Dealing with Husband's Past

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Oh I hope I’m not the bad guy here but here goes. You said before you were married he would “reassure” you that you were beautiful and smart and that he did not need to look at porn. Is it possible you had insecurities that caused him to feel like he could not tell you how he really felt about looking at porn and that he had to hide it in secret? I know you said he talked about the guys at work, but why was that an important conversation you remember? Did he know deep down this would happen if you found out? Maybe he is afraid to tell his true thoughts to you? Not that what he did is acceptable, but I think there might me more problems in your marriage than you realize. Considering suicide over this is such a strong statement, I’m very fearful for where you are at with your own body image and self-esteem?

You stated repeatedly that secrecy is the most important thing and that nobody is to know what happened. But yet when you found out by checking the computer, you said “I called him immediately for an explanation. He came home for a brief moment, and I couldn’t even listen to him. I stayed at my parents house for three days before even talking to my husband. My parents had absolutely no advice for me, and were as equally disappointed.” (emphasis added)

So you demanded an explanation, he rushed home, you refused to talk to him, and went to your parents house for 3 days and told them everything. In a later post you said he and your Father had become very good friends.

For the future, you really should not offer private information to your parents like that! You can get over things, but they never will, trust me! Don’t you remember when you were young and your girlfriend would complain about her boyfriend, and yet she’d take him back but you never forgot what he did?? And she never forgot what you said about him?? You will always regret telling your family private info like that, especially when you forgive and forget but they don’t!

I know you are still newly married, but I think that you may not have any open communication with your husband. Your later posts sound as if you completely shut him out. You said he leans over to hug you and you physically pull away from him. You aren’t even giving him a chance to prove to you he deserves forgiveness. You say he swears he stopped, but you don’t believe him and your marriage is slowly “dwindling away.” Don’t let it!! I’m not sure what he is supposed to do now?? It sounds like he is getting fed up with trying though.

How is he supposed to repair this? How is he supposed to say sorry and try to help you understand that you are still the one he comes home to, the one he sleeps next to, the one he tries to talk to and hug? It doesn’t sound like you are even allowing it. You speak of counseling, but secrecy is so important that it isn’t an option either.

You said you are changing your appearance to try to “please him” but then you push him away. That is very contradictory.

I’m not trying to take the side of someone who has done a reprehensible thing, but I feel sympathy for him. I think you need to seriously think of what he can do to help your marriage and give him the ability to follow your direction! I can see why he might be fed up and really confused as to what to do if you won’t even talk to him, but you admit to nagging him instead and constantly rehashing it without giving him a chance to prove to you he has changed.

Please pray for your marriage and for God’s intercession to show you the way. Pray for yourself as much as your husband. Ask for peace and for protection from Satan. Here you are in a new marriage and you are already being given advice to divorce 😦 Once again, Satan does his very best to destroy marriages 😦 You cannot fix your husband, but you can work on yourself and pray for God to help your husband find his way with his own serious problem. It is not your fault, not something you did, and not because of you, he has to come to his own realizations as to why he was viewing porn on the computer. Realize he married you because he LOVES you and he obviously wants to be with YOU!! Good luck!
I’m going to second all this. 👍

Porn is horrible. It is wrong. Your husband needs to work on that.

But contemplating suicide because you found porn? Refusing to talk to a priest because it’s too private? Staying at your parent’s house and refusing to talk to your husband for 3 days? Telling your parents about your marriage problems but not telling a priest?

You both have a lot to work on. You both need to put your marriage first. You both need counseling and to see a priest–probably individually and together. You both need to be going to Mass. You both need to be praying about this.

Marriage takes a lot of work. It’s the work that makes you holier together.

Prayers,

KG

P.S. Your husband didn’t do porn because of something lacking about you. He did it because porn is something he does. Do not keep telling yourself that you need to change your body to be more of what he wants. He married what he wants…and that is you! From your original post, you seem to have a lot of body image issues and are feeding that with your husband’s porn problem. Try to stop linking the two. When you guys move forward from this, try to remember that a woman who knows she is beautiful and loves herself is much more attractive than a woman who is constantly worried about her self-image. It took me a long time to realize that, but when I did gain that confidence it was very freeing. 👍
 
Again, thank you everyone for your posts and advice. At this time, I am still keeping divorce and annulment on the “NOT an option” list. I took my vows, and I sincerely meant them. I truly believe he did as well. Even his parents were shocked when he told them what was going on. His mother broke down in tears because she had reassured me when we met that he “is not a liar. He could never lie to anyone.” I think she felt betrayed just as I did. To clear things up, my husband is and WAS a good man when I married him. He is the best man I have ever met, and him and my dad quickly became best friends. He holds a very respectable job in town, and people always tell me how wonderful he is.

That aside, he did cause me some serious pain that is obviously very difficult to overcome. I think it’s partially because he is such a great guy that this moral oversight struck me so off-guard. I don’t think this situation causes our marriage to be invalid,** but I am worried about the adultery issue. I told him that is how I felt. That it seemed like he was lusting after all these women who obviously aren’t me, and that I would feel the same had I caught him in bed with someone. He says this is unfair, and not at all what was going on**.
OP, I think you need to re-consider thinking of what is going on with your marriage in these terms. I know there are a few very vocal forum members who equate looking at porn with adultery, but it is NOT the same thing. Which I daresay you would realize if your husband had really had an affair. Porn is not right, and of course the end goal is to masturbate or otherwise use someone for gratification, but it’s not adultery. He has not actually had sex with another woman. Give him credit for that, at least. It’s like me telling my son that since he has looked at porn, that he’s had sex with all those women. He has not. Can you imagine what that would do to my son? He’d give up, he’d go out and actually have the sex since he feels bad enough and what’s the difference? Not saying that your husband would do that, but in a young person’s mind, once you’ve been seen that way, what the heck…

Please go and see a counselor about this. You can still have a strong marriage, in fact, stronger if you face the REALITY and work on things on both sides.

Did YOU tell his parents about this or did HE tell them? If he told them, then he wants to change, he’s not being secretive. I do not think YOU should have told your parents, however. Now they are going to see him in a different light.
 
You said, “When I got past that…” How did you get past it? I know it is different for everyone, but how did you begin? HOW?? It is very difficult when it has enveloped your whole life.
Part of it was I realized it was not a sin against me. I am no where near perfect, sin can not be measured against me. Sin is measured against God. Sin is against God. It impacted me, for sure but it was against God. If God, who is all good can forgive, who am I not to forgive?

Once I go past that I could see other things that mitigated what the other person did and even small things that I did or didn’t do or could have done. that impacted the whole situation. I could love them by not want them to sin, I could love them on how they are changing for the better. I’m sure your situation is very different in the specifics, but perhaps some of the same general concepts can apply.
 
Oh I hope I’m not the bad guy here but here goes. You said before you were married he would “reassure” you that you were beautiful and smart and that he did not need to look at porn. Is it possible you had insecurities that caused him to feel like he could not tell you how he really felt about looking at porn and that he had to hide it in secret? I know you said he talked about the guys at work, but why was that an important conversation you remember? Did he know deep down this would happen if you found out? Maybe he is afraid to tell his true thoughts to you? Not that what he did is acceptable, but I think there might me more problems in your marriage than you realize. Considering suicide over this is such a strong statement, I’m very fearful for where you are at with your own body image and self-esteem?

You stated repeatedly that secrecy is the most important thing and that nobody is to know what happened. But yet when you found out by checking the computer, you said “I called him immediately for an explanation. He came home for a brief moment, and I couldn’t even listen to him. I stayed at my parents house for three days before even talking to my husband. My parents had absolutely no advice for me, and were as equally disappointed.” (emphasis added)

So you demanded an explanation, he rushed home, you refused to talk to him, and went to your parents house for 3 days and told them everything. In a later post you said he and your Father had become very good friends.

For the future, you really should not offer private information to your parents like that! You can get over things, but they never will, trust me! Don’t you remember when you were young and your girlfriend would complain about her boyfriend, and yet she’d take him back but you never forgot what he did?? And she never forgot what you said about him?? You will always regret telling your family private info like that, especially when you forgive and forget but they don’t!

I know you are still newly married, but I think that you may not have any open communication with your husband. Your later posts sound as if you completely shut him out. You said he leans over to hug you and you physically pull away from him. You aren’t even giving him a chance to prove to you he deserves forgiveness. You say he swears he stopped, but you don’t believe him and your marriage is slowly “dwindling away.” Don’t let it!! I’m not sure what he is supposed to do now?? It sounds like he is getting fed up with trying though.

How is he supposed to repair this? How is he supposed to say sorry and try to help you understand that you are still the one he comes home to, the one he sleeps next to, the one he tries to talk to and hug? It doesn’t sound like you are even allowing it. You speak of counseling, but secrecy is so important that it isn’t an option either.

You said you are changing your appearance to try to “please him” but then you push him away. That is very contradictory.

I’m not trying to take the side of someone who has done a reprehensible thing, but I feel sympathy for him. I think you need to seriously think of what he can do to help your marriage and give him the ability to follow your direction! I can see why he might be fed up and really confused as to what to do if you won’t even talk to him, but you admit to nagging him instead and constantly rehashing it without giving him a chance to prove to you he has changed.

Please pray for your marriage and for God’s intercession to show you the way. Pray for yourself as much as your husband. Ask for peace and for protection from Satan. Here you are in a new marriage and you are already being given advice to divorce 😦 Once again, Satan does his very best to destroy marriages 😦 You cannot fix your husband, but you can work on yourself and pray for God to help your husband find his way with his own serious problem. It is not your fault, not something you did, and not because of you, he has to come to his own realizations as to why he was viewing porn on the computer. Realize he married you because he LOVES you and he obviously wants to be with YOU!! Good luck!
Exactly! I totally agree with everything you just stated! 👍
 
Just so people don’t get confused, I (RTRT88) am the original poster, not “Always for him.” Their post might have confused a few people. I think they are going through a similar situation.

Also, I just wanted to point out that I am not nagging my husband about it every single day. In fact, in the last 7 months since this happened, we’ve talked about it probably 5 or 6 times total. I joined this forum because I noticed (and he suggested) that I still was not over the issue, and was seeking guidance on how to overcome it and let it go. I wanted to keep this private from our priest because I didn’t want my husband to be embarrassed and feel even more shame. It’s not that I live this “secret” lifestyle. In fact, I am a very open person about almost anything. I ran to my parents because to me in that moment, our marriage was over. There was no more trust. I know to some, it is “just porn” and people don’t think it’s that serious. While a few people have reassured me it is not adultery, I’ve had a person in seminary and a few on this forum tell me it is. I guess now I’m just confused on the issue. All I know is that my world came to a screeching halt that night, and I had to get out. I am not a person to run away, but I thought it was the end. I couldn’t talk to my husband because I couldn’t voice my pain through my crying. He tried to explain, but couldn’t, and still hasn’t offered up an explanation. Which, again, is why I turned here for guidance. I am no longer suicidal, but I will admit that I have always had self-esteem issues. What younger female doesn’t?? When someone posted that “there may be more issues in our marriage” I have already mentioned that I think finding the porn was a wake-up call to the already present issues. How are we supposed to overcome those issues without tackling this one as well? When I push him away, I didn’t do that cognitively. I wasn’t aware of my lack of emotions until he recently pointed it out. Again, that is why I came to this forum. My parents, truthfully, have not talked about this incident since then and I honestly believe have fully forgiven him. He is always welcome in their home.

*As an aside note, my husband became a true son to my parents, as my brother left home and never came back at a young age. My parents DO love him, and always will, which is why I was able to tell them this without future repercussions to either of us.

I wasn’t going to tell anyone in the first place. But then when that fleeting suicidal thought passed my mind, I knew I had to talk to someone. At 22, I was still very dependent on my parents and their advice. I didn’t know who else to turn to that would still accept us later in life. Family is forever in my book. HE is the one that went to his parents. His mother cried because she told me that “he would never lie to me or hurt me.” She felt like she had let me down. I know he wanted to change, which is why he gave it up. I have doubts about that because my trust was broken. I am wanting to rebuild that.

I apologize if this post sounds super-defensive, but I want everyone to know that I am trying so hard, and that I really don’t talk to my husband about this very often. To prevent “nagging” him and causing HIM more pain, I have joined this forum for advice. I DO appreciate everything every person has said. If I could snap my fingers and be as happy as I was before I found out, I would in a heartbeat. But it is not that easy. I will, as someone mentioned, hand my worries over to the Lord and pray and forgive as much as I can and have been. I am so thankful that everyone is here to share their thoughts and offer up their bits of wisdom. Even if a post has hurt my feelings, or made me feel bad, I know that it is necessary to hear it all. It is wonderful that you all have different points of view and different angles of taking on this issue. That is why I came here! 🙂 Just please know that this was a very very painful, surprising thing and that I am doing the very best I can.

Thanks again to everyone!
:blessyou:
 
OP, I think you need to re-consider thinking of what is going on with your marriage in these terms. I know there are a few very vocal forum members who equate looking at porn with adultery, but it is NOT the same thing. Which I daresay you would realize if your husband had really had an affair. Porn is not right, and of course the end goal is to masturbate or otherwise use someone for gratification, but it’s not adultery. He has not actually had sex with another woman.
I’d watch it if I were you. Being reasonable and realistic like this is not well-tolerated around here.
 
One bit of advice I’d give in regards to you pulling away from your husband when he tried to get close to you, is that, for both your sakes, you really need to give him a chance to enjoy being with you now that the fog has lifted, so to speak. There are few things that can reinforce a man’s resolve to stay away from porn than spending time with his wife with a clear mind & conscience, and viewing her with eyes that are seeing her and nobody else.
 
+RTRT88 . . . There will always be people in your life . . . and on this forum . . . who will tempt you to discard God and Sacred :bible1: Scripture as perfect healthy holy truth to trust in and to live by close to the **Sacred ❤️ Heart **of Jesus. . . and who treat our Saviour as a nonessential . . . and will substitute their own ideas above the Lord’s wisdom and try to lead you apart from God’s holy pathways prepared for the salvation of His children . . . as a church secretary for considerably more than 20 years . . . I have seen many souls in great distress in similar situations . . . and I can assure you that your reaction and actions you have shared with us following the terrible shock of discovering the plague of the evils of constant habitual adultery and habitual lies . . . that you found existing in your life and marriage . . . were perfectly normal . . . and above reproach . . . and being unable to trust your husband . . . going to your trustworthy loving parents was just fine . . . don’t let anyone encourage you into isolation when undergoing such a hellish experience . . .
+Actually you are not suffering from a untrustworthy husband who is just indulging in an “addiction” . . . your husband has been indulging in the . . . grave mortal sin of “adultery” . . . he has completely broken fellowship with God Himself . . . as well as having broken the marriage covenant with you as his bride by disrespecting you as his wife . . . and willfully breaking his marriage vows . . . and he has broken the holy seal of . . . **and defiled **. . . your marriage bed with his adulterous behaviour . . . it’s no wonder you went into shock with your dreadful discovery of his most unholy “secret” life . . . you’ve discovered that your marriage partner is riddled with the disease of mortal sin . . .

:bible1:
[Jesus talking]
But I say to you,
that whosoever shall look on a woman
to lust after her,
hath already committed
adultery
with her in his heart.
Matthew 5:28

What you discovered is that your husband has continuously been unfaithful in his heart ❤️ . . . and it is very likely that this sin of fornication/adultery via the internet became active in his life long before you married him . . . in addition to adultery he is also clearly an accomplished habitual liar . . . **another sin **. . . which radically opens up questions about the actual foundation of your marriage . . . through his dishonestly breaching the trust you placed in him as a supposedly honest person . . .

Forgiving him is necessary . . . yes . . . absolutely . . . however . . . living with a licentious pervasive evil such as adulterly as a part of your life each day . . . is another thing entirely . . . dear child . . . you really need to talk to a wise priest as to how to handle this most unholy reality you’ve been thrust into knowledge of having invaded your personal life . . . and should children be brought into this toxic environment containing this evil . . . they can’t help but be gravely affected by such a soul so corrupted by constant sin . . . and the adulterous marriage relationship your husband has thrust upon you is a sad example for you and your children to be a part of . . . which you have now been allowed to come into knowledge of as the real truth of your marriage . . .

My deepest sympathies go out to you . . . but now that **God **has allowed this door to knowledge of the actual TRUTH of this pernicious evil that has invaded your life and home . . . to remain loving and holy in your own life . . . you need real help sorting out what you need to do . . . you need to . . . **take control of this situation for your sake ** . . . since he has abdicated his marriage vows . . . and discover what is best for you and your life . . . and your children if you have any . . . to continuing living in holiness in the Lord . . . . . . and I can’t believe that keeping the marriage bed open to an adultererous husband is in any way possible a good thing . . . unless this individual sincerely enters into therapy and deep therapeutic and spiritual counseling . . .and has dedicated himself to leaving this mortally sinful practice behind . . . and gone to confession . . . committing his heart and his life to the mercy of God . . . for Jesus Holy Name’s sake . . . and for the sake of his marriage and his family . . .

" … “And** Jesus** said:
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit
adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear
false witness
.”
Matthew 19:18

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . Dear Crucified Lord our Saviour+
. . . have mercy+
. . . Gracious Heavenly Father have mercy+
. . . Spirit of our Holy God have mercy+

:signofcross:
. . . all for Jesus+​
 
If it’s still bothering her, causing her to feel bad about herself or not trust him, I think she should definitely still bring it up. Not nag or yell at him, but I think it’s absolutely beneficial for him to know just how deeply this hurt her and that it doesn’t go away as soon as he stops looking at porn. I guarantee that the images don’t instantly leave his head, and that the improper thoughts and tendencies he had while looking at the porn don’t go away just because he doesn’t look at it anymore. If he truly did stop, it’s going to take time for him to really put it behind him, just like it’s going to take time for him to rebuild her trust in him. If she’s going through a spell where this is still bothering her, she has every right to let him know–I’d even say she’s obligated to let him know. It might help keep him on the straight and narrow, and let him know that he has to help her get over it just as much as he needs her support.
+Gordon . . . your posts have been like a breath of the fresh air of hope based on the wisdom of painful living experience . . . thank you for sharing your perspective with us . . .

*God bless you and yours . . . *

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Blessed Saviour+
. . . thank You Gracious Heavenly Father+
. . . thank You Sweet Spirit of our Holy God+​
 
Just so people don’t get confused, I (RTRT88) am the original poster

I joined this forum because I noticed (and he suggested) that I still was not over the issue, and was seeking guidance on how to overcome it and let it go. I wanted to keep this private from our priest because I didn’t want my husband to be embarrassed and feel even more shame.

There was no more trust. I know to some, it is “just porn” and people don’t think it’s that serious. While a few people have reassured me it is not adultery, I’ve had a person in seminary and a few on this forum tell me it is. I guess now I’m just confused on the issue. All I know is that my world came to a screeching halt that night, and I had to get out. I am not a person to run away, but I thought it was the end.

Thanks again to everyone!
:blessyou:
I edited out a lot of what you said RTRT88.

I understand what you are feeling. Let me be blunt. Voyeurism is a breaking of the commandment against adultery. However, I would not say it is equal to adultery.

Thank God your husband was not at a strip club.

Thank God your husband did not solicit a prostitute

Thank God your husband did not have an affair with a co-worker

Thank God your husband did not have an affair with your best friend.

Would not it be much more painful if he was bringing your best friend into your house and having sex in your bed.

Not to minimize how this made you feel but can you be thankful that he was viewing pornography in his own home, not paying a stripper to do a lap dance? He was not humiliating you by seeking to satisfy his need in public.

Have you tried to do things as a couple that are not sexual? Go out for a dinner date and then hold hands? Play Twister? Play Gin and work as a team to beat another couple?

Try doing social things that build trust. Then work on the bedroom stuff.

And kudos for joining a forum to vent your feelings. Not everyone would look for advice.
 
RRT88, Please don’t think for a second that your opening up to people you trust was wrong. I did the same thing, finally after almost 15 years of isolation. It destroys you from within. It is NOT ok that he was doing this. You have your feelings and it is ok how you feel. Who wouldn’t feel betrayed and sad at finding out that your marriage isn’t what you thought it was in many ways? Pornography is not exactly adultry. It is infidelity. It is unfaithfulness. It is a sin against marriage, your vows. It took your husband OUT of your marriage and therefore prevented your marriage from progressing and prevented the deeper bond that would have developoed by sharing life in all the ways God established marriage for from developing. It could have been much worse. If you let it keep going, it most likely would have gotten worse. I don’t know if it would have in your case, but it is usually a progression that ends up causing so many problems, then the husband ends up cheating. Again, not always, but very typically. Addicts usually end up cheating b/c the addiction ends up causing so many problems, behaviors, abusive treatment,etc… that the spouse ends up cheating to get the feel good he/she can’t get in the marriage. Keep praying, DON’T sacrifice yourself, your boundaries, what you believe in for this sin!!! Loving your husband and allowing this are two different things!!!
 
. . . :coffeeread: . . .
The spouse in the Canticles :bible1: feedeth among the lilies. One of the sacred interpreters, explaining these words, says, that “as the devil revels in the uncleanness of lust, so Christ feeds on the lilies of chastity.” Venerable Bede asserts that the hymn of the virgins is more agreeable to the Lamb than that of all the other saints.
- St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori

“Canticles” = The Song of Solomon in Sacred :bible1: Scripture . . .

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Sweet Spirit of our Holy God+
 
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