Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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meltzerboy said:
I think the most important group for Donald Trump to secure is blue-collar workers. Hillary’s stand on energy and coal, in particular, as well as her trade policy, makes her vulnerable in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Florida is not a sure bet either since the Latino population is largely Cuban and more conservative. Even South Florida, with a heavy Jewish population, will likely split their vote between Clinton and Trump.
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I agree. I do think OH, PA are in play for Trump. I would say between the two, Hillary might actually have a better chance in PA depending on the turnout in Philly and eastern PA. And in OH it’s hard to say if there will be a Kasich factor with him not yet endorsing or being enthusiastic for Trump. The Trump camp chose to diss Kasich, even though the active support of Kasich Republicans it would seem to me might be helpful there. I know 270towin.com hasn’t had MI as a tossup and RCP has shown MI for Hillary but I would have some concern about MI if I were the Clinton camp. Remember Bernie beat her there when polls suggested otherwise. And Trump won MI in his primary.

I’m not sure in Presidential yrs though if the FL Latino vote isn’t changing. Many younger Cubans don’t necessarily vote the Republican line as their parents and grandparents have in the past. And I found this interesting breakdown of the diversity in the Latino population in a number of FL counties and it was from 3 yrs ago.

Mexicans and Puerto Ricans in several counties outnumber Cubans. There now are only a few counties where Cubans remain the largest group. And in Broward, Cubans just barely are now, and in Palm Beach County, Mexicans are the larger group. And in the I-4 corridor between Orlando and Tampa, the Latino population is mostly Mexican and Puerto Rican.

floridatrend.com/article/15517/hispanic-diversity-in-florida-map

Funny you should mention S FL’s Jewish population. My sister works at a primarily Jewish country club and she has said there have been a couple of occasions where members have nearly come to blows over these 2 candidates. 😃

One thing for certain though, it will be interesting. So much depends on turn out I think in FL and of course if votes are counted. 🙂
 
stevegravy said:
Thanks for the TV guide I think the cooking shows on Create TV will be more informative.
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I actually watched Chopped Jr on the Food Channel last night. I didn’t watch Bill Clinton’s speech. But I liked seeing the unity that came about the 1st and 2nd nights after a media driven first afternoon, and I am very much looking forward to these next 2 nights.
 
gilliam said:
Why should this be even a controversy? A major political party in the US should have American flags all over the place.
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:rolleyes: to your “all over place”. It’s not a counting contest. There are so many more important issues than who wins a flag count. But I agree it shouldn’t be a controversy because both conventions had and have US flags and did from day 1. The controversy is a false one created by some conservatives. Yet the last I checked the words “thou shalt not give false witness” were in the same commandments as “thou shalt murder”.
 
Sy_Noe said:
:rolleyes: to your “all over place”. It’s not a counting contest. But I agree it shouldn’t be a controversy because both conventions had and have flags and have from day 1. The controversy is a false one created by some conservatives. Yet the last I checked the words “thou shalt not give false witness” were in the same commandments as “thou shalt murder”.
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All over the place, is exactly what I said. All over the place. There should not be any question about patriotism. Why hide a flag in a corner at a US political rally? It should be front and center. People should be waving them.

The Democratic Party I grew up with was that way. It is only recently that it is better to wave some other country’s flag at a Democratic Party event. One would think they are not proud to be Americans. And they are the party with a Democratic president in office. :confused:
 
gilliam said:
All over the place, is exactly what I said. All over the place. There should not be any question about patriotism. Why hide a flag in a corner at a US political rally? It should be front and center. People should be waving them.

The Democratic Party I grew up with was that way. It is only recently that it is better to wave some other country’s flag at a Democratic Party event. One would think they are not proud to be Americans. And they are the party with a Democratic president in office. :confused:
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There have been strange stories (not in relation to the convention, but in general) where people/entities have been concerned that the American flag might be found “offensive” by some. I don’t know if that’s what’s in play here, but it’s a possibility.
 
gilliam said:
All over the place, is exactly what I said. All over the place. There should not be any question about patriotism. Why hide a flag in a corner at a US political rally? It should be front and center. People should be waving them.

The Democratic Party I grew up with was that way. It is only recently that it is better to wave some other country’s flag at a Democratic Party event. One would think they are not proud to be Americans. And they are the party with a Democratic president in office. :confused:
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Why are flags the standard by which we judge someone’s patriotism?
 
TMC said:
Well, his call for Russia to continue hacking US politicians was certainly historical.
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It’s tongue-in-cheek. The media insists Russia did tthe hacking of DNC emails but earlier they insisted no one ever did hack into hillarys emails on illegal home server. See the contradiction? Trump is oniy saying out loud what people say in their own homes. If Russia hacked DNC, they probably have got Hilary’s emails, which are probably just as juicy.
 
gracepoole said:
Why are flags the standard by which we judge someone’s patriotism?
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It is an outward sign. Like a crucifix is for a Christian. Men and women have died defending the flag against people who would kill you and I. There is no stronger outward sign in the USA. Flags are often called standards for a reason. There is also a reason it is flown proudly on federal buildings and installations.
 
queenofheartscv said:
It’s tongue-in-cheek. The media insists Russia did tthe hacking of DNC emails but earlier they insisted no one ever did hack into hillarys emails on illegal home server. See the contradiction? Trump is oniy saying out loud what people say in their own homes. If Russia hacked DNC, they probably have got Hilary’s emails, which are probably just as juicy.
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More then juicy, the secrete 30,000 she wiped from the server. Putin might be able to do what the State Department won’t do. Now that is fun. 👍
 
queenofheartscv said:
It’s tongue-in-cheek. The media insists Russia did tthe hacking of DNC emails but earlier they insisted no one ever did hack into hillarys emails on illegal home server. See the contradiction? Trump is oniy saying out loud what people say in their own homes. If Russia hacked DNC, they probably have got Hilary’s emails, which are probably just as juicy.
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I am appalled at the Hillary email scandal but do not forget that Trump himself is under investigation for fraud in relation to his Trump University. True, this is not as big a deal as the Hillary affair except for those students who paid financially for nothing in return. Still, it does say something about the business ethics of both candidates.
 
gilliam said:
It is an outward sign. Like a crucifix is for a Christian. Men and women have died defending the flag against people who would kill you and I. There is no stronger outward sign in the USA. Flags are often called standards for a reason. There is also a reason it is flown proudly on federal buildings and installations.
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Is wearing a crucifix the standard by which we judge someone’s Christianity? I certainly hope not…
 
gracepoole said:
Is wearing a crucifix the standard by which we judge someone’s Christianity? I certainly hope not…
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If the pope called a Bishops conference and there is no crucifix to be seen, that’d be a story.
 
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