Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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Mulligan2 said:
Here’s what I like: the fact that the Democratic primary can be fiercely contested, but that it is contested primarily on ideas - not on personal attacks. I like the fact that Senator Sanders, while no doubt disappointed with the outcome of the primary, forcefully endorsed Hillary Clinton for POTUS. 👍

This is a stark contrast to the GOP primary, where the runner-up refused to endorse the nominee and urged everyone to vote their conscience instead. :eek:
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The ‘Never Clinton’ Campaign

At least some supporters of the Vermont senator insist they won’t vote for Clinton, no matter what. Many view the former secretary of state with her deep ties to the Democratic establishment as the polar opposite of Sanders and his rallying cry of political revolution. Throwing their weight behind her White House bid would feel like a betrayal of everything they believe.

These voters express unwavering dedication to Sanders on social media, deploying hashtags like NeverClinton and NeverHillary, and circulating petitions like www.wontvotehillary.com, which asks visitors to promise “under no circumstances will I vote for Hillary Clinton.” It’s garnered more than 56,500 signatures so far. Many feel alienated by the Democratic Party. They may want unity, but not if it means a stamp of approval for a political status quo they believe is fundamentally flawed and needs to be fixed.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Glenn Beck can think about the DNC what he likes, I haven’t seen much of it myself, only seen a few very short clips and commentary, but Glenn Beck has said he will “probably vote for Gary Johnson” - alibertarianfuture.com/2016-election/glenn-beck-will-probably-vote-gary-johnson/#sthash.G9d5vWDK.dpbs

Gary Johnson has said he sides with Bernie Sanders on 73% of issues:
m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078

Gary Johnson is pro-choice. Isn’t Glenn Beck pro-life? I wonder if any of Glenn Beck’a radio listeners have stopped listening to his radio show after finding how his likely voting intentions.
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LOL. You and others on CAF sure are pushing for Sanders’ voters to vote 3rd party. Don’t you think the Republican can win otherwise? The Libertarian candidate hardly represents Bernie Sanders though on domestic policy, economics, healthcare, education, and the role government can play to better the lives of people. Bernie Sanders laid it on the line for his supporters last night at the Democratic National Convention.
 
gilliam said:
That is how primaries normally are with both parties in the US. Everything is decided by the party bosses off stage and prior to the convention.
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In your words, how primaries NORMALLY are. In other words, for a primary to have descended into name calling and ad hominem attacks, ala the Trump campaign, is abnormal, and thankfully so. I don’t want to endure another primary season where indecency passes for “news.” :o
gilliam said:
However the convention rejected that idea and he was boo’d off stage.
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Yes, but Cruz’s comments were a stunning rebuke of their nominee. It was one of those convention “moments” that will be discussed for years to come.
 
Mulligan2 said:
In your words, how primaries NORMALLY are. In other words, for a primary to have descended into name calling and ad hominem attacks, ala the Trump campaign, is abnormal, and thankfully so. I don’t want to endure another primary season where indecency passes for “news.” :o
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Actually name calling isn’t all that unusual. That the candidate uses it as extensively as Trump and Hillary have and are, is very unusual. Normally a surrogate does the name calling. Often the VP candidate participates as well.
Yes, but Cruz’s comments were a stunning rebuke of their nominee. It was one of those convention “moments” that will be discussed for years to come.
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Yep, and we will see if Cruz ruined his political carrier with the move or not. It was definitely political theater at its best. 🙂
 
_Abyssinia said:
Glenn Beck can think about the DNC what he likes, I haven’t seen much of it myself, only seen a few very short clips and commentary, but Glenn Beck has said he will “probably vote for Gary Johnson” - alibertarianfuture.com/2016-election/glenn-beck-will-probably-vote-gary-johnson/#sthash.G9d5vWDK.dpbs

Gary Johnson has said he sides with Bernie Sanders on 73% of issues: m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/03/gary-johnson-i-agree-with-73-percent-of-what-sanders-says-you-know-n2172078

Gary Johnson is pro-choice. Isn’t Glenn Beck pro-life? I wonder if any of Glenn Beck’a radio listeners have stopped listening to his radio show after finding how his likely voting intentions.
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Gary Johnson is against abortion when the fetus is viable, so I think his position is better than Hillary Clinton’s. When governor of New Mexico he signed a bill outlawing partial birth abortion. He also thinks the legality of abortion should be decided at the state level.
 
Mulligan2 said:
Here’s what I like: the fact that the Democratic primary can be fiercely contested, but that it is contested primarily on ideas - not on personal attacks. I like the fact that Senator Sanders, while no doubt disappointed with the outcome of the primary, forcefully endorsed Hillary Clinton for POTUS. 👍

This is a stark contrast to the GOP primary, where the runner-up refused to endorse the nominee and urged everyone to vote their conscience instead. :eek:
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So tell me again how they can praise the content of both speeches when they directly contradict each other. And tell me again about the great unity in the democrat party that they couldn’t even make it through the invocation without delegates booing. Tell me again how trying to use Sanders religion against him is not a personal attack? And why were people chanting “we trusted you” when Warren spoke? Was that another sign of unity? was that a compliment or a personal attack?
 
People need to understand:

No one will remember the content of any convention speech. What they will remember, if anything, is the impression the entire convention left them with.
 
estesbob said:
So tell me again how they can praise the content of both speeches when they directly contradict each other. And tell me again about the great unity in the democrat party that they couldn’t even make it through the invocation without delegates booing. Tell me again how trying to use Sanders religion against him is not a personal attack? And why were people chanting “we trusted you” when Warren spoke? Was that another sign of unity? was that a compliment or a personal attack?
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Are these the Fox News talking points of the day? :rolleyes:
 
gracepoole said:
The old “Trump is an outsider” mantra is pretty laughable. No one stands for the status quo of benefiting big businesses quite like him.
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If you were able to follow the argument I made, and the whole campaign surrounding, you would recognize that Trump is indeed an outsider to the GOP machine.

The insiders were people like Jeb Bush and even Marco Rubio, or any of the governors.
 
qui_est_ce said:
I’d like to know why Personnanongrata believes that people don’t understand the remark because they are “upset” by the Obamas being in the WH. Because I don’t like Obama’s policies,
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Then it’s assumed you don’t like the Obamas being in the WH.
qui_est_ce said:
I have been told that I don’t like the Obamas and that I’m racist. I dislike having to defend myself by by using the cliche that some of my best friends/politicians/judges/etc. are black.
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I wouldn’t if I were you. That’s really not a winning approach to disproving one’s alleged racism.
 
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gilliam said:
People need to understand:

No one will remember the content of any convention speech. What they will remember, if anything, is the impression the entire convention left them with.
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This is very true. As the old saying goes, people don’t remember what you say to them but they will remember how you make them feel.

The media’s role in shaping these perceptions, though, is where things get murky.
 
queenofheartscv said:
The media’s role in shaping these perceptions, though, is where things get murky.
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The media has a huge role in shaping perceptions. With the undecided voters the media’s role becomes more and more from Labor Day to November.
 
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