Death Penalty

[abcdefg]

Death penalty only for abortionists and heretics. and I’d like the long drop hanging method be used

It’s much easier to forgive a serial killer with mental disorders than a fully conscious abortionist

 

[Steven_Merten]

selvaraj:

I voted no, death penalty is an arranged murder by society

God arranged for society to kill murderers not murder murderers.

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[Fashina86]

I think that the death penalty should only be used in extreme cases that would affect the overall welfare of the people. However, since we have an amazingly strong court system, then the need for it is a lot less than before and therefore should be used except in emergency cases.

God Bless–JMJ
Laura

 

[Kevin_Walker]

I am against the death penalty for two reasons:

1.) The legal system is not infallible and can easily sentence the wrong man to death, commiting a legal murder.

2.) The death penalty can be misused by powerful politicians as a form of legal execution by framing their political opponent for a capitol offense (such as treason) thereby using the law to remove a rival, again commiting legal murder.

The American Judicial System is a broken system and dangerous to society, it should be removed as a branch of government and privatized.

 

[Tyler_Smedley]

I think that the death penalty should not be used here in America, we are advanced enough that we can put people away for life. I also think that our prisons are too soft…we need to make sure that they are not comfortable there, no TV no movies no weight rooms…ect. I do think that if there is a situation where it would be extrememly hard to garuntee the safety of the people around them (third world countrys) then they should be given the death penalty.

 

[Tom_of_Assisi]

mtr01:

The Church teaches that the death penalty is acceptable only when the convict still poses a threat to innocent life. .

You are mistaken.

The death penalty is consistant with Church moral thrology. Usually socialists and secularists don’t favor the death penalty, but Christians historically have.

For close to 2,000 years, retribution (justice) was one of the reasons the Church gave in justifying and sanctioning the death penalty: this is infallibly defined as Church teachings. John Paul II in his recent encyclical (and the subsequent new Catechism) has essentially stripped any retribution or justice away from the death penalty: he has stated that in his opinion the death penalty should only be used as a form of self-defense…which in America and most societies would mean never. This is the Pope’s opinion, however, and is not binding on any of the faithful, and is not at all representative of Church moral teachings. The Pope cannot (and is not trying to) reverse 2,000 years of Church teachings on the matter.

 

[Christian4life]

I am pro-life and for the death penalty. I see no reason to reconcile the two. Innocent life is ALWAYS taken through abortion/euthenasia. People on death row all claim to be innocent, but most of them are cold-blooded killers. Given parole they can be out to kill again, and many do. Just as many, if not more, kill while in prison. Prison life is terrible and makes criminals even harder criminals, on the whole. It does not reform.

The death penalty is a strong detterant against crime. In states where there is a death penalty, and it is ENFORCED, the murder rates drop considerably. In the end it saves lives.

I disagree wholeheartedly that the death penalty contributes to the culture of death. Most pro-aborts I know are strongly, unanimously against it. And I think I know why.

Their thinking isn’t that killing is good, but rather, that people should be allowed to do whatever they want with a minimal amount of consequences. You kill, but no one kills you. You can rape, torture, maim, kill, and kill again, and still be treated “fairly” and not be punished for it.

There is a man who raped, tortured, beat and killed a beautiful teenage girl. He is in prison right now bragging about it, writing to women on the internet, and plotting his next crime. He has even made a website detailing his crime and has a whole barroge of “admirers” trying to follow his example. For people like this, the death penalty is TOO humane. He will be out someday. Watch out.

Secondly, when it comes to repentance, if being face to face with death doesn’t convert you, you are beyond hope.

 

[Kevin_Walker]

Tom of Assisi:

You are mistaken.

The death penalty is consistant with Church moral thrology. Usually socialists and secularists don’t favor the death penalty, but Christians historically have.

For close to 2,000 years, retribution (justice) was one of the reasons the Church gave in justifying and sanctioning the death penalty: this is infallibly defined as Church teachings. John Paul II in his recent encyclical (and the subsequent new Catechism) has essentially stripped any retribution or justice away from the death penalty: he has stated that in his opinion the death penalty should only be used as a form of self-defense…which in America and most societies would mean never. This is the Pope’s opinion, however, and is not binding on any of the faithful, and is not at all representative of Church moral teachings. The Pope cannot (and is not trying to) reverse 2,000 years of Church teachings on the matter.

What is the Church’s moral theology on a wrongful incarceration or a wrongful execution? Eye for an eye? If the wrong man gets the electric chair, I truly believe the Judge who sentenced him should get it next!

 

[Mycroft]

death penalty is not ok. we have no right to kill others. it is the ame as trying to play god. putting someone in prison for life will ensure them not hurting anyone else. the death penalty is cruel and unjust.

 

[Zooey]

I really struggled over my vote…I wanted to say that the death penalty should never be used, by anybody, but I realized that I could not morally decide, sitting here in the US, that people in asmall poor country somewhere without a prison system that they had to accept my opinion on capital punishment…I would like to, because I find it so totally in opposition to my firm belief that life does not belong to us, it belongs to God…

 

[Tyler_Smedley]

The Church teaches that it is moral and just in some cases. I do agree with the Holy Fathers opinion, that it should be used ever. But I also agree with Zooey that in the third world, the situation might not be what it is here. They might have no other recouse but to kill them rather then they hurting society further by thier crimes becasuse they can’t control them.

 

[Tom_of_Assisi]

Mycroft:

death penalty is not ok. we have no right to kill others. it is the ame as trying to play god. putting someone in prison for life will ensure them not hurting anyone else. the death penalty is cruel and unjust.

Your opinion…the Church does not share it. In the interests of justice, some people have to die as a consequence for what they have done: unfortunately for the socialists, actions do have consequences.

The real world is tough isn’t it? Sorry.

 

[Mycroft]

thats what i say to people about the old testament and the killing that God allowed. it was a different world then, no prisons where people could be locked up for the rest of their life. but in our country now there is no reason for killing someone.

 

[Tom_of_Assisi]

Mycroft:

thats what i say to people about the old testament and the killing that God allowed. it was a different world then, no prisons where people could be locked up for the rest of their life. but in our country now there is no reason for killing someone.

Curious…a different world. Human nature hasn’t changed an inch since Old Testament times…neither has God.

 

[Mycroft]

Tom of Assisi:

Curious…a different world. Human nature hasn’t changed an inch since Old Testament times…neither has God.

yeah to us it would sure seem like a differrent world wouldnt it? and did i say human nature or God changed? no. why dont you put some more words in my mouth? i said it was a different world because it was basically impossible to lock someone up for the rest of their lives. and we dont still abide by the eye for an eye rule either. jesus changed that.

 

[mlchance]

Mycroft:

thats what i say to people about the old testament and the killing that God allowed. it was a different world then, no prisons where people could be locked up for the rest of their life. but in our country now there is no reason for killing someone.

None? What if a prisoner is a danger to other prisoners? What is prisoner has the capability to order crimes committed against individuals outside of prison?

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[Mycroft]

mlchance:

None? What if a prisoner is a danger to other prisoners? What is prisoner has the capability to order crimes committed against individuals outside of prison?

so you think we should kill all the prisoners? because they all have the potential to hurt other prisoners or order crimes. now all your doing is throwing out lame excuses. or do you actually believe we should kill all prisoners?

your post really has nothing to do with the death penalty subject…

 

[pnewton]

Mycroft:

so you think we should kill all the prisoners? because they all have the potential to hurt other prisoners or order crimes. now all your doing is throwing out lame excuses. or do you actually believe we should kill all prisoners?

your post really has nothing to do with the death penalty subject…

The previous poster had a totally legitimate point germaine to the topic. The lives of other prisoners are a consideration, as is the potential for some to reach beyond the prison bars and continue a criminal activity.

Of course you do not kill every prisoner, that is where the concept of judgement and prudence come in. Smoe prisoners are predictably able to reach out with violence towards other, in prison and out.

I find this point the strongest arguement for a limited use of the death penalty in America.

 

[Mycroft]

pnewton:

The previous poster had a totally legitimate point germaine to the topic. The lives of other prisoners are a consideration, as is the potential for some to reach beyond the prison bars and continue a criminal activity.

Of course you do not kill every prisoner, that is where the concept of judgement and prudence come in. Smoe prisoners are predictably able to reach out with violence towards other, in prison and out.

I find this point the strongest arguement for a limited use of the death penalty in America.

you cant decide whetehr or not your goign to kill someone based on how you feel their potential is of hurting people while they are in prison. and if that was true then you would have to take into consideration all the prisoners, not just those who have comitted a grave crime. it also isnt really a strong point since that isnt why people are put on death row. the judge decides if the death penalty is applicable based on the crime, not on whether or not the person would be a threat inside prison. your just trying to come up with excuses as to why it should be kept legal. we are not god and cant decide who should live and who should die. we will all recieve judgement from god in the end.

 

[pnewton]

Mycroft:

you cant decide whetehr or not your goign to kill someone based on how you feel their potential is of hurting people while they are in prison… your just trying to come up with excuses as to why it should be kept legal. we are not god and cant decide who should live and who should die. we will all recieve judgement from god in the end.

I am trying to hold to the Catholic position on the subject. Capital punishment is not murder and it is allowed with in the narrow conditions outlined in the Catechism. We are not playing God.

Potential for future harm should be and is a deciding factor on the application of the death penalty in Texas. It is illogical to claim that it should not be a factor because we can not use it to put lesser criminals to death. Lesser crimes do not merit the death penalty.