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cornbread_r2 said:
I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
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Exodus 20:2-4
Ring a bell?
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:confused: Ok. You lost me. Yes… that is a tenent of Faith for Believers.

Show me where Christianity says: ‘Convert everyone to Christianity - and if they do not convert, kill them all.’ :rolleyes:

It is *this *that Atheism has done in the past in an incomparable manner. I reiterate, Stalin for just one example.

Now, whose bell has been rung, exactly?
 
Nimzovik said:
Bolding MIne:

Yes, I can certainly understand a Secularist applauding the triumph of Secularism in the Democratic Party.

However…, give this a think. Isn’t it curious that the **Democrats **did not Deny Secularism? I mean where is the… representation… of it’s constituents :rolleyes::cool:
The linked film seems to indicate that the Party members - for the *moment *at least, (perhaps at least until they get elected;)) voted God back in - yes?

Ahemmmmmmmmmmmm?😃
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I would not call it non-sequitor, no. A conscientious effort to avoid something because of perceived bad consequences does illustrate disdain for the thin you are trying to avoid. This applies to both moral and immoral objects. I have fear of the consequences of sin and therefor attempt to avoid sin, as such I have disdain for sin. Similarly, in this instance. The Dem’s initially feared reprisal by their secularist members and therefore sought to avoid the inclusion of God in their platform. This illustrates disdain for God. Later, upon review, they determined that they were probably more hurt by avoiding reference to God than by including them, and therefore re-added it. This shows further disdain for God because they only invoked his name in order to win people over. (This would be similar to me denying God so as to avoid ridicule)

I’ll admit that it may have been an honest mistake, but at the same time that still shows that God is not at the center of their political platform and is at best an afterthought to them.

As for your other argument, about them not denying secularism, they did, and it showed nothing but contempt for their own party. It further shows that they are willing to do whatever they have to to win, even ignore their own people.

Yes, they voted God back in, but not because they honor God, but rather because they view him as a tool. That is pride, and that is THE sin.
 
cornbread_r2 said:
I would disagree that that is the only logical conclusion. I can easily imagine a committed Christian and secularist voting to not include the Christian god in a platform – designed to elect a candidate expected lead a secular form of government – without the slightest fear of God being offended in the least.
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I fail to see your reasoning* here*…

Without a God influence in Gov’t, why, there is no absolute standard! No inalienable rights! Why…* anything, just absolutely anything would be permissable! Anything! Why heavens! Even* abortion** might be permissable!:eek:

OOOoooooooooops!:cool:
 
ProdglArchitect said:
I would not call it non-sequitor, no. A conscientious effort to avoid something because of perceived bad consequences does illustrate disdain for the thin you are trying to avoid. This applies to both moral and immoral objects. I have fear the consequences of sin and therefor attempt to avoid sin, as such have disdain for sin. Similarly, in this instance. The Dem’s initially feared reprisal by their secularist members and therefore sought to avoid the inclusion of God in their platform. This illustrates disdain for God. Later, upon review, they determined that they were probably more hurt by avoiding reference to God than by including them, and therefore re-added it. This shows further disdain for God because they only invoked his name in order to win people over. (This would be similar to me denying God so as to avoid ridicule)

I’ll admit that it may have been an honest mistake, but at the same time that still shows that God is not at the center of their political platform and is at best an afterthought to them.

As for your other argument, about them not denying secularism, they did, and it showed nothing but contempt for their own party. It further shows that they are willing to do whatever they have to to win, even ignore their own people.

Yes, they voted God back in, but not because they honor God, but rather because they view him as a tool. That is pride, and that is THE sin.
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Indeed. Rather astute observations. Sadly, all too true.😦
 
sedonaman said:
What a sham. “We pretend to vote; you pretend to count the votes.” [To borrow an old saying.]
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Indeed. Well said.

Then of course there are the voting machines themselves, -machines- that will … ahem…tally said votes. Hmmmmmmmmm … I wonder… Are these new vote counting machines ‘Made in Chicago’? :cool:
 
Nimzovik said:
Indeed. Well said.

Then of course there are the voting machines themselves, -machines- that will … ahem…tally said votes. Hmmmmmmmmm … I wonder… Are these new vote counting machines ‘Made in Chicago’? :cool:
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I have faith they will come up with the “correct” tally. 😛
 
Nimzovik said:
I certainly understand God not tolerating being referred to as a Democrat or a Republican. Both Paties have blood on their hands as I see it.

However! To totally** deny** God, for the Democratic Party to make it a Plank of their platform, to deny the rich heritage of this once Great Nation, to place all** inalienable rights** given to humans** by** God, and to* replace* God with…what…? The President?
Is the epitome of absurdity!

No. It is worse than that. It is evil.:cool:
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and insanity…and really really sick. Seems to me there is a substantial number of Democratic leaders that really really need their meds…or an exorcist.
 
This happened live from the floor of the convention how is that spin?
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Fox spent hours yesterday analyzing the voice vote…replaying tape of the event. Mind you, I don’t know anything for certain, since I wasn’t there, but I know that sound recorded from one area of an arena is not proof of anything. Sound reflects, is absorbed, reverberates and so on and your location can make a great deal of difference.

Spin can also include an over-emphasis on an issue that is very minor in the grand scheme.

BTW, I believe the whole fiasco was a very dumb move on part of the Democrats. Similar in stupidity to the vote on representation conducted by the Republicans.

John
 
oldcelt said:
Fox spent hours yesterday analyzing the voice vote…replaying tape of the event. Mind you, I don’t know anything for certain, since I wasn’t there, but I know that sound recorded from one area of an arena is not proof of anything. Sound reflects, is absorbed, reverberates and so on and your location can make a great deal of difference.

Spin can also include an over-emphasis on an issue that is very minor in the grand scheme.

BTW, I believe the whole fiasco was a very dumb move on part of the Democrats. Similar in stupidity to the vote on representation conducted by the Republicans.

John
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So if it was so clear that there was a 2/3 majority then why was there 3 votes and a pow wow before the vote was called?

And even more important why was the teleprompter photographed with the text showing calling the vote affirmative.
 
yukonbrad said:
Romney should hit Obama with this in the debates:

R: Do you believe in democracy Mr Obama?

O:Yes of course!

R: Well your party certianly doesn’t! (reference the vote in Charlotte)
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Problem with that is the RNC had the same shenanigans going on with delegates being locked out of voting for their candidate.
 
So if it was so clear that there was a 2/3 majority then why was there 3 votes and a pow wow before the vote was called?
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And even more important why was the teleprompter photographed with the text showing calling the vote affirmative.
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Point one, as I said, I wasn’t there, but the fact that they called for three votes indicates that the chair was trying to get it right. As to the pow-wow…does anyone know what was said there? I know I don’t.

Regarding teleprompter, as has been stated by many on this forum, conventions have become so scripted that they plan for every contingency. Did you happen to notice the blank one on the right. That probably contained the script should the motion fail.

In the opinion of the chair, which is how voice votes are done, it passed.

So, how about that Republican vote on choosing representatives?

Didn’t see Fox dwell on that for long.

John
 
oldcelt said:
…Regarding teleprompter, as has been stated by many on this forum, conventions have become so scripted that they plan for every contingency. Did you happen to notice the blank one on the right. That probably contained the script should the motion fail.
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Why would you even need a teleprompter for something so simple?
 
Why would you even need a teleprompter for something so simple?
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I agree completely…it’s all part of the modern media age and control I guess.

John
 
_Abyssinia said:
Want to know why a teleprompter said before the vote took place that a 2/3rd majority ruled to put God and Jerususlm back in the platform
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Bigger question. Why does the DNC chairman **need **a telepromter to simply state the results of a vote?
 
To say the Republicans have done similar ‘shenanigans’ avoids the** real** issue. One can not point to a (Hyothetical) wrong of the Republicans to justify a wrong by the Democrats.

All this finger pointing avoids the* truly* Alarming true issue of whether or not God should even be a Plank of the Democrat Platform.:eek:

We currently see the fundamental ‘War on Religion’ via the Secular Democrat** Party that the** elite** (Read: de facto controlling leadership) elements are manuvering to effect.

We have seen what Godless Secular Governments have perpetrated in other Countries already! China. Russia. You want more?:cool:

Are we blind to this:confused:

We can not even* begin* to imagine the atrocities to Religion, and subsequently the Country, the opening of the door of the HHS mandate will* inflict* upon us all.

Then there is the Gay Marriage issue the Democrats wink at and that** Obama** himself has retracted his opposition to it’s occurence.

Oh. Then, there is that little …er…uh…triviality < --------sarcasm… that Planned Parenhood funds the Obama bid for re-election. Which of course results in Abortion for all - even minors without Parental consent. :eek: A Pedophiles dream! Wheee! It’s a ‘Woman’s Privacy Issue’ to keep an abortion private. Ergo, with pressure by the Pedophile on the poor child, no one need know! IMHO Planned Parenthood is uh… shall we say…less than forthcoming in reportage to the requisite authorities, IMHO? See here wnd.com/2002/12/16451/ and here prolifewaco.org/ppwaco_statutory_rape.htm oh…* and** here: plannedparenthoodcorruption.org/news/links-to-national-coverage-of-recent-news-about-destruction-of-evidence-and-failure-to-report-child-rape-in-kansas/ . *
Believe me. There are many more subject related links available.

Oh. Then there is the Sexualizing of our children via the, IMHO, Planned Parenhood controlled sex education curriculum for what (?)- grade school aged kids? You want a** link?** Oh. Then there is the Birth Contol mentality instilled in the Girl Scouts by…can you guess who? Ahmmmmmmm…?

Ok. Some here may not be able to vote for Romney. It grates on them. Ok. I can* get* that.

What I do **not **get, what I will never get, is how a Catholic can rationalize voting for the Democrats, in *particualr *for Obama.🤷

What? You vote for your wallet instead of your conscience? Instead of voting to end the Holocaust of aborting children? What? Are you pro Gay Marriage? Please! Which part of you (you, as in the general sense of the readership of the thread) *claims *to be Catholic? I really want to know.:banghead:

If we kill our very own children,😊 I ask you, how. How does one expect God to bless America with a wonderful economy? Did not Fatima inform us that war is a punishment for disobedience?

Lord have Mercy…Lord have Mercy…Lord…:signofcross:
 
All this finger pointing avoids the truly Alarming issue of whether or not God should even be a Plank of the Democrat Platform
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Or any platform for that matter.
 
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