Dealing with the Divine Mercy devotion?

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I’ve heard some traditionalists speak out against this devotion. One of them said that some of the spirits would not go into the chapel of the convent… and this:

A. It was condemned under Pius XII. ((((I’ve been told that Pius XII thought Sister Faustina was a very holy woman and kind of approved of the devotion, and it was John XXIII who placed it on the forbidden list))))

B. Though there is nothing at all wrong with imploring mercy and it would seem that Sr. Faustina was a typically devout, very good nun, there ARE some entirely legitimate, rational and deeply theological issues raised by what Sr. Faustina actually wrote in her diary - which has probably sold more copies and in more editions than James Mitchener’s works. These include some ridiculous assertions concerning the Blessed Sacrament and how she, Sr. Faustina, was - allegedly not only incredibly, awesomely and megamega holy but superduperexpialadotiously holy, as well!

C. ( And here’s the clincher… ) A certain fella from Poland ( like Faustina ) resurrected the whole, previously banned, condemned, anathematized deal. You may remember him.

D. That same fella also banished Low Sunday to the outer darkness and replaced it with “DM Sunday”. Tomorrow is Low Sunday. I’d suggest everyone pray THAT Mass, the origins of which go back to the Early Church and leave the charismaniacs ( the whole Medjugoogoo crowd is gaga for DM ) explain that one when they meet up with St. Peter.
 
The Pope beatified St Faustina and proclaimed the feast day, complete with indulgences. It has been approved by the church. No one HAS to believe it, it is a private revelation. But I would take care in disparaging it.

If it was approved by the church, and the Pope, it’s good enough for me. And, as Jesus says, we must trust in Him.
 
thomasf said:
The Pope beatified St Faustina and proclaimed the feast day, complete with indulgences. It has been approved by the church. No one HAS to believe it, it is a private revelation. But I would take care in disparaging it.

If it was approved by the church, and the Pope, it’s good enough for me. And, as Jesus says, we must trust in Him.
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Well said, thomasf!👍

Our Lord revealed this to St. Faustina not to create our faith, but to INCREASE our faith.

+JMJ+
 
“charismaniacs”? Not very charitable way to refer to the Catholic Charismatic movement. Nor is it charitable to refer to a pilgrimage site that Catholics are still allowed to visit, though the apparition has not been officially approved or disapproved as “Medugoo-goo.” I’d think that behaving like this on a public forum shows less adherence to Catholic teaching than folks who follow approved Catholic movements and devotions.

The charismatic movement, which does not appeal to me personally, HAS been approved by the Church.

St. Faustina and the Divine Mercy movement HAS been approved by the Church.

The Mass in its various forms both modern and otherwise, HAVE been approved by the Church.

You have the freedom as a Catholic to not follow these movements or devotions, to visit these supposed apparition sites, or attend a more traditional type Mass. Why not leave others to the same blessed freedom?
 
JDGaney said:
I’ve heard some traditionalists speak out against this devotion. One of them said that some of the spirits would not go into the chapel of the convent… and this:

A. It was condemned under Pius XII. ((((I’ve been told that Pius XII thought Sister Faustina was a very holy woman and kind of approved of the devotion, and it was John XXIII who placed it on the forbidden list))))

B. Though there is nothing at all wrong with imploring mercy and it would seem that Sr. Faustina was a typically devout, very good nun, there ARE some entirely legitimate, rational and deeply theological issues raised by what Sr. Faustina actually wrote in her diary - which has probably sold more copies and in more editions than James Mitchener’s works. These include some ridiculous assertions concerning the Blessed Sacrament and how she, Sr. Faustina, was - allegedly not only incredibly, awesomely and megamega holy but superduperexpialadotiously holy, as well!

C. ( And here’s the clincher… ) A certain fella from Poland ( like Faustina ) resurrected the whole, previously banned, condemned, anathematized deal. You may remember him.

D. That same fella also banished Low Sunday to the outer darkness and replaced it with “DM Sunday”. Tomorrow is Low Sunday. I’d suggest everyone pray THAT Mass, the origins of which go back to the Early Church and leave the charismaniacs ( the whole Medjugoogoo crowd is gaga for DM ) explain that one when they meet up with St. Peter.
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Uh huh. You do know that the Index of Forbidden Books was flexible? That throughout its existence books were occasionally taken OFF the Index as well as being put on? As new understanding and information came to light?

Secondly - the ‘certain fella from Poland’ was Blessed Pope John Paul II. Validly elected and legitimate succesor of St Peter. With full authority to institute whatever feasts and approve whatever devotions he pleased, just as his predecessors have all done (or do you think Low Sunday, Corpus Christ, Sacred Heart etc have all just magically appeared out of thin air or something?)

No-one is elected to that office or given those powers by the Cardinals lightly.

So, Mr or Ms rude and ignorant loudmouth nobody from the Internet, kindly do him the common courtesy of referring to him by name and title. And kindly respect the fact that what he did was neither unprecedented nor outside of his authority.
 
Pray the chaplet in front of the Blessed Sacrament. Then come back and tell us what you felt while you were praying it.
 
I could be way off the mark here, but wasn’t there a Sunday around Easter dedicated to God’s Mercy in earlier times that somehow was removed from the Church calendar?
 
JDGaney said:
I’ve heard some traditionalists speak out against this devotion. One of them said that some of the spirits would not go into the chapel of the convent… and this:

A. It was condemned under Pius XII. ((((I’ve been told that Pius XII thought Sister Faustina was a very holy woman and kind of approved of the devotion, and it was John XXIII who placed it on the forbidden list))))

B. Though there is nothing at all wrong with imploring mercy and it would seem that Sr. Faustina was a typically devout, very good nun, there ARE some entirely legitimate, rational and deeply theological issues raised by what Sr. Faustina actually wrote in her diary - which has probably sold more copies and in more editions than James Mitchener’s works. These include some ridiculous assertions concerning the Blessed Sacrament and how she, Sr. Faustina, was - allegedly not only incredibly, awesomely and megamega holy but superduperexpialadotiously holy, as well!

C. ( And here’s the clincher… ) A certain fella from Poland ( like Faustina ) resurrected the whole, previously banned, condemned, anathematized deal. You may remember him.

D. That same fella also banished Low Sunday to the outer darkness and replaced it with “DM Sunday”. Tomorrow is Low Sunday. I’d suggest everyone pray THAT Mass, the origins of which go back to the Early Church and leave the charismaniacs ( the whole Medjugoogoo crowd is gaga for DM ) explain that one when they meet up with St. Peter.
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I suggest you do more research as I don’t think you have a clue what you are talking about. Don’t listen to gossip and gibberish. Look for FACTS. The truth will set you free.

And please show more reverence and respect to Pope John Paul ll and St Faustina.

God bless 🙂
 
JDGaney said:
I’ve come across many Jewish writings on who the messiah is, and I’ve started to doubt if Jesus is the Lord…

Many Jews say that the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is Israel, not the messiah.
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You posted these words on another thread, and then start this thread by saying you have trouble believing in the Divine Mercy Devotion? And along the way mock one of the greatest Popes in history? And lest I forget St. Faustina!..What’s wrong with this picture, or is it just me? 🤷

Peace, Mark
 
Mark121359 said:
You posted these words on another thread, and then start this thread by saying you have trouble believing in the Divine Mercy Devotion? And along the way mock one of the greatest Popes in history? And lest I forget St. Faustina!..What’s wrong with this picture, or is it just me? 🤷

Peace, Mark
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He also speaks rudely of other saints and of Mother Mary.

Hmmmm… I smell something fishy…
 
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Jacquimae:
Today I had the chance to do just that, with the fellowship of other believing Catholics. My soul was and is lifted up to our Lord. This devotion helps me to stand stronger as a Catholic and gives me the courage, faith and strength to continue to pray for my family, friends and self. I think that is the best advice anyone can give, to spend time with the Blessed Sacrament during the time of devotion to the Divine Mercy. God be with you. (And please, do not insult our Popes and blessed ones on this forum. Go to Facebook or You tube. I am sure there will be plenty there to wallow in misery with you.)
 
The Divine Mercy Sunday is not a private devotion at all…It is a Liturgical Solemnity. Many priests are uninformed and sadly, do not give this great day the honor it should receive. What a joyful day! A great gift of Mercy for us! Yay God!!
 
As I complete the ninth day of the Divine Mercy Novena I am filled with hope and peace. Sojo is correct, certainly you could find a more charitable way to express your opinions. I have always felt that if a thought had any value it could stand on its own without sarcasm or and calling.
 
TheSupplanter said:
Pray the chaplet in front of the Blessed Sacrament. Then come back and tell us what you felt while you were praying it.
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Wonderful post.
Today, at my local parish, we did just that. It was so beautiful. Some were moved to tears. What I felt can not really be described, but I will try.
The truth. The reality of His Sacrifice, His Passion.
His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Blessed Sacrament.
Hope where once was fear nearing despair. Faith where once was confusion and doubt.
Compassion, consolation and Communion where once was loneliness and isolation.
Relief and gratitude in knowing that His Mercy endures.

Joy in trusting Jesus.
 
Ignatian_Fan said:
The Divine Mercy Sunday is not a private devotion at all…It is a Liturgical Solemnity. Many priests are uninformed and sadly, do not give this great day the honor it should receive. What a joyful day! A great gift of Mercy for us! Yay God!!
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True, Divine Sunday is an optional liturgical solemnity. But reciting the Divine Mercy Chaplet or doing a Divine Mercy novena is an optional private devotion.

Unfortunately, not one Church in our entire county celebrates or even mentions Divine Mercy Sunday. And leaving our county means a long, hard drive over a mountain pass.

I’ve noticed that the Priest allows small Divine Mercy holy cards to be left on the side tables exiting the Church, but any substantial materials left there are removed. I take it he isn’t a fan.

I do hope this person is just uncharitable and ill-informed and not a troll.
 
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