Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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Protecting the gay community from assults doesn’t necessarily mean an endorsement of the lifestyle.However,I don’t really believevTrump is a social conservative but I do believe he will do his best to return law and order to this great country of ours.Imalso believe he will do his best to give our military what they need and deserve and will get this country back to work,among other things:thumbsup:
Trump has no problem with gay people or same-sex marriage and the Republican party will will soon follow in his footsteps. It’s only a matter of time since most young Republicans support same-sex marriage:
Young people continue to be the strongest proponents of same-sex marriage. And as public support for same-sex marriage continues to grow, the gap between young and old is nowhere more striking than within the Republican coalition.
Today, 61% of Republicans and Republican leaners under 30 favor same-sex marriage while just 35% oppose it.
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage/
 
It is possible the Democrats will win this year.

As I said previously, it all depends on if the voters are happy with how the country is going and if they can trust Trump. If the voters think we are on the right track, then the Democrats will win. If the voters don’t and can live with Trump in the White House, then the Republicans will win.

Currently the voters DON’T think we are on the right track right now (even though they think Obama is a nice guy.) The voters also don’t like Hillary. And they don’t like Trump.

I think the campaigns boil down to two arguments:

Trump needs to convince the voters two things:
  1. He can be trusted with the office
  2. Hillary can’t
Hillary needs to convince the voters that:
  1. She can be trusted with the office
  2. Trump can’t
This will be an unusual campaign, especially since a bunch of people on both sides don’t trust their candidate.

I expect it to be a VERY negative campaign from both sides.
I think in a lot of respects what it’s going to boil down to even more so is turnout and whether the people Trump alienated during the primaries get out and vote and then have their votes counted against him.

If Hillary holds VA, and Kaine could be a plus in doing that… and if she holds places with a large number of Latinos… FL, NV, CO… then even if Trump wins OH and PA, he would still in addition need to also flip all of these… IA, NH and MI. WI without MI in this scenario wouldn’t be enough. And then he would also still need to hold NC. And even then he just wins 270 electoral votes even with MI if WI were to stay blue in a Presidential yr.

Possible? Absolutely! Anything is possible. But that’s a lot of “ifs” for Trump to hurdle over. It’s going to take nearly a perfect run for him on still an uphill climb especially if Hillary Clinton can win FL and VA I think.

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I think in a lot of respects what it’s going to boil down to even more so is turnout and whether the people Trump alienated during the primaries get out and vote and then have their votes counted against him.

If Hillary holds VA, and Kaine could be a plus in doing that… and if she holds places with a large number of Latinos… FL, NV, CO… then even if Trump wins OH and PA, he would still in addition need to also flip all of these… IA, NH and MI. WI without MI in this scenario wouldn’t be enough. And then he would also still need to hold NC. And even then he just wins 270 electoral votes even with MI if WI were to stay blue in a Presidential yr.

Possible? Absolutely! Anything is possible. But that’s a lot of “ifs” for Trump to hurdle over. It’s going to take nearly a perfect run for him on still an uphill climb especially if Hillary Clinton can win FL and VA I think.

270towin.com/maps/njJOD
It won’t be easy for Trump. But then again, it wouldn’t have been easy for any Republican. We will know more after Labor Day.
 
Protecting the gay community from assults doesn’t necessarily mean an endorsement of the lifestyle.However,I don’t really believevTrump is a social conservative but I do believe he will do his best to return law and order to this great country of ours.Imalso believe he will do his best to give our military what they need and deserve and will get this country back to work,among other things:thumbsup:
Woah wait a minute. This great country? Trump doesn’t think that. Or he wouldn’t be wearing his cap.

He also doesn’t seem to know the crime rate has been in decline overall. He has blinders on it seems and can only see the past 6 wks.

And give our military what they need and deserve? By cutting support for our NATO allies which opens the door to Putin?

Just a bit of a preview of some of what America might hear this wk I’m guessing.
 
Woah wait a minute. This great country? Trump doesn’t think that. Or he wouldn’t be wearing his cap.

He also doesn’t seem to know the crime rate has been in decline overall. He has blinders on it seems and can only see the past 6 wks.

And give our military what they need and deserve? By cutting support for our NATO allies which opens the door to Putin?

Just a bit of a preview of some of what America might hear this wk I’m guessing.
Blah blah blah talking points all.You might want to talk to Obama re Putin,more of the same with Hillary. Sigh…"…
 
I agree after Labor Day and see how the debates go as well.
I seriously doubt this particular election will be won or lost in the debates. Debating is considered an elite activity among most undecided voters this year. They would rather see actions rather than fancy talking. At least that is the impression I get from talking with a lot of them and reading polls.
 
I think this is good news. The DNC should have been totally neutral between Bernie and Hillary.
If they really wanted to be neutral they would have gotten rid of super delegates. However, they didn’t and won’t. Bernie never had a chance and there is no indication that anyone else who isn’t part of the ‘main stream’ of the party is likely to any time soon.
 
It won’t be easy for Trump. But then again, it wouldn’t have been easy for any Republican. We will know more after Labor Day.
We may not know much until after the actual election. This may be a lot like the Brexit vote where the polls were wrong. A lot of people will not admit they support Trump or Brexit to pollsters when the pundits all seem to back the status quo. It is hard to measure how angry some people are or what they are willing to do to show that anger. Will more people vote to protest Donald Trump or the more establishment Hillary Clinton?
 
I think this is good news. The DNC should have been totally neutral between Bernie and Hillary.
For what it is worth. I have always liked Donna Brazile and I think she will try to be fair given the rules the Democratic Party has (which is not fair to those who are not part of the ‘in group.’)
 
If they really wanted to be neutral they would have gotten rid of super delegates. However, they didn’t and won’t. Bernie never had a chance and there is no indication that anyone else who isn’t part of the ‘main stream’ of the party is likely to any time soon.
Even without the super delegates, Clinton would still have won since she won more bound delegates in the state primaries and caucuses. Bernie never did that well with minorities.
 
Even without the super delegates, Clinton would still have won since she won more bound delegates in the state primaries and caucuses. Bernie never did that well with minorities.
Maybe, maybe not. Sanders was hobbled from day 1 because of the super delegates. In fact, to prevent candidates like Sanders from getting a foothold, is the main reason for super delegates in the first place. Again, if the party really wanted to have a fair and democratic primary, they would not have super delegates.
 
Even without the super delegates, Clinton would still have won since she won more bound delegates in the state primaries and caucuses. Bernie never did that well with minorities.
We’ll never know-she had the super delegates and the full power of the DNC behind her. One wonders the Democrat electorate tolerates this-or perhaps they really don’t trust themselves to make the decisoin
 
We’ll never know-she had the super delegates and the full power of the DNC behind her. One wonders the Democrat electorate tolerates this-or perhaps they really don’t trust themselves to make the decisoin
Many Republicans probably wish they had superdelegates, too. I they had, they might not have gotten a candidate like Trump.
 
He is against gay marriage. He said so himself.
Elton John and his longtime boyfriend, David Furnish, entered a civil partnership on Dec. 21, 2005, in England under a law the country had just enacted granting recognition to same-sex couples. The congratulations poured in as the two men appeared at a joyous ceremony at Windsor Guildhall, amid a crush of paparazzi. Donald J. Trump, who had known the couple for years, took to his blog to express his excitement.
“I know both of them, and they get along wonderfully. It’s a marriage that’s going to work,” Mr. Trump wrote, adding: “I’m very happy for them. If two people dig each other, they dig each other.”
Mr. Trump is now the leading candidate for president in the Republican primary, which has traditionally been dominated by hopefuls eager to show how deeply conservative they are on social issues like gay rights and marriage.
But Mr. Trump is far more accepting of sexual minorities than his party’s leaders have been. On Thursday, he startled some Republicans by saying on NBC’s “Today” show that he opposed a recently passed North Carolina law that prohibits people from using public bathrooms that do not correspond to the gender they were born with, striking down a Charlotte ordinance.
Transgender people should “use the bathroom they feel is appropriate,” Mr. Trump said, putting him at odds with a majority of Republicans in North Carolina.
nytimes.com/2016/04/23/us/politics/donald-trump-gay-rights.html?_r=0

I don’t think Mr. Trump has a problem with LGBT people or with gay marriage.
 
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