I truly am disgusted at those people who claim to be Catholic that do not stand up for their parties stance on killing those most innocent. There has not been one democrat catholic say their party is wrong and that is disturbing.
It has to do with being disturbed that people who profess to follow the faith do not condemn the party they are married that abortion is killing the most innocent. I am curious why you have not said that you disagree with your parties staunch stance on killing?
I posted several replies on guns. I cannot understand how people who claim to follow the faith completely disregard and do not respond to the killing of the most innocent. I will ask this question but would bet you will not respond directly…does your party support and promote abortion without restrictions?
Yes, you’ve made your disgust plain.
Perhaps because it sounds a lot like I’m being baited… Perhaps because the conversation wasn’t about abortion until you made it about abortion…
I cannot speak for Gracepoole, but I will anyway. Maybe because she recognizes that not all Americans (Democrats and Republicans) are Catholic. For example, in the Jewish faith, it is believed the soul enters the human body at birth, not at conception. Thus the unborn child, although human, is not considered to have full personhood until ensoulment occurs. This is a religious difference. With regard to abortion, there are other differences as well, involving the physical and mental health of the mother, severe congenital diseases, two unborn children in which one is inadvertently threatening the life of another, and so on. But I would not dream of requiring abortion in these instances, even to save the life of the mother in which it is required according to Jewish law, for non-Jewish people, including Catholics. I believe we must respect differing religious views concerning this highly personal, emotional issue, even if they don’t conform to my own.
I actually watched more of the democrat convention than the Republican. I was curious. I remembered the big convention in 2008.
For the record I always have respected your opinions and posts on here as being honest and fair according to your true beliefs. But this is a Catholic forum and Gracepoole is a Catholic and has defended her party by her silence rather than Catholic teaching on this mass killing.
Not one time have I baited. But not even 1 time have you done anything but defended your party of abortion. You have not even 1 time mentioned that you disagreed with their stance on abortion.
This is well-stated.
Are you referring here to the whole of my posts on CAF (in which case you’re very much mistaken) or in this thread?
I have already noted in this thread the issues which Americans (Republican and Democrat) list as those that they view as most important – and abortion isn’t in the top 4 for either party.
Here are reactions of conservative commentators to the Democratic convention: talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservatives-agree-dnc-was-disaster-for-gop
But you do not admit that abortion is one of the, if not the most important top priorities of your party, you keep trying to deflect on that.
Most Democrats do not vote based on abortion. I’m not attempting to deflect. I genuinely don’t understand why you think most Democrats vote on this issue.
Most democrats vote for their own self interest because they dont think that killing the most innocent is that important. Do you agree with that? If not why do you not think that.
I didn’t fall for the hype. I am reminded of the real Hillary.
Both Republicans and Democrats vote primarily on the same 4 issues and as I noted earlier, abortion isn’t one of them (they’re identified here). If Democrats “vote for their own self-interest because they don’t think that killing the most innocent is that important,” it seems Republicans also don’t prioritize the unborn no matter what they may say publicly.
You once again are trying to mislead on saying that is what the republicans prioritize. The survey is what they agree that is important.
What, to you, is the difference between “prioritize” and “what they agree is important”?
And yet (again) most Democrats don’t vote based on abortion. They vote primarily based on the same issues that Republicans vote on. So how are they voting for “their own self interest as their priority” while the majority of Republicans aren’t?
Missed it.
Hold on just a minute. Let’s look at the history. You began a series of posts having to do with guns, starting with post #1083, #1091, 1103, #1204, and #1206. In these posts you were content to focus on the issue of guns. You did not mention abortion once in all those posts. It was only starting with post #1209 that you pivoted and began insisting that we could not discuss guns unless we did so in the context of abortion. What changed?
I f this is true then why is the Democratic Party Platform even more pro-Abortion each year and this year it is the most Pro-Abortion Platform it has ever been … for something that is not that important it sure gets lots of coverage in the goals of the platform.
Abortion [Death] = Democratic Party Platform.