Defining what being a racist is

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Jeanne_S said:
How many illegals has NP welcomed into her mansion which btw has a fortress around it, She is just one among many. If you think for one second she cares about the people flooding our borders you’re are naive .The whole lot of them are hypocrites. Trump at least has the courage to speak his mind regardless of how it’s received.Where as most there on capital gill have their finger in the air. They don’t impress me.They shouldn’t impress any of us
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What are you even talking about? The thread is about whether it is offensive to tell elected members of Congress that they don’t have the standing to be telling Americans how to run their government.
My point was that he was talking about progressive Congresswomen going back to “their countries” and yet it is claimed that this would include women in his racial group. OK…perhaps that is a fair defense. Just tell us: which progressive congresswomen from each racial group was he referring to?
 
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Change a letter or word in your post so that it can show up again.

There needs to me some accountability for flag-snitching on here.
YourNameHere said:
How would you define a racist?
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I don’t like over-thinking things, so I consulted withmy good 'ol buddy Mr. Webster:

Definition of racism​

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b : a political or social system founded on racism

3 : racial prejudice or discrimination
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I understand and appreciate what you’re trying to do here. But a person will own up to a racist remark as soon as a rock-bottom alcoholic owns up to addiction.

Confronting people about racist remarks and behavior is only making them more defensive. I’ll have to put some thought on an alternative . . . .
 
I see him as having an extreme “executive mindset.” He is interested in results. He admires and expects to be admired for his results. And he expects results from others.
 
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PetraG said:
Which progressive European nation was he referring to when he said, “countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all).”
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Again, your contention that that description could not possibly refer to a European nation and only non-European nations is itself very problematic
 
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SMHW said:
I see him as having an extreme “executive mindset.” He is interested in results. He admires and expects to be admired for his results. And he expects results from others.
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Yes, well, what did Donald Trump say when his predecessor was guilty of “extreme executive mindset”? He said he was guilty of “major power grabs of authority.”

Why was it inappropriate when Obama did it but “getting results” when Trump does it? I’d say they were both examples of executive overreach.

I don’t think I can’t count all of Donald Trump’s expectations for the President that have totally changed since he took office. That isn’t too surprising, but the defenses of his behavior for those who were hopping mad about the principle of the thing when Obama did it beggars belief.
 
Aquinas11 said:
Again, your contention that that description could not possibly refer to a European nation and only non-European nations is itself very problematic
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I asked you to name the progressive Congresswomen he was referring to, since you’re implying that they aren’t all in racial groups other than the President’s. Just tell me who is being overlooked, and I can stand corrected. Since he specifically wrote that Pelosi would send them, he obviously isn’t asking her to leave. Who is he asking to leave?

And…while we’re at it…why was he only proposing to ship the women off? He’s OK with progressive congressmen who get uppity, but when congresswomen do it, he want to send them back to where their grandparents were born? That’s pretty saucy for the grandson of an immigrant, I’d say.
 
It is no longer possible to define racism. It has become a powerful but meaningless politically charged word, co-opted by the progressive left, used primarily to silence or marginalize those who disagree with them.

A good watch:

 
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AlmaRedemptorisMater said:
And yet, he will likely win again.
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Since he has done his best to preempt any opposition from within his own party and since the Democrats seem to be taking aim to shoot themselves in the foot by imagining the entire country really rejected Hillary Clinton because she wasn’t far enough to the left, it is certainly possible.
 
Aquinas11 said:
Pelosi? Who said “Make America White Again”? NOw that’s textbook racism
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Well, yes, that is what she was accusing him of. I don’t think that’s a secret.
(Are you offended because she is blunt? Hey, don’t worry about it, that is “just Pelosi being Pelosi.” She had no intention to make a remark that could be construed as racist. Don’t jump to conclusions about what she meant; that would not be fair to her.)
 
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PetraG said:
She had no intention to make a remark that could be construed as racist.
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So “Make America White Again” is not racist

But “if they don’t like it here, they can go home” is racist

Everyone now see how this works?
 
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You’re the one who brought up illegal and their kids I was responding to your comments
 
Wait a minute. Do you know that Catholics were hated and persecuted in this country just less than 150 years ago. People wanted them out of the U.S. Even when JFK ran for president many people said they wouldn’t vote for a Catholic. How would that make you feel?
 
Vanny said:
According to those on the left:
George W. Bush was Racist.
Mitt Romney was racist.
Nancy Pelosi is racist
Joe Biden is racist.
Pro-lifers are racists.
Throwing around this word is making it lose it’s meaning.
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The comparisons fail to prove anything. Pointing out a subset of more extreme people that call everybody racist is a way of deflecting the question. No, 50% of the country is not calling everybody racist.

This is the truth: in the year 2004, George Bush was President of the United States and if he had said what Donald Trump said, he would have been eaten alive to apologize by the fellow members of his party. There wouldn’t have been widespread accusations that people are oversensitive to racism if somebody says something blantently inappropriate. George Bush did not and would never tell his political opponents of color to “Go back where they came from”.

But the nation has collective amnesia and this is now the new normal.
 
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Trump definitely shouldn’t have said something like that and even if it wasn’t racist, it isn’t exactly becoming. It would be best to dissociate from this side of Trump at least.
Now don’t mention the Left, because having dignity for dignity’s sake is something to consider.
 
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While I’m not really a fan of Trump’s tweets, I don’t think he’s a racist. Crude and unpolished,maybe.
I don’t think a person gets to be 70 years old and live the public life that he has
and then was never called racist until he ran for President in 2016 by the
progressive left with their Saul Alinsky tactics.
I find the progressive left and their vision for this country frightening.
God help us if those who think like these 4 women gets the Presidency.
 
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Vanny said:
According to those on the left:
George W. Bush was Racist.
Mitt Romney was racist.
Nancy Pelosi is racist
Joe Biden is racist.
Pro-lifers are racists.
Throwing around this word is making it lose it’s meaning.
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Now, according to AOC, being against Communism is racist!
 
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