which I am not saying is the case – then that’d be reason enough on its own to rethink the idea of starting a relationship with him, even without children in the equation.

Finally, walk a mile in that kid’s shoes! I can’t blame you, I would perhaps feel the same, I don’t know. I generally do tend to look for people without children, without exes in the picture. But I was that kid. I could talk about that for a long time but that’d be a waste of breath. In short, basically, if you find out you can’t warm up to the kid, and I can’t blame you if you, then skip the dad. It would inconvenience you far less, I think, to find a new boyfriend than it would cost the kid to sort things out if he got any impression of being a second category child or especially a problem, in other words, of being unwanted. Which is, by the way, somewhat similar to what you want to avoid for your own children, from what I can gather from your post.

Good luck!
 
Ok, I am new here but I REALLY want some answers from Catholics as I have no one I really trust with this.

I am a woman in my mid 30s. I recently met a man I like. He had his marriage annulled so I know it is OK to date him. However, he has a son from that marriage. The truth is, I REALLY don’t know if I could get past that. He is a good man and would be so perfect if it weren’t for that.

Money should not be a factor but when I work hard to pay my bills (my salary is not the best but with some savy budgeting techniques I can make ends meet), I can’t help but think I would feel cheated if I married this man and some money would go to another woman’s kid. And then if this kid grows up and wants to go to college, well that is SO expensive how much support would he want to give his son.

And I really want kids of my own. I am young enough that being catholic we could still have a relatively large family. I always though I would do my best to save for MY kids education. Well how fair is that to this boy? All his half siblings get help for college and he doesn’t?

What are people’s opinions? Can a woman insist that her husband gives less financial help to some other woman’s child? After all, should the child’s mom not be paying half for this kid? The truth is, neither of our incomes are that high. If we were both doctor’s and had money to burn, I wouldn’t notice what he spent on his son. But we are not rich and I do notice and feel a big pinch when unexpected bills come up

Opions are appreciated
I give you credit for being honest and not pretending just to be nice on here about how you feel.

And I understand that women in general like their privacy.

If you can’t get past this, I would advise against seeing this man. People who have kids from other marriages should put their children first, certainly ahead of their own personal romantic ambitions (I’m not talking about those seek out a good partner for the child(ren) to have a parent).

If that is not the case, I would wonder just how good of a parent they really are.

You’ve taken the first step of admitting your feelings. Now, it comes down to you being able to reconcile that children, regardless of the biological parent, should come first.

Catholic marriage is first and foremost about the kids, especially once they are in your life.
 
Ok, I am new here but I REALLY want some answers from Catholics as I have no one I really trust with this.

I am a woman in my mid 30s. I recently met a man I like. He had his marriage annulled so I know it is OK to date him. However, he has a son from that marriage. The truth is, I REALLY don’t know if I could get past that. He is a good man and would be so perfect if it weren’t for that.
I see that you have some valid concerns. What I don’t know is how long have you known this man. If you have met just recently, and have been out on a few dates, my opinion is that this may be a good time for you two to discuss this issue 1-on-1. It may be hard, but it sounds like it must be done before you invest more time into this relationship.
Money should not be a factor but when I work hard to pay my bills (my salary is not the best but with some savy budgeting techniques I can make ends meet), I can’t help but think I would feel cheated if I married this man and some money would go to another woman’s kid. And then if this kid grows up and wants to go to college, well that is SO expensive how much support would he want to give his son.
From reading these other posts, it sounds like this man has joint custody, since he has his son every other weekend. I don’t know how old his son is, but in several states (if joint custody is issued) the son may be allowed to decide when he is a certain age (some states it is 12 or 14) to decide which parent that he wants to live with.

I see your concerns over “bonding”. If his son is young (say under 10 years old), my opinion is your chances of bonding with him are better. However, I do agree with the other posters that should you expand this relationship, you should accept his son as one of your own.

On another note, I don’t know if you have met his son yet either. Some single parents have told me they like to wait a little while before introducing a boyfriend (or in his case a girlfriend) to their children, because the parent wants to have already established a relationship that is more than just an opposite sex friendship. I think you understand.
And I really want kids of my own. I am young enough that being catholic we could still have a relatively large family.
Don’t listen to those doctors that say, “oh, your 35 (or older), it’s not healthy for you to have children”. I know several ladies who had two or more children after 37. Some even had a child in their early 40’s. I also have a friend whose mother had him at 45.

For what it’s worth, I also have experience being single in my 30’s. Some of it was because I was working at least ten hours a day six days a week. (I’m a guy). I also remember times in my early 30’s being in a hurry to get married. Looking back, there are times I thank God for a few unanswered prayers. While it was hard to get over a couple of break-ups, eventually I was glad they happened and I persevered.
 
I the kid is someone other woman’s child

First of all, that other woman didn’t make the kid by herself. She made the kid with a man who happens to be your boyfriend, therefore the kid is your boyfriend’s kid not someone other woman’s child.

I would see the man’s point of view and understand there is an imbalance between what each of us are bringing to the relationship and try to reach a compromise.

This statement makes it clear that not only you don’t have any kids but that you have very little knowledge of what child rearing implies. I am a single mother (my marriage was annulled, long story) and I am dating a man who has no children, never been married and who wishes to have children when we get married. He read this statement and his answer was “is she really thinking that children compete with adults for romantic relationships?” and I think he is right on the money. Your statement particularly " there is an imbalance between what each of us are bringing to the relationship" indicates that you don’t realize that a parent-child relationship is a TOTALLY and COMPLETELY different relationship than a romantic relationship and let me further say that any responsible parent WOULD NEVER try to compromise his/her child for a romantic relationship because you know what, a child is a priority and a responsibility, and the child depends on the parent and the main duty of a parent is to take care of that child properly. A grown functioning adult who has two hands and two legs, and is able to work is VERY capable of taking care of himself/herself and that grown functioning adult should understand that the dynamics of a romantic relationship have nothing to do or to compete with the relationship a parent has with his/her child. To me any adult who asks me to compromise my child for their own sake is a person who needs babysitting and someone to take care of them and I am not babysitting adults, therefore if I would be in your situation I would have finished that relationship the minute you asked for “compromise.”
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I understand kids take up a lot of money… But when if I did not have the mother/son bond right from the start and the kid has it with someone else, all of a sudden the sacrifices are not so easy to make*

I have a major problem with your statements regarding the money and the kid. You keep saying that “you have to make sacrifices” and that “you won’t be able to get a car, etc.” This may sound very harsh so I am sorry beforehand but it is the truth: if you are having so many economical problems as I seem to deduct from your post, why don’t you try to get a better job, educate yourself, or find new avenues of income? Why are you blaming the child? Your boyfriend’s child has nothing to do with your economical situation. You are the only one who created your economical situation and you can certainly make it better on your own without having to depend on a man’s income. That is something that I and many women have done so it is perfectly doable. Again, I get the feeling that you are expecting this man to come and support you, basically seems you want this man to “babysit” you. This is very destructive in a relationship because you are being needy and sooner or later he is going to get tired of your being needy and the relationship is just going to die at that point.

I am not suggesting the kid should be short changed in life. I am wondering if there is some kind of compromise so that both the kid and me can be happy
The good new is that yes, there is a compromise, and the compromise is that you understand that YOU are the adult and that the child is a child. You need to take the role of the adult because from all what I’ve read you are behaving right now like another child. You need to start being and thinking like an adult instead of throwing a temper tantrum. You seemed obsessed with the fact that the child is never going to call you mommy and that the child is not going to like you. Why do you think the child is not going to like you? Do you know that most of the time children are only responding to the adults around them? If you show resentment to that child that kid is going to pick up your feeling and throw it right back at you. Why do you have a need to replace the child’s mother? Can’t you create a nice and friendly atmosphere with the child? or is it that you are trying to create conflict with the child.

My childless boyfriend has an amazing relationship with my child and the three of us are very happy and to a big extent that is because he realizes that he is an adult and that children have needs that must be met therefore, he allows me to meet my child’s needs. My boyfriend doesn’t complain about the money I spend on my daughter, because guess what? HE WORKS! he can make his own money and he doesn’t need to compete with my daughter for MY money. He is a very functional adult and he takes care of himself He, also, understands that my child is not competing with him and he is smart enough to understand children’s behavior and he actually knows how to deal with kids. . Moreover, he knows that he wants children and he knows that the way I take care of my daughter is an indication of how I will take care of any kids we have so he knows that by being a good parent now, I will be a good parent in the future.

That being said, I don’t think dating a single parent is for everybody. You have to know your limits. If you are not capable of dealing with certain situations don’t get into it. Dating a single parent requires a lot and a whole lot of understanding, patience, strength and maturity. In your case, it is obvious that you don’t have the understanding to be in a relationship with a single parent so don’t do it.
 
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The good new is that yes, there is a compromise, and the compromise is that you understand that YOU are the adult and that the child is a child. You need to take the role of the adult because from all what I’ve read you are behaving right now like another child. You need to start being and thinking like an adult instead of throwing a temper tantrum. You seemed obsessed with the fact that the child is never going to call you mommy and that the child is not going to like you. Why do you think the child is not going to like you? Do you know that most of the time children are only responding to the adults around them? If you show resentment to that child that kid is going to pick up your feeling and throw it right back at you. Why do you have a need to replace the child’s mother? Can’t you create a nice and friendly atmosphere with the child? or is it that you are trying to create conflict with the child.

My childless boyfriend has an amazing relationship with my child and the three of us are very happy and to a big extent that is because he realizes that he is an adult and that children have needs that must be met therefore, he allows me to meet my child’s needs. My boyfriend doesn’t complain about the money I spend on my daughter, because guess what? HE WORKS! he can make his own money and he doesn’t need to compete with my daughter for MY money. He is a very functional adult and he takes care of himself He, also, understands that my child is not competing with him and he is smart enough to understand children’s behavior and he actually knows how to deal with kids. . Moreover, he knows that he wants children and he knows that the way I take care of my daughter is an indication of how I will take care of any kids we have so he knows that by being a good parent now, I will be a good parent in the future.

That being said, I don’t think dating a single parent is for everybody. You have to know your limits. If you are not capable of dealing with certain situations don’t get into it. Dating a single parent requires a lot and a whole lot of understanding, patience, strength and maturity. In your case, it is obvious that you don’t have the understanding to be in a relationship with a single parent so don’t do it.

I totally agree with Mary.
May I just add that you 're one of the reason why single parents wouldn’t date anymore. You seem to be so selfish. It’s all about you you and you. Being in a relationship should never be all about you especially when children are involved. But it’s also like you’re desperate to find a man that will financially support you and your idealistic life with your rules, your house, your kids … The only thing I agree with is that you admit you’re not strong enough for this situation. Unless you mature I really wish you never get to be the “other woman”.
 
Money should not be a factor but when I work hard to pay my bills (my salary is not the best but with some savy budgeting techniques I can make ends meet), I can’t help but think I would feel cheated if I married this man and some money would go to another woman’s kid. And then if this kid grows up and wants to go to college, well that is SO expensive how much support would he want to give his son.

And I really want kids of my own. I am young enough that being catholic we could still have a relatively large family. I always though I would do my best to save for MY kids education. Well how fair is that to this boy? All his half siblings get help for college and he doesn’t?

What are people’s opinions? Can a woman insist that her husband gives less financial help to some other woman’s child? After all, should the child’s mom not be paying half for this kid? The truth is, neither of our incomes are that high. If we were both doctor’s and had money to burn, I wouldn’t notice what he spent on his son. But we are not rich and I do notice and feel a big pinch when unexpected bills come up
I am not going to comment on whether you should even date this guy with the attitude you have. Enough other people have already done that so eloquently.

It sounds like you want this guy to be a new source of income for you and resent him spending money on his child instead of you.

Hopefully, since you only recently started dating, he will sense your animosity and combative thinking and break whatever it is you have with him off, on his own. Please, do him a favor and move on. This would obviously be a huge problem for you. You only recently started dating and you are already worrying about what will happen when his son goes to collegte and how it will affect you. REALLY? 🤷
 
Hopefully, since you only recently started dating, he will sense your animosity and combative thinking and break whatever it is you have with him off, on his own. Please, do him a favor and move on. This would obviously be a huge problem for you. You only recently started dating and you are already worrying about what will happen when his son goes to collegte and how it will affect you. REALLY? 🤷
I am in agreement that if the OP does not want to be considerate of the child’s needs, she should not date this man. However… being a planner, I actually think it is good to discuss these things in advance. I think it is better to get this out in the open now than to potentially marry the man and put the child through an ugly divorce later

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