Democratic Party Convention General Thread

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Good_Tidings said:
Thank you for trying to clarify this for me. Is it your contention that Mr. Trump can apply a religious test to those who are applying for citizenship?
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I wouldn’t think that a religious test for citizenship would survive a court challenge (although I’m not a lawyer so don’t actually know). But before an immigrant becomes a citizen, they might not be protected if Congress and the President decided to deport them or prevent them from entering the country because of their religion.
 
meltzerboy said:
But there is an important difference. For all her other faults, Hillary Clinton has never demeaned Muslims, has never proposed a ban on Muslim immigrants, has never spoken negatively about the religion of Islam. Donald Trump, on the other hand, has a, to put it charitably, less-than-perfect relationship with the (American) Muslim community at the moment. This is undoubtedly why the Khan family is opposed to Trump rather than Hillary. They had good words to say, however, about Ryan and other Republican leaders of Congress.
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not publicly anyway. maybe if we could see those 30, 000 emails.
 
Thorolfr said:
I wouldn’t think that a religious test for citizenship would survive a court challenge (although I’m not a lawyer so don’t actually know). But before an immigrant becomes a citizen, they might not be protected if Congress and the President decided to deport them or prevent them from entering the country because of their religion.
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Then things may be scarier than I thought.
 
7_Sorrows said:
not publicly anyway.
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I doubt that she’s done it privately, either. It doesn’t seem like something she would do. Despite all the Hillary bashing, she did a lot of things as a lawyer to help poor people, children, black people, etc. I don’t think she would be prejudiced against people because of their religion.
 
Sy_Noe said:
If you’re worried about having to rise up as a citizen, unless you have armed yourself with all the tanks and bombs and other munitions the US govt has at its disposal in the 21st century, my money would be on the govt.
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PLEASE - Learn to read … I never said I was worried … I aid the reason why we have a Constitutional - individual Right is precisely because our government is of and by the consent of the governed - which the citizens fought for - by rising up against the government - that is why it is referred to as a REVOLUTION …

you and Tom both need to read and study history … and stop reading into a post what you want to see instead of what is actually written

No one answered the question about the irony that our government spends money overseas arming citizens precisely so they can rise up and over throw their governments while doing everything they can to disarm its own citizens - in direct violation of our constitutional rights …

Let me be clear - I am not a black helicopter person … I have taken an oath to defend the Constitution …Also - I do not fear my employer - I work for the federal government [that was the last time I took the Oath - the first time was when I enlisted]. My lack of fear does not mean we should relinquish our rights.

Abortion kills thousands of innocent babies each year … disarming law abiding citizens does not change that … nor do the shear numbers of lives lost equate …

And Mr Kaine has aligned himself with those who dispose of innocent life - even at tax payer expense now … He chose death rather than life.
 
meltzerboy said:
Trump is, as ever, true to form. I suppose one could make a case that consistency is a virtue. He acts just like a spoiled child. It is amazing that a man with a character such as this is the Republican contender for POTUS. (No need to remark about Hillary’s character. But even she would not have stooped so low in this instance.) The man has, at the very least, a personality disorder: he cannot help himself.
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I agree with your assessment of Trump’s character and he should be more respectful to the parents of fallen soldiers whether he agrees with them politically or not. Yet I wouldn’t say Hilary is any better. Remember her lies about Benghazi and then calling the mother of Sean Smith a liar?
 
10gr8kids said:
I agree with your assessment of Trump’s character and he should be more respectful to the parents of fallen soldiers whether he agrees with them politically or not. Yet I wouldn’t say Hilary is any better. Remember her lies about Benghazi and then calling the mother of Sean Smith a liar?
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Did you happen to read the articles about the other mothers of Benghazi victims who did not agree with the poor mother who appeared at the RNC. They were there and did not hear what she heard. Can we all agree that these parents have had to endure the unendurable and maybe we should let them grieve any way they see fit. Some ways we will agree with and other ways not. Let’s just say a prayer of gratitude that we have been spared this anguish.
 
Songcatcher said:
I saw that earlier but I wasn’t really sure about RABA. Nate Silver has been asked about that and he rates them fairly high-said they’re new to the game but they’ve had a good record so far. They do their polling online but they use standard polling methods to weight for demographics, unlike most online polls. I guess we’ll see.

Obama is getting a big bounce, according to Gallup. His already fairly high approval rating is going up, up, up. Not at all surprised by that given his speech.
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Here is another poll from Raba research

"#NEW Virginia General Election:

Trump 46% (+4)
Clinton 42%

@RABAresearch
rabaresearch.com

FYI Obama win VA in 2012 by 4%"

twitter.com/ppollingnumbers/status/759620538113273856
 
7_Sorrows said:
many will be supporting Jill Stein. They won’t be voting for Hillary.

More people watched Donald’s speech than Hillary’s.
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I’m not voting for Trump. But I watched his speech. I missed Hillary’s speech because I was under the weather and went to bed earlier. I am planning on watching it.
 
New Bedford officials angry at Hill

"Bedford leaders are livid at Hillary Clinton’s depiction of the Whaling City as a place where handicapped children were abandoned at home because the schools lacked accommodations for youngsters with special needs.

“It’s not true,” former Mayor Jack Markey told the Herald yesterday. “I’m even a Democrat, but the truth is the truth."

bostonherald.com/news/local_politics/2016/07/new_bedford_officials_angry_at_hill
 
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