Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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Thorolfr said:
On a different note, I read that Bill O’Reilly was commenting on the line in Michelle Obama’s speech in which she mentioned that the White House was built by slaves, to which he felt compelled to say that the slaves were “well fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government.” What a ridiculous thing for O’Reilly to say.
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Why, if it’s true? How much history do you know about the building of the WH? And many more people besides slaves were involved in the building of the WH.
 
Entwhistler said:
Mr. Obama is a good speaker. He doesn’t constantly yell like Hilary does.
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I got the feeling some speakers were distracted by the noise. They can hear people around the center better than we the remote viewers can. There were some people that stopped to wait for noise to die down. President Obama seemed to pause for some cheers but otherwise kept speaking . He seemed to understand the microphones were picking him up just fine. Not everyone seemed to understand that.
 
ThinkingSapien said:
Aren’t there general rules (or customs) about not going after children of current or previous presidents?
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Only for Democrats. The point is they have asked Trump’s daughters about his attitude and relationships with women, and his daughters have no issue answering head on.

It has been said that it is verboten to ask Chelsea the same questions, and given that her father was

A) the President and prominent political figure post presidency

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B) had an affair in the White House and a long history being accused of sexual improprieties by various women

I think some wonder why it is okay to ask Trump’s children questions that it is not okay to ask Hillary’s child. Seems a bit one-sided.
 
On Fox News, Steve Doocy said within the three days of the DNC, Donald Trump has been been mentioned 332 times, and the RNC over four days mentioned Hillary Clinton 203 times.
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
Only for Democrats.
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Are you sure about that? Has the media been known to go after the younger Barbara Bush, Jenna Bush Hager, or the children of any other presidents (other than the children that have taken political office)?
 
ThinkingSapien said:
Maximilan Kolbe;14072313:
Only for Democrats. /QUOTE]

Are you sure about that? Has the media been known to go after the younger Barbara Bush, Jenna Bush Hager, or the children of any other presidents (other than the children that have taken political office)?
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Not when they were under 18, I don’t think. That makes good sense.

And don’t get hung up on that statement - it was made in reference to this election.

Folks are just asking why asking media has been told questions about her father’s treatment of women is not allowed with regards to Chelsea but not Ivanka or Tiffany.
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ThinkingSapien said:
Aren’t there general rules (or customs) about not going after children of current or previous presidents?
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I’ve been surprised that the media has not mentioned one word about Ivanka Trump’s FIL and the way he hired a prostitute to seduce his BIL, filmed the encounter, and then sent the tape to his sister, all in an effort to prevent them from testifying about him. Not really relevant to this election, but that doesn’t usually stop them from chewing over a juicy bone like this.
 
Book_Worm said:
I’ve been surprised that the media has not mentioned one word about Ivanka Trump’s FIL and the way he hired a prostitute to seduce his BIL, filmed the encounter, and then sent the tape to his sister, all in an effort to prevent them from testifying about him. Not really relevant to this election, but that doesn’t usually stop them from chewing over a juicy bone like this.
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No, it’s not really relevant. But let’s maybe drag up all the old dirt on Roger Clinton and maybe Hugh and Tony Rodham, too. Oh, and let’s not forget Ed Mezvinsky.
 
DeniseNY said:
No, it’s not really relevant. But let’s maybe drag up all the old dirt on Roger Clinton and maybe Hugh and Tony Rodham, too. Oh, and let’s not forget Ed Mezvinsky.
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I thought we can’t even talk about Bill clinton’s alleged rapes and how hillary persecuted his alleged rapists.
 
queenofheartscv said:
I thought we can’t even talk about Bill clinton’s alleged rapes and how hillary persecuted his alleged rapists.
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Different rules!

And the women who have accused him have been dragged through the mud. Sounds like a #waronwomen.
 
DeniseNY said:
No, it’s not really relevant. But let’s maybe drag up all the old dirt on Roger Clinton and maybe Hugh and Tony Rodham, too. Oh, and let’s not forget Ed Mezvinsky.
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I suspect most people consider the husband and wife team to be fair game in how they live their lives.

Family members beyond that don’t seem to matter to folks, unless there is a clear pattern of corruption or immorality in the family (though if it didn’t hurt the Kennedys, it likely won’t hurt the Trumps or Clintons 50 years later). That’s why I never understood mentioning Cruz’s father, regardless of the story. With such serious issues going on, who cares?

I dislike Bill Clinton, but that has nothing to do with my vote. My concern with Hillary rests in her policies and character, as she is running. Same goes for Trump - I couldn’t care less about his wife, frankly.

But if you are going to ask Ivanka about Trump’s treatment of women, we should not be told Chelsea is off limits for similar questions. If Chelsea said “my father isn’t running” or some such statement, it would be a dodge to be sure, but at least a fair question and response. But even asking the question is “off limits.”
 
His speech will be the greatest speech ever only until Hillary gives hers tonight. The truth is Obamas could’ve gotten on the podium last night , belched and farted, walked off and we would have people swooning today aboutv how brilliant his speech was. And brace yourself, we’re going to be hearing the same thing tomorrow about Hillary .
 
7_Sorrows said:
the whole evening was like a Hollywood production of how wonderful we all are and patting each other on the back. packed full of emotion.
everything sounded good, but was just a load of horse apples if you know what I mean. I was not impressed with Tim Kaine at all. Too bad he hooked up with Hillary. he looks like a good fall guy.
anyhow, these people are a joke.
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I didn’t watch but I can only imagine the production as I have seen it before.The Dems as you said are all about appearance.They put on a good show ,beyond that they rarely follow through on their lofty promises.Somehow their base never seems to notice.Gotts wonder why that is.:cool:
 
estesbob said:
His speech will be the greatest speech ever only until Hillary gives hers tonight. The truth is Obamas could’ve gotten on the podium last night , belched and farted, walked off and we would have people swooning today aboutv how brilliant his speech was. And brace yourself, we’re going to be hearing the same thing tomorrow about Hillary .
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:rotfl:👍
 
estesbob said:
His speech will be the greatest speech ever only until Hillary gives hers tonight. The truth is Obamas could’ve gotten on the podium last night , belched and farted, walked off and we would have people swooning today aboutv how brilliant his speech was. And brace yourself, we’re going to be hearing the same thing tomorrow about Hillary .
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😃

Indeed. The delirious reactions are a bit scary.
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
Not when they were under 18, I don’t think. That makes good sense.
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As far as I can see your observations don’t seem to contradict my understanding of the rule about leaving the children of presidents alone. When George W. was running his twin daughters would have been 19 years old. For his second election they would have been 23. While there were plenty of people that disagreed with his politics I don’t recall his children being the target of political questions.
 
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