Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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gracepoole said:
Perhaps you should read the article. It claims (rightly) that the GOP “blew it” by selecting Trump as its candidate, by not planning for the long haul… As the article’s title states, the DNC simply acts as a reminder of how spectacularly the GOP blew it, not how much worse its convention was.
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wouldn’t that be an opinion piece?

once the convention is over and people go back to their personal lives…
 
dmelosi said:
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Do you really and truly think that Clinton is not the most divisive candidate of all time?
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Were not the two convention themes:

GOP - Us versus them, we need to protect ourselves, build walls,and deport.

DNC - We are all in this together, we need to work together and welcome.
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Michael_Mayo said:
dmelosi;14075496:
Were not the two convention themes:

GOP - Us versus them, we need to protect ourselves, build walls,and deport.

DNC - We are all in this together, we need to work together and welcome.
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Not at all.

The unindicted leader of the party made it quite clear the we as in her and her party’s elites need to let you little people know they want you to feel better about being little people. So you can vote for them.

from Althous

The next line was also telling:

Democrats are the party of working people. But we haven’t done a good enough job showing that we get what you’re going through…

How does “we” become “you” in that sentence? I thought all were in the party. But there are the real insiders — those consolidating their own party power — who are the real “we,” and they need to show you — you, the people — that they care about you, because we need you to vote for us.

… and that we’re going to do something about it. So I want to tell you tonight how we will empower Americans to live better lives.

See? She doesn’t say she’s going to empower you to get ahead economically. The idea is “to live better lives” — which sounds like some sort of elevation of your character. You can be "better.

comments are pretty good
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Both Chelsea’s and Hillary’s speeches last night were bad even from a linguistic perspective. Most of the speeches consists of simple sentences. Did anyone else notice that? Chelsea said, “she is amazing!” Sounded like a kindergartener.
 
stevegravy said:
The next line was also telling:

Democrats are the party of working people. But we haven’t done a good enough job showing that we get what you’re going through…

How does “we” become “you” in that sentence? I thought all were in the party. But there are the real insiders — those consolidating their own party power — who are the real “we,” and they need to show you — you, the people — that they care about you, because we need you to vote for us.

… and that we’re going to do something about it. So I want to tell you tonight how we will empower Americans to live better lives.

See? She doesn’t say she’s going to empower you to get ahead economically. The idea is “to live better lives” — which sounds like some sort of elevation of your character. You can be "better.
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Of course maybe she is also addressing Independents as well as disaffected Republican. And isn’t she about empowering through raising minimum wage, equal wage for women, and more access to education and healthcare.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Both Chelsea’s and Hillary’s speeches last night were bad even from a linguistic perspective. Most of the speeches consists of simple sentences. Did anyone else notice that? Chelsea said, “she is amazing!” Sounded like a kindergartener.
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she spoke as if she were in a trance.
 
gracepoole said:
Yes. It’s an opinion piece. By a Republican.

In fact, the savviest Republican writers and strategists seem to agree that the GOP has committed suicide.
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maybe the writer was a Jeb Bush or John Kasich supporter or for Ted Cruz. Glad you are reading opinion pieces by Republican writers though.
 
7_Sorrows said:
maybe the writer was a Jeb Bush or John Kasich supporter or for Ted Cruz. Glad you are reading opinion pieces by Republican writers though.
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Of course I read pieces by Republicans. I would hope everyone reads sources from a variety of perspectives. And this is but one that says the same thing about the GOP – we could easily identify many. Are they all just supporters of other candidates who have sour grapes? :hmmm:
 
gracepoole said:
Yes. It’s an opinion piece. By a Republican.

In fact, the savviest Republican writers and strategists seem to agree that the GOP has committed suicide.
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Perhaps you don’t realize that people can check out your claims? The piece was by a libertarian, not republican as you said. And one who works for Glen Beck, totally against Trump.
 
gracepoole said:
Of course I read pieces by Republicans. I would hope everyone reads sources from a variety of perspectives. And this is but one that says the same thing about the GOP – we could easily identify many. Are they all just supporters of other candidates who have sour grapes? :hmmm:
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I started to copy links of the democrats against Clinton, but too numerous.
 
dmelosi said:
Perhaps you don’t realize that people can check out your claims? The piece was by a libertarian, not republican as you said. And one who works for Glen Beck, totally against Trump.
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Check away, please! And the larger question (which I guess remains unanswered?) is why those voting for Trump should so easily dismiss all the Republicans who claim the GOP “blew it” this election.
dmelosi said:
I started to copy links of the democrats against Clinton, but too numerous.
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If you need help, let me know. I’m extremely familiar with them.
 
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said Thursday afternoon he wanted to “hit” some of the Democratic National Convention speakers “so hard” while watching them last night, including a “little guy…so hard his head would spin.”
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“You know what I wanted to. I wanted to hit a couple of those speakers so hard,” Trump said. “I would have hit them. No, no. I was going to hit them, I was all set and then I got a call from a highly respected governor.”
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Trump didn’t immediately clarify what he meant, but he said he was made particularly upset by an unspecified person he called a “little guy.”
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“I was gonna hit one guy in particular, a very little guy,” he said. “I was gonna hit this guy so hard his head would spin and he wouldn’t know what the hell happened.”
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abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-wanted-hit-couple-dnc-speakers-hard/story?id=40974703

So since Mr. Trump says that he would like to hit some of the speakers at the Democratic convention, what would he do if he were president and a foreign leader said something that made him angry? Would he drop a bomb on them? Threatening violence against people one disagrees with does not seem like a quality I would want to see in a potential president.
 
gracepoole said:
Check away, please! And the larger question (which I guess remains unanswered?) is why those voting for Trump should so easily dismiss all the Republicans who claim the GOP “blew it” this election.

If you need help, let me know. I’m extremely familiar with them.
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I did check your claim and you did not tell the truth, misled. Perhaps not intentional, but very obvious mistruth.
 
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