Democratic convention

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oldcelt said:
The difference being that the US flag is a secular object, while God, most certainly, is not.

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Yes… However your original comments on this matter were referencing God being used as a Point in Political debates - yes?

I would personally* love* to see the Democrats* try* to argue for Abortion while waving just such a flag as Joan’s Flag. Such - to use Carl Jung’s term -psyche (o) - active symbology would *indeed *have an effect of sorts… Yes?😉

However, it must be recognized that the temerity of the Democrats knows no limits… I suppose…

Methinks that use by the Democrats of a similar flag of St. Joan’s quality, would highlight the inanity of their position even more so…

Just IMHO, of course…:cool:
 
estesbob said:
So it is my God given responsibility to pay for other peoples contraception?
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Did I say that? Not at all. If you are not paying insurance premiums for people using contraceptives (which I believe is the stance you already took) then you are not paying for other people’s contraception.

It is however, our collective responsibility to contribute towards the common good (basic education, health care etc). We may legitimately disagree on what components should be included in these services, but the concept of collective responsibility for each other’s good is morally sound. Not to mention that it also makes commonsense to aim for a society where people’s basic needs are not neglected, as this contributes to stability and productivity.
 
Ender said:
The belief that a government that can define our unalienable rights will be benign is contradicted by the evidence.

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That seems to be your belief about other people’s beliefs - it is certainly not mine. Still, I don’t believe that the source of people’s rights is what makes them inalienable.

Even if I believe that my rights are conferred by birthplace or by inheritance, they are still inalienable - i.e. they may not be taken away. By contrast, if a government took an atheistic stance and rejected the very concept of God, then why would it matter to them that rights are God-given?

Government is duty-bound to respect the people’s rights no matter regardless of where anyone believes they come from.
 
seekerz said:
Did I say that? Not at all. If you are not paying insurance premiums for people using contraceptives (which I believe is the stance you already took) then you are not paying for other people’s contraception.

It is however, our** collective** responsibility to contribute towards the common good (basic education, health care etc). We may legitimately disagree on what components should be included in these services, but the concept of collective responsibility for each other’s good is morally sound. Not to mention that it also makes commonsense to aim for a society where people’s basic needs are not neglected, as this contributes to stability and productivity.
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Oh yes?The communists employed the concept of ‘collectives’ too… Hmmmmmmm… Now just where did *that *lead them too?

To inflict an amoral law upon people in the name of Charity is heinous.
Today health Care (as defined by Planned Parenthood IMHO, let’s face the *truth *here gentlemen. Just follow the money trail) tommorrow food and shelter. A car. A house. In other words, Socialism. All under Gov’t Control. Has not History taught us that lesson ***already? *Hmmmmmmm… Remember the origins of Volkswagen?:cool:
 
Yet in the same breath, they whine lyrical about how the government’s all up in their business, blah blah blah. Hey, isn’t this what they wanted in the first place? :rolleyes:

Only a couple more months to go until election day.
 
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