Democratic Party Convention General Thread

[dmelosi]

That is great that you are working so hard on behalf of the poor. However, if you work very hard to help a hundred poor people and then oppose a program that helps a few million of them, that may not be best way. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when the Christ returns he will make his own judgment on who are the goats and who are the sheep based on how they have helped the poor. The litmus test will be how they have treated strangers - BTW strangers are immigrants and refugees.

Do you consider the unborn strangers?

 

[YADA]

Do you consider the unborn strangers?

I do … and also the guy down the street …

Scriptures tell us that the borrower is the slave of the lender … I have no problem with programs that are efficient and effective at helping people -whether public or private … but I do have a problem with programs that are in-efficient and poorly run …

Sadly that is nearly every government program … even many charities spend more on fund raising then they do on the purpose to which they are dedicated … I do not donate to them … I want my hard earned dollars to go towards the purpose to which it is meant.

A government that borrows money to fund programs today is not operating in a Godly fashion. It is not using its revenues wisely. A government program that has illustrated a failure to address the underlying problem of poverty in over 50 years is a failed program that should be eliminated in favor of a totally different program … not fixed - axed

 

[openmind77]

Do you consider the unborn strangers?

It does not really matter what I consider. It is entirely up to the Christ how he makes his judgment.

You can try arguing with Him when he Returns (very soon) and tell him that it is really fetuses who are strangers and not Syrians or other refugees. I am sure he will listen to your argument and place you squarely amongst the sheep - I would prepare your argument well though because time is pretty short. And good luck to you at the judgment.

PS: Here is one more argument you use that may help - you can say that fetuses are the ‘least amongst us’ because they are small. I think that works better than ‘stranger’

 

[dmelosi]

It does not really matter what I consider. It is entirely up to the Christ how he makes his judgment.

You can try arguing with Him when he Returns (very soon) and tell him that it is really fetuses who are strangers and not Syrians or other refugees. I am sure he will listen to your argument and place you squarely amongst the sheep - I would prepare your argument well though because time is pretty short. And good luck to you at the judgment.

PS: Here is one more argument you use that may help - you can say that fetuses are the ‘least amongst us’ because they are small. I think that works better than ‘stranger’

PS: I used stranger because it seemed like a term you wanted to use and understood.

I am curious, where did I say or anyone else in this thread say that we should not help Syrians or other refugees?

For years, our family has been a part of the Belizian crippled childrens program.

Your use of the term fetus is very telling on your abortion views.

 

[openmind77]

PS: I used stranger because it seemed like a term you wanted to use and understood.

I am curious, where did I say or anyone else in this thread say that we should not help Syrians or other refugees?

For years, our family has been a part of the Belizian crippled childrens program.

Your use of the term fetus is very telling on your abortion views.

I did not say anywhere that you don’t want to help Syrians or other refugees.

I very, very glad that you want to help refugees and immigrants so much and not want to ban them from your state or country - the Christ would not be happy with such an attitude.

I would say the attitude towards strangers (immigrants/refugees whether legal or illegal) will be a litmus test that the Christ will use to separate the goats from the sheep.

Of course the other criteria mentioned in Matthew 25 35-40 are important too - your attitude to helping the hungry, your attitude towards the sick (meaning those who can not afford healthcare) and those who are in prison, will also determine who is a goat.

 

[dmelosi]

I did not say anywhere that you don’t want to help Syrians or other refugees.

I very, very glad that you want to help refugees and immigrants so much and not want to ban them from your state or country - the Christ would not be happy with such an attitude.

I would say the attitude towards strangers (immigrants/refugees whether legal or illegal) will be a litmus test that the Christ will use to separate the goats from the sheep.

Of course the other criteria mentioned in Matthew 25 35-40 are important too - your attitude to helping the hungry, your attitude towards the sick (meaning those who can not afford healthcare) and those who are in prison, will also determine who is a goat.

Why do you keep leaving out about those promoting abortion and if they will be a goat?

 

[Saints_Alive]

They just had a program on this on MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell’s show, and also how Trump is obsessed with nuclear weapons, saying if we have them, why shouldn’t we use them.
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Wow

If he said that I can’t imagine any sane person voting for him if they know he said it.

 

[openmind77]

Why do you keep leaving out about those promoting abortion and if they will be a goat?

I don’t see any mention of such a thing in Matthew 25 35-40, unless you have a different version of the Christ’s words.

When the Son of God makes an itemized list that will be used on the Day of Judgement, he is pretty clear and complete. He does not ‘forget’ important things . He already knows perfectly well what will be the issues in 2000 years and makes sure everything of importance is covered. Ordinary people like us may try to add their favorite issues to the list, but don’t count on the Christ’s support.

 

[dmelosi]

I don’t see any mention of such a thing in Matthew 25 35-40, unless you have a different version of the Christ’s words.

When the Son of God makes an itemized list that will be used on the Day of Judgement, he is pretty clear and complete. He does not ‘forget’ important things . He already knows perfectly well what will be the issues in 2000 years and makes sure everything of importance is covered. Ordinary people like us may try to add their favorite issues to the list, but don’t count on the Christ’s support.

You are saying that Matthew 25 35-40 is the complete list?

 

[dmelosi]

Wow

If he said that I can’t imagine any sane person voting for him if they know he said it.

I did a search and there was not anything that confirmed it is what he said. There is not a more liberal station than MSNBC so I suggest checking out everything you think you hear on there.

Are you not even more outraged by this?
Clinton Gets “Hero’s Welcome” at Pro-Abortion EMILY’s List Gala

Just weeks before the official launch of her 2016 campaign, Clinton headlined the 30th anniversary gala for EMILY’s List, the political action committee that backs female Democratic candidates who support abortion on demand. TIME Magazine reported that Clinton received a “hero’s welcome” at the event. At the event, EMILY’s List founder Ellen Malcolm told Clinton, “Just give the word and we’ll be right at your side.”

For a candidate to be supported by EMILY’s List, they must take a hard-line stance in opposition to any and all limitations on abortion and support full tax funding of abortion. Former Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) had been backed by EMILY’s List in her first election but after supporting a ban on partial-birth abortion, the group withdrew their support for future elections.

 

[Theo520]

Wow

If he said that I can’t imagine any sane person voting for him if they know he said it.

Nuclear deterrence is predicated on our enemies believing we will use our weapons, given the right conditions. I’m shocked that anyone doesn’t know that underpinning of our defense policy.

 

[openmind77]

You are saying that Matthew 25 35-40 is the complete list?

For judgment of humanity as a whole, for separation of humanity into goats and sheep, yes it is the complete list.

You and I will of course be judged on the basis of your individual actions upon death - for instance whether you hurt some one or you persecuted someone who was not bothering you in any way or denied them their rights.

But for separation of humanity this is the list and the separation has already started, it is happening in every country even as we discuss this

 

[dmelosi]

For judgment of humanity as a whole, for separation of humanity into goats and sheep, yes it is the complete list.

You and I will of course be judged on the basis of your individual actions upon death - for instance whether you hurt some one or you persecuted someone who was not bothering you in any way or denied them their rights.

But for separation of humanity this is the list and the separation has already started, it is happening in every country even as we discuss this

You have your religion as Hindu, yet you believe this one small section of the bible is the complete list for judgement?

I would be interested to know how you have come to believe that.