Democratic Party Convention General Thread

[adowcday]

Give me a list of facts re the state of our nation as it has been under Obama’s tenure where the glowing roses image depicted by the Dems aligns with the reality all of our nation right now ? Stick g our heads in the sand ignoring the very real concerns isn’t going to make those concerns dissapear.

Since President Barack Obama first took office:

The economy has added more than 10 million jobs, and job openings are at a 15-year high.

The unemployment rate has dropped well below the historical norm, but long-term unemployment remains higher than at the start of the Great Recession.

The buying power of the average worker’s weekly paycheck is up 4.4 percent.

Corporate profits are running 152 percent higher, and stock prices have soared.

The number of immigrants caught trying to enter the U.S. illegally has dropped 53 percent.

Federal debt has more than doubled, and annual deficits, after shrinking, are again on the rise.

The home ownership rate has dropped by 4 percentage points.

The number of Americans on food stamps is up 36 percent.

Oil imports are down 53 percent, and wind and solar power have quadrupled.

The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by 15.2 million.

(See factcheck.org/2016/07/obamas-numbers-july-2016-update/ for details).

There’s a list of some of the facts, as compiled by FactCheck.org. Not all of the facts are rosy – there’s lots of room for improvement – but there’s lots for Democrats to point to as real progress since Obama took office in the midst of the Great Recession.

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

What policies did he talk about to fix our problems aside from building a wall? A lot of his solutions seemed rather vague on specifics.

The argument was it was dark and dystopian. I simply argued that most seemed to find it inspiring, if judging my critical response and poll numbers.

Anyone looking for policy specifics in a convention speech hasn’t seen many convention speeches. Go to his website for that information.

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

Trump said that he would fix America’s problems and make us strong again, but I missed the part where he said how he was going to do this. I think the closest he came was “Trust me.”

Is your argument that he was too vague, or that he was too gloomy? I am losing track.

 

[mary_bobo]

What policies did he talk about to fix our problems aside from building a wall? A lot of his solutions seemed rather vague on specifics.

I must have missed where Clinton gave us specifics other than to leave the impression that we would have Obama II.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Since President Barack Obama first took office:

The economy has added more than 10 million jobs, and job openings are at a 15-year high.

The unemployment rate has dropped well below the historical norm, but long-term unemployment remains higher than at the start of the Great Recession.

The buying power of the average worker’s weekly paycheck is up 4.4 percent.

Corporate profits are running 152 percent higher, and stock prices have soared.

The number of immigrants caught trying to enter the U.S. illegally has dropped 53 percent.

Federal debt has more than doubled, and annual deficits, after shrinking, are again on the rise.

The home ownership rate has dropped by 4 percentage points.

The number of Americans on food stamps is up 36 percent.

Oil imports are down 53 percent, and wind and solar power have quadrupled.

The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by 15.2 million.

(See factcheck.org/2016/07/obamas-numbers-july-2016-update/ for details).

There’s a list of some of the facts, as compiled by FactCheck.org. Not all of the facts are rosy – there’s lots of room for improvement – but there’s lots for Democrats to point to as real progress since Obama took office in the midst of the Great Recession.

Most jobs created are partime and or gov’t jobs which add nothing to the revenue

 

[meltzerboy]

the democrats are playing the Americans like a violin.

we should all feel insulted.

If the violin is a Stradivarius and the violinist is a Heifetz, I’m not offended.

 

[meltzerboy]

Do you think primary votes for Hillary are any less representative of the people who cast them than primary votes for Trump?

I think the point is the Democrats didn’t have as much of a choice with only, I believe, four candidates at the start and soon enough, only two from which to decide. Still, the majority chose Clinton over Sanders.

 

[Sy_Noe]

IMO it was extremely telling Democrats chose to showcase illegal aliens and the mothers of would-be cop killers.

It’s clear their priorities are not with the law abiding American populace, which is not shocking given the Democrat party is an organized crime ring masquerading as a political party (if their relationship with Planned Parenthood isn’t textbook racketeering I don’t know what is).

You do realize the convention isn’t over, right? Tonight on the final night they choose as you put it, “to showcase”, family members of fallen law enforcement officers.

fox8.com/2016/07/28/schedule-of-speakers-for-final-night-of-democratic-national-convention-released/

 

[Sy_Noe]

I must have missed where Clinton gave us specifics other than to leave the impression that we would have Obama II.

Clinton hasn’t given her convention speech yet which may be why you missed it. It’s tonight.

 

[YADA]

There is unity in the Democratic party…at least among the high profile Catholics - they have all abandoned any efforts to defend the unborn, they support Planned Parenthood and NARAL 100% and deny many other tenets of their Catholic faith for the sake of the Party politics …Kaine, Biden, Pelosi et Al …they are 100% aligned - unified

They won’t lift one braincell to even contemplate the humanity of the unborn nor the inhumanity that doesn’t recognize the horror of a child being ripped apart or poisoned in the one place they should be protected - their mothers womb.

It’s unity but at great cost …to them for the harm this does to their immortal souls but also to our society and our Church for the bad example and scandal.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Since President Barack Obama first took office:

The economy has added more than 10 million jobs, and job openings are at a 15-year high.

The buying power of the average worker’s weekly paycheck is up 4.4 percent.

Corporate profits are running 152 percent higher, and stock prices have soared.

The number of immigrants caught trying to enter the U.S. illegally has dropped 53 percent.

The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by 15.2 million.

(See factcheck.org/2016/07/obamas-numbers-july-2016-update/ for details).

There’s a list of some of the facts, as compiled by FactCheck.org. Not all of the facts are rosy – there’s lots of room for improvement – but there’s lots for Democrats to point to as real progress since Obama took office in the midst of the Great Recession.

I’m sure there is plenty to say about a number of them, but:

-Border interceptions getting lower is not hard to achieve when you tell the Border Patrol not to intercept the intermittent floods of people.

-If buying power is still lower than in the 1970s, spreading 4.4 percent over eight years is not impressive, if it’s even true. And if, as we’re assured constantly, all increases have been in the top 10% or so, it’s worse than unimpressive.

-If, as the CBO says, 17 million people were shoved onto Medicaid and 30 million remain uninsured from some number nobody really knew when Obamacare was passed, there isn’t much to crow about in a 15 million “reduction-on-paper” in uninsured. The Medicaid additions alone are more than that.

-Corporate profit increases s can be due to cost reductions through labor force reduction and moving facilities overseas. Unless one breaks down the sources of profit increases, this number means nothing.

-And the stock market is buoyed by effectively zero interest rates and is a “trader’s market” in a fairly narrow range. Retail (ordinary people) market trade is virtually dead. And while the market is near an all time high right now, it has been below the 2008 level at times in the last eight years, including in 2016. That fact alone should give one pause because the market was at nosebleed high levels right before the recession hit. Actual trading volume is much lower than in 2008.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Clinton hasn’t given her convention speech yet which may be why you missed it. It’s tonight.

They’ll want a full house for that, of course. Looks like they hired some replacements for the Sanders walkouts so it would be full and create the impression that the Sanders people were reconciled to the Clinton candidacy. Maybe we’ll find out sometime how many Sanders supporters really bolted the convention and won’t vote Clinton in November.

infowars.com/bernie-delegate-dnc-is-replacing-sanders-supporters-with-paid-seat-fillers-to-create-fake-unity/

 

[Geist]

You do realize the convention isn’t over, right? Tonight on the final night they choose as you put it, “to showcase”, family members of fallen law enforcement officers.

fox8.com/2016/07/28/schedule-of-speakers-for-final-night-of-democratic-national-convention-released/

So they stuck them back of the bus.

 

[Geist]

They’ll want a full house for that, of course. Looks like they hired some replacements for the Sanders walkouts so it would be full and create the impression that the Sanders people were reconciled to the Clinton candidacy. Maybe we’ll find out sometime how many Sanders supporters really bolted the convention and won’t vote Clinton in November.

infowars.com/bernie-delegate-dnc-is-replacing-sanders-supporters-with-paid-seat-fillers-to-create-fake-unity/

A PAC affiliated with the Clinton campaign also pays people to say nice things about Hillary online.

dailykos.com/story/2016/4/21/1518537/-Clinton-SuperPac-Admits-to-Paying-Internet-Trolls

The Daily Beast reports that Clinton SuperPac “Correct the Record” is openly admitting to spending $1 million to hire fake online Hillary supporters to swarm social media sites like Reddit and counteract Sanders’ [actually existent unpaid] enthusiastic supporters’ points about Hillary in the interest of “unity”.

Hillarys grassroots support is about as genuine as astroturf. Her rallies are poorly attended too. All she has is Goldman Sachs cash. I really hope it’s not enough.

Where I live a Trump rally was announced on Saturday the 23rd to be held on Monday the 25th; with such short notice he still had hundreds who couldn’t get in and waited in 100 degree weather for it.

Trumps support is authentic at least.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Tonight’s schedule:

6:00 - 10:00 PM (EDT)

Musical Performance: Carole King

U.S. Representative James Clyburn (South Carolina)

Hillary for America Director of States and Political Engagement Marlon Marshall

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi

U.S. Senator Barbara Mikulski and the Democratic Women of the Senate

Hillary for America Latino Vote Director Lorella Praeli

U.S. Representative Joaquin Castro (Texas)

Musical Performance: Sheila E + Family

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo

Stronger Together: An Economy That Works For All

U.S. Representative Tim Ryan (Ohio)

Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper

Introduction of Speakers: Ted Danson & Mary Steenburgen

Henrietta Ivey

Dave Wills

Beth Mathias

Jensen Walcott & Jake Reed

Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf

Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm

Stronger Together: Americans for Hillary

Doug Elmets
Former Reagan Administration official

Jennifer Pierotti Lim
Director of Health Policy, U.S. Chamber of Commerce & Co-Founder of Republican Women for Hillary

Stronger Together: Tribute to Fallen Law Enforcement Officers

Dallas Sheriff Lupe Valdez

Jennifer Loudon, Wayne Walker, Wayne Owens, Barbara Owens
Family members of fallen law enforcement officers

Stronger Together: An Inclusive America

Reverend William Barber

Introduction of Film: Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Khizr Khan
Khizr Khan’s son, Humayun S. M. Khan was a University of Virginia graduate and enlisted in the U.S. Army. Khan was one of 14 American Muslims who died serving the United States in the ten years after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Stronger Together: Supporting Our Military

U.S. Representative Ted Lieu (California)

General John Allen (ret. USMC), former Commander, International Security Assistance Forces, and Commander, United States Forces - Afghanistan

Florent Groberg
Retired U.S. Army Captain Florent “Flo” Groberg was awarded the Medal of Honor, the nation’s top award for valor in combat, by President Obama after serving in Afghanistan.

Chloe Grace Moretz, actress

U.S. Representative Xavier Becerra (California)

U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown (Ohio)

Musical Performance: Katy Perry

10:00 - 11:00 PM (EDT)

Introduction of Hillary Clinton
Chelsea Clinton

Remarks
Hillary Clinton*

Benediction
Reverend Bill Shillady

where is George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar?

 

[meltzerboy]

A PAC affiliated with the Clinton campaign also pays people to say nice things about Hillary online.

dailykos.com/story/2016/4/21/1518537/-Clinton-SuperPac-Admits-to-Paying-Internet-Trolls

Hillarys grassroots support is about as genuine as astroturf. Her rallies are poorly attended too. All she has is Goldman Sachs cash. I really hope it’s not enough.

Where I live a Trump rally was announced on Saturday the 23rd to be held on Monday the 25th; with such short notice he still had hundreds who couldn’t get in and waited in 100 degree weather for it.

Trumps support is authentic at least.

Attending a rally, even in the heat, does not necessarily mean one supports the candidate. I would like to attend a Trump rally because he is a charismatic speaker, although I have no intention of voting for him. (I once attended a Billy Graham rally for the same reason.) Others may attend because they are undecided. Still others may just be going along with a friend or family member for a day out. Or just for comic relief. We cannot assume large audiences mean everyone is a supporter.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Actually, they did speak about how great America is and did so repeatedly. Maybe you weren’t following their speeches because their message didn’t line up with what you are hearing from Fox News or the right wing talking heads?

Here’s a link to a speech he gave on patriotism in 2008:

voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/06/obamas-patriotism-speech.html

Here’s a link to his speech at the 2016 DNC:

latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-obama-2016-convention-speech-transcript-20160727-snap-story.html

Here’s a sample from his speech last night at the DNC:

America is already great. America is already strong. And I promise you, our strength, our greatness, does not depend on Donald Trump. In fact, it doesn’t depend on any one person. And that, in the end, may be the biggest difference in this election – the meaning of our democracy.

Ronald Reagan called America “a shining city on a hill.” Donald Trump calls it “a divided crime scene” that only he can fix. It doesn’t matter to him that illegal immigration and the crime rate are as low as they’ve been in decades – because he’s not actually offering any real solutions to those issues. He’s just offering slogans, and he’s offering fear. He’s betting that if he scares enough people, he might score just enough votes to win this election.

And that’s another bet that Donald Trump will lose. And the reason he’ll lose it is because he’s selling the American people short. We’re not a fragile people. We’re not a frightful people. Our power doesn’t come from some self-declared savior promising that he alone can restore order as long as we do things his way. We don’t look to be ruled. Our power comes from those immortal declarations first put to paper right here in Philadelphia all those years ago: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that We the People, can form a more perfect union.

That’s who we are. That’s our birthright – the capacity to shape our own destiny. That’s what drove patriots to choose revolution over tyranny and our GIs to liberate a continent. It’s what gave women the courage to reach for the ballot, and marchers to cross a bridge in Selma, and workers to organize and fight for collective bargaining and better wages.

There are many, many other examples of his extolling the strengths and virtues of America and its people. The right wing narrative that Obama does not love and appreciate this country is a slander and a lie. The GOP has no monopoly on patriotism and love of country.

you misunderstood my post. yes I heard their speeches last night proclaiming America’s greatness, but for 8 years Obama has been apologizing for America. They waited until this week to say it, but I haven’t heard much before now.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Democrats seek paid actors on Craigslist for DNC convention. We’ll see some fake cheering tonight, provided Bernie fans have already been silenced or chased out and replaced by actors.

dcwhispers.com/sad-dnc-advertises-for-people-to-hold-signs-and-cheer-at-convention/

 

[7_Sorrows]

Clinton hasn’t given her convention speech yet which may be why you missed it. It’s tonight.

was she referring to Bill’s speech?

 

[Jeanne_S]

you misunderstood my post. yes I heard their speeches last night proclaiming America’s greatness, but for 8 years Obama has been apologizing for America. They waited until this week to say it, but I haven’t heard much before now.

Bingo! :thumbsup:No doubt after Trump’s reality check of a convention speech,the Dems reconnoitered and decided to focus on their new found love and admiration for our nation.
How timely!