Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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Irrespective on how one feels about Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, his speech last night was really good. He came across as charming and witty. That’s one of his strengths. He’s a good public speaker.

He seems to have aged more so than I would have expected, though. I hope he is in good health.
 
gracepoole said:
People whose marriages survive infidelities should disappear?
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People who ridicule, demean and defame women who attempt to tell the truth about such infidelities should disappear. Both Bill and Hillary are guilty of that.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I watched it. Is that really the worst you can find? His thought process was still excellent. A little stuttering does not mean anything, as long as there is still a brilliant mind behind it.
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I think people have different opinions on what constitutes brilliant. For a politician, actual achievement is probably a much more accurate gauge than how he brilliantly strings his words together and how he brilliantly stutters.
 
DeniseNY said:
Well at least if she wins (shudders), they can bring back any of the remaining stuff they took from the WH the last time around.😉
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Saw a pretty funny meme:

Hillary will have to sit at the desk that Monica sat under.
 
gracepoole said:
People whose marriages survive infidelities should disappear?
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From the public eye as elected years, yes I’d say so.

We have enough good candidates who didn’t have affairs in the White House.

Again, this is somewhat moot, given Bill isn’t running. But I think trotting him out at conventions is a bit like trotting Nixon or Andrew Johnson out at conventions.

But I get why they do it - Democrats generally like Bill Clinton, despite the fact he cheated on his wife. I would hope for consistency’s sake they are as accepting and “shrug it off” as easily if their own husband had an affair in their house with a 22 year old. I suspect their hypocrisy would show itself and they would not be.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
They are not judged on that alone. In addition to prepared speeches (which they do inform, even if a speechwriter does write the final words) they also have to respond in press conferences and interviews. In these you can see how the person handles issues in real time without any outside help. Obama in particular has always exhibited a brilliant and thoughtful mind in interviews, so you know he is not just some actor reading from a script in his speeches.
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I’m sorry, I couldn’t let this one pass. He does seem to read from scripts as evidenced by his stuttering when his teleprompter fails.

I do agree he has and extremely intelligent mind.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
I watched it. Is that really the worst you can find? His thought process was still excellent. A little stuttering does not mean anything, as long as there is still a brilliant mind behind it.
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A brilliant mind is no indicative of a person’s character. I can think of some brilliant minds that aren’t worthy of that praise.
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
From the public eye as elected years, yes I’d say so.

We have enough good candidates who didn’t have affairs in the White House.

Again, this is somewhat moot, given Bill isn’t running. But I think trotting him out at conventions is a bit like trotting Nixon or Andrew Johnson out at conventions.

But I get why they do it - Democrats generally like Bill Clinton, despite the fact he cheated on his wife. I would hope for consistency’s sake they are as accepting and “shrug it off” as easily if their own husband had an affair in their house with a 22 year old. I suspect their hypocrisy would show itself and they would not be.
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I don’t think that would be hypocrisy. One’s spouse cheating is light years away from the president cheating in terms of emotional impact.

And it seems the majority of Americans (not just Democrats) like Bill Clinton and think the Starr investigation was a travesty.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
The title of the article does the cherry picking for you. And **most people **only read the title and do not follow the link and read the entire article. Mission accomplished.
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Are you sure about that? Or are you talking about yourself?
 
The Clintons are the most corrupt political couple we have ever had in this nation. It has been scandal after scandal for 30 years now and they are so powerful they never get indicted. Remember when they had all those FBI records? Well they still have the information and have used it to protect themselves.
 
gracepoole said:
Would you have the same reaction to a Catholic couple who stayed together after numerous infidelities? Shouldn’t we be supportive of a marriage that survived unfaithfulness?
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Yes-but should we have respect for a women who participated in trying to destroy the women her husband sexually harassed and allegedly raped?
 
Julian Assange: “Any DNC staffer could be the leaker… Like the one killed last week (7/11/2016)”
“There had been a struggle. His hands were bruised, his knees are bruised, his face is bruised, and yet he had two shots to his back, and yet they never took anything,”
It’s dangerous to work against HRC!
 
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