This is also a difference in understanding. I think most mainline protestant churches those that grew out of the Reformation would say that we separated from the Roman Catholic Church at that time but that our founding was still with Christ. I agree that there is a fine line but that’s how Anglicans in particular view ourselves.
Well that and the Act of Contrition which relate directly to communion and confession. But your right. Here to is a Gift from God, when used as taught it will lead you to stop sinning. You will either stop going to confession, or you will stop sinning.
it is a fine line, and most of my discussions with protestants are with those who aren’t “high church” types, I am ill prepared to discuss differences with Anglicanism, but I imagine that the original poster is not a high church type of protestant.
Regardess how one views themselves, the only situation we have to look at is the predominatly Protestant countrys such as the USA to see how well the protestant faith has served God in 500 years? This is not a shining example for the Protestant Faith. So what country is?
Gary,
Anglican Holy Eucharist contains a penetenial rite, see below from the current Episcopal BCP:
I don’t think you want to go down that road unless you can establish that predominantly Catholic countries such as France and Italy have a better track record in faith and morality issues.
Worth a shot.
I was just thinking about this…
I agree that provenance is not a single guide to ascertain that a piece of art is an original, but it is a very good one. Simply because this topic has been “hashed” many times on this web site, does not lessen its importance or value. All Protestant churches will struggle with this issue because it is a real issue. The constant questions will be: “Who created my church?” “Did the founder of my church claim direction from God to create it?” “Does God approve of all these churches?” “Is there value in in all people belonging to one faith, one baptism, and one Church?”Provenance cannot be a sole guide to truth. Do you also like classical music? Richard Wagner was an undeniably wretched human being, but there is no denying that his music soars and transcends basic human life and reveals something far greater than ourselves. I think you’d find Anglicans that disgree but many would agree that Peter was given the keys. (there’s even a window of Peter at our church and he has the keys in the window) but our understanding is different. I don’t really want to get into that because its been hashed and rehashed to death on this website and its not really worth the energy at this point.
And you are welcome to them. Anglicans can have valid holy orders because sex is not the determining matter of the sacrament. Anyone can be a priest if they are called.
This is not correct, nhylan. Valid Holy orders can only come from Christ, and He has not given the Church the authority to ordain women.
The first sentence is a silly argument, the same could be said of you. The Catholic reasons for Anglican’s having invalid orders are completely, first off, wrong. If you knew anything about the issue besides what Catholic.com says you might not be so swift to discount Anglican orders. There are even Catholics on this site that believe Anglicans do have holy orders. I could continue to argue about female priests but we won’t get anywhere. I can show you all my evidence that says you can have female priests and then you can give me all your evidence to the contrary and we won’t ever convince the other.
Agree’d…If we view this statement under a critical view, we then see how Sola Scriptura has evolved in many different directions. Its hurting mankind in the civil world without a doubt.
I understand that there are some Anglican bishoprics that may be considered valid. I have not kept up on the dialogues for the reunification, so maybe they are re-commissioning conditionally?