Defending a Higher Law: Why We Must Resist Same-sex “Marriage”

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WillieWonka said:
You made the claim, so, I presume you know the answer. Go ahead. Don’t pass it off to someone else. Give it a try.

I figure the image of God would have three sexes if God is actually three persons. Now, if god were two persons, two sexes would make sense.
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Is this a test or are you truly looking to learn? If you want to learn check out the links I provide. They do much better job than I ever could. I am simply a humble servant hoping to give you more insight.
 
buffalo said:
Is this a test or are you truly looking to learn? If you want to learn check out the links I provide. They do much better job than I ever could. I am simply a humble servant hoping to give you more insight.
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In other words, you really don’t understand the links you post. If you did, you would be able to explain them in your own words.

From what I can see your real purpose is to post your links and then accuse anyone who questions you of not understanding their faith.

Unfortunately for you, the Pope has not yet appointed you the arbiter of who is Catholic and who isn’t.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
Wrong. When two people love each other in a legitimate union, a third is produced that is the fruit of that love. The result of the love between the first two persons of the Trinity is the third person, the Holy Spirit. Two gay people cannot intrinsically produce a third.
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Adam, Eve, and Steve?
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
Dream on.

Being Catholic is not a mortal sin. Mortal sin is always indefensible, yet the homosexual activists not only demand that you embrace it, they can now prosecute.

As J Denise stated, mortal sinfulness harms the individual, the society, the cosmos. We cannot serve both God and the devil.
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The bill that prohibits descrimination against Catholics in hiring is the same one that would prohibit it against gays. The law doesn’t mention sin.
 
buffalo said:
Is this a test or are you truly looking to learn? If you want to learn check out the links I provide. They do much better job than I ever could. I am simply a humble servant hoping to give you more insight.
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You are making the claims here yourself, not those authors. It’s OK if you don’t know the amswers.
 
WillieWonka said:
It’s OK if anyone doesn’t know the answers.
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You are right - I do not know all the answers. But if I want the truth I know where to look.

Start with the Catechism - the sure norm for teaching. The Vatican site is a winner.

Good old catholic.com does a great job, and on and on and on.

If you want to learn the truth look in the places it is expounded.

So did you read the links and get your answers?
 
buffalo said:
You are right - I do not know all the answers. But if I want the truth I know where to look.

Start with the Catechism - the sure norm for teaching. The Vatican site is a winner.

Good old catholic.com does a great job, and on and on and on.

If you want to learn the truth look in the places it is expounded.

So did you read the links and get your answers?
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No. I never read links unless they support something the commenter says. Simply throwing out links isn’t good enough to get me to read. I need a reason. I expect people to speak for themselves, and not pass their argumant off to someone else.

Often a poster will quote somethig from a document, then post the link to it. If I am interested, I will then check the link. Otherwise, I ignore it.
 
Hey you guys…I hate to sidebust…but…I was thinking I’d throw this out there and see if either side has any info-comments…

like, ok, we could sit here and argue each side…or speculate about what could happen…but the proof is in the pudding right?? isnt there already european countries, the one coming to mind is scandinavia, that have already implented same sex marriage??? and from what I’ve gathered its not working out to well for them, it already has completed undermined the institution of marriage and theyre having all kinds of society issues…the whole family structure is disentigrating…

or so Ive heard…

I seen Diane Finestein? I think it was, or Boxer…I get em’ confused…on the Dr. Phil show and someone brought that up…her response was ‘Oh, what does that have to do with california’ I remember thinking what a stupid way of thinking??? Doesnt matter where in the world it happened…people are people…thats got to be some kind of predessesor as to what would happen here…to just sidestep the fact of what HAS happened when same sex marriage is legal will not change the outcome for us…
 
Charlotte408 said:
Hey you guys…I hate to sidebust…but…I was thinking I’d throw this out there and see if either side has any info-comments…

like, ok, we could sit here and argue each side…or speculate about what could happen…but the proof is in the pudding right?? isnt there already european countries, the one coming to mind is scandinavia, that have already implented same sex marriage??? and from what I’ve gathered its not working out to well for them, it already has completed undermined the institution of marriage and theyre having all kinds of society issues…the whole family structure is disentigrating…

or so Ive heard…

I seen Diane Finestein? I think it was, or Boxer…I get em’ confused…on the Dr. Phil show and someone brought that up…her response was ‘Oh, what does that have to do with california’ I remember thinking what a stupid way of thinking??? Doesnt matter where in the world it happened…people are people…thats got to be some kind of predessesor as to what would happen here…to just sidestep the fact of what HAS happened when same sex marriage is legal will not change the outcome for us…
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I think same sex marriage was legalized in Sweden in 1995. Divorce has steadily increased since 1995, so folks blame gay marriage. Makes sense, doesn’t it?

Well, suppose we look back to 1970? Divorce had been steadily increasing from 1970 to 1995, and continued to increase after 1995. So, does it make sense to blame that on gay marriage?

We might look closer to home and ask what has happened in Massachusetts. It’s a mistake to accept anyone’s conclusions without asking for specifics. So, when someone says marriage has been harmed, ask what the specific harm is. Unless one can point to specifics, point to real phenomenon, there is no basis for any general conclusion. All we are left with is their unsupported opinions.

The other thing you will notice is confusion between correlation and causality. Correlation means two things happened. But causality means one can show how one caused the other. Correlation without demonstrating causality is meaningless.

For example, the HBO TV show True Blood started in 2008. Obama was elected in 2008. That is a correlation. Does that mean True Blood caused Obama to be elected?
 
WW,
Since you deliberately don’t list your affiliation, and since many of your responses are immature (Steve being Eve’s partner, rather than Adam obviously being Eve’s partner), and since you seem uninterested in engaging in intellectual back-and-forth, I take it that your presence here is not intended to contribute to serious debate but rather to be a saboteur.
 
WillieWonka said:
Knowing the transcendent form of intrinsic unity flowing from the well of introspective trilateralism proceeds in the primary substantive form to the exogenous examination of the endogenous reveals Adam, Eve, and Steve.
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Of the three, which is the primary generator?
 
Originally Posted by Elizabeth502 forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
Wrong. When two people love each other in a legitimate union, a third is produced that is the fruit of that love. The result of the love between the first two persons of the Trinity is the third person, the Holy Spirit. Two gay people cannot intrinsically produce a third.
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WillieWonka said:
Adam, Eve, and Steve?
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God is absolutely simple. your combination of three lacks the simplicity of absolute unity. As stated before, Unity is formed in knowledge. Again the Adam Eve and Steve combination lacks the simplicity of knowledge and unity to be in the image of the Trninitarian God.
 
WillieWonka said:
No. I never read links unless they support something the commenter says. Simply throwing out links isn’t good enough to get me to read. I need a reason. I expect people to speak for themselves, and not pass their argumant off to someone else.

Often a poster will quote somethig from a document, then post the link to it. If I am interested, I will then check the link. Otherwise, I ignore it.
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Now that shows real interest. Deliberately limit your knowledge. Sounds intelligent to me. 😦 What are you afraid of? The truth?

The truth will set you free.
 
buffalo said:
Now that shows real interest. Deliberately limit your knowledge. Sounds intelligent to me. 😦 What are you afraid of? The truth?
The truth will set you free.
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Elizabeth502
WW,
Since you deliberately don’t list your affiliation, and since many of your responses are immature (Steve being Eve’s partner, rather than Adam obviously being Eve’s partner), and since you seem uninterested in engaging in intellectual back-and-forth, I take it that your presence here is not intended to contribute to serious debate but rather to be a saboteur.
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Buffalo, Elizabeth, you both bring up points evident in WillieWonka’s posts
Originally Posted by WillieWonka forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_khaki/viewpost.gif
No. I never read links unless they support something the commenter says. Simply throwing out links isn’t good enough to get me to read. I need a reason.** I expect people to speak for themselves, and not pass their argumant off to someone else.**

*Often a poster will quote somethig from a document, then post the link to it. *If I am interested, I will then check the link. Otherwise, I ignore it.
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WillieWonka

It seems your motivation for debate is not a sincere exchange of ideas but competition.

Can it be assumed that truth is not a necessary component that forms your reason to be here?
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Benadam said:
God is absolutely simple. your combination of three lacks the simplicity of absolute unity. As stated before, Unity is formed in knowledge. Again the Adam Eve and Steve combination lacks the simplicity of knowledge and unity to be in the image of the Trninitarian God.
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Like I said, trinitarian god, trinitarian genders. That’s the mage. Simple. Elegant.
 
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