Democratic Party Convention General Thread

[gracepoole]

I saw that, too; but I don’t know what it means. Are they having a roll call vote?

I honestly don’t know. This is the only source I’ve seen running this story.

 

[meltzerboy]

I think what Bernie Sanders has to try to do tonight is convince his supporters that Donald Trump is a worse threat to America at home and abroad than Hillary Clinton. They will want specifics, not generalities.

 

[gracepoole]

I think what Bernie Sanders has to try to do tonight is convince his supporters that Donald Trump is a worse threat to America at home and abroad than Hillary Clinton. They will want specifics, not generalities.

That shouldn’t be hard – at least not given the audience.

 

[meltzerboy]

That shouldn’t be hard – at least not given the audience.

Seemingly so, but he has already made a strong case against Hillary Clinton. Somehow he has to backtrack on that.

 

[Dwyer]

All the Networks, including MSNBC and CNN, cut the President of AFL-CIO Richard Trumka’s speech.

That demonstrates none of the Cable Networks care about Labor in the United States.

The Hillary–Bernie Feud is much more important to talk about.

 

[Good_Tidings]

I honestly don’t know. This is the only source I’ve seen running this story.

From what I can glean, Bernie supporters want a roll call vote so they can support him out loud. In 2008 Hillary asked for a unanimous voice vote to nominate Obama. I don’t think anyone thinks that the method will change the outcome.

 

[Padres1969]

I think what Bernie Sanders has to try to do tonight is convince his supporters that Donald Trump is a worse threat to America at home and abroad than Hillary Clinton. They will want specifics, not generalities.

Given Trump shares almost no political positions with Sanders other than being a party outsider that shouldn’t be too hard. Trump and his VP are a direct threat to the far left progressive agenda on almost every topic (save those we have no idea of Trump’s actual political position or which he’s hazy on). For all her issues, Hillary at least shares a fair number of Sanders values, and as a result of Sander’s campaign in large, the Democratic platform has never been more progressive. Meanwhile the Republican platform is about an non-Sanders as you can get.

It really shouldn’t take any convincing at all for his groupies to see that Trump is this much bigger threat. But some Sanders groupies, and they are groupies in many cases, don’t seem to be swayed much by logic.

 

[Good_Tidings]

All the Networks, including MSNBC and CNN, cut the Richard Trumka, President of AFL-CIO Richard Trumka’s speech.

That demonstrates none of the Cable Networks care about Labor in the United States.

The Hillary–Bernie Feud is much more important to talk about.

No kidding. It’s best to watch on C-span.

 

[meltzerboy]

All the Networks, including MSNBC and CNN, cut the Richard Trumka, President of AFL-CIO Richard Trumka’s speech.

That demonstrates none of the Cable Networks care about Labor in the United States.

That may have been an interesting speech to hear. But Trumka is not a political star like Elizabeth Warren, Michelle Obama, and Bernie Sanders, and the networks like stars.

 

[Good_Tidings]

Given Trump shares almost no political positions with Sanders other than being a party outsider that shouldn’t be too hard. Trump and his VP are a direct threat to the far left progressive agenda on almost every topic (save those we have no idea of Trump’s actual political position or which he’s hazy on). For all her issues, Hillary at least shares a fair number of Sanders values, and as a result of Sander’s campaign in large, the Democratic platform has never been more progressive. Meanwhile the Republican platform is about an non-Sanders as you can get.

It really shouldn’t take any convincing at all for his groupies to see that Trump is this much bigger threat. But some Sanders groupies, and they are groupies in many cases, don’t seem to be swayed much by logic.

I was reading a very liberal site and many Bernie supporters were apologizing for the shenanigans at the DNC. They say that some of these people are the green party who found common ground with Bernie. They are on the left of Bernie. ( no kidding) They now feel they have a voice; and they do.

 

[Ridgerunner]

The old “Trump is an outsider” mantra is pretty laughable. No one stands for the status quo of benefiting big businesses quite like him.

There is no particularly good reason to believe this. After all, he’s the one who sued Deutchebank when it tried to take all his assets during the recession, and won. He might have no love for Big Wall Street at all, and certainly he isn’t beholding to them.

 

[Ridgerunner]

. For all her issues, Hillary at least shares a fair number of Sanders values, and as a result of Sander’s campaign in large, the Democratic platform has never been more progressive. Meanwhile the Republican platform is about an non-Sanders as you can get.

It really shouldn’t take any convincing at all for his groupies to see that Trump is this much bigger threat. But some Sanders groupies, and they are groupies in many cases, don’t seem to be swayed much by logic.

Hillary Clinton shares support for abortion on demand with Sanders, and that’s about it.

 

[Cider]

That shouldn’t be hard – at least not given the audience.

I don’t think Bernie supporters protesting outside are going to be convinced.

 

[Good_Tidings]

I don’t think Bernie supporters protesting outside are going to be convinced.

You may be right. It’s the liberal version of the Tea Party without the Koch money.

 

[meltzerboy]

I don’t think Bernie supporters protesting outside are going to be convinced.

C’est parce que ceux-ci ont l’esprit de contradiction!

 

[Cider]

C’est parce que ceux-ci ont l’esprit de contradiction!

LOL, well I’m just saying. At some point the election will happen those protesters will decide, vote, don’t vote and for who. I don’t think those protesting are just going to do what Bernie says. With phones and apps you can still watch or hear the convention while protesting.

 

[meltzerboy]

LOL, well I’m just saying.

I got tired of English, but I’m back on track now.

For non-French speakers: “It’s because these (supporters) have rebellious minds, spirits!”

 

[Cider]

I got tired of English, but I’m back on track now.

For non-French speakers: “It’s because these (supporters) have rebellious minds, spirits!”

I have just enough French that I could figure out what you meant. I’m not fluent though.

 

[Saints_Alive]

I’m listening to the convention on the radio and judging by the music going on right now it would not surprise me if Lady Gaga made an appearance LOL

Sheesh

 

[meltzerboy]

LOL, well I’m just saying. At some point the election will happen those protesters will decide, vote, don’t vote and for who. I don’t think those protesting are just going to do what Bernie says. With phones and apps you can still watch or hear the convention while protesting.

Bernie promised them a political revolution, which, they know Hillary will never provide. Many of the protesters are young, idealistic, and foolish. They’ll learn eventually.