Democrats and globalism

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I’m very disappointed in Democrats and personally I consider most of their congressman as sold to the globalists and liars. Under the pretense of serving human rights and American interests they follow a globalism agenda and want to make USA the first globalist country against the will of the American people.

They should clearly state their political view and shouldn’t come with all sort of pretenses so people midpght think that " globalism happened". They don’t want border? say it let people vote it and don’t come with pretenses of human rights or financial interests of farmers for illegal immigrants.
Everybody should be made American citizen? Put in the political platform .
Every company or bank should come or go anywhere in the world with no restrictions? Put it there so people can vote, don’t say that you can do nothing about it.

Nazism and communism had an open doctrine, and they also were forms of globalism, but globalism is confidential to a group , so they can legaly be members to any party and advance their agenda.

Globalism doesn’t just happen.

In my opinion Nazism communism and globalism are all from the same pit.
 
Globalism is the most stupid conspiracy theory that is popular among right-wing Americans currently. It’s so meaningless, and it doesn’t bother to analyse why so-called “left-wing” politicians might support “globalist” policies. Globalism is a product of capitalism and the need for free trade in the global capitalist market - the EU is constantly accused of being “globalist”, and the main reason that exists is for the sake of free trade. There are perfectly real material reasons for the prevalence of “globalism” in developed capitalist society, and it has nothing to do with any insidious plot to destroy white nations or whatever is being propagated now.

How was Nazism global and how did it have an “open doctrine?” Nazism was extremely ethno-nationalist and upheld the Germanic people over everybody else. It was only “globalist” in the sense that it wanted to build an empire through conquest.

Communism is nothing like Nazism or liberal capitalism. It is only globalist in the sense that it seeks the dissolution of nation-states, but it bears no similarities to capitalist globalism which is based on trade and the market. Communism seeks the total abolition of the law of value - exchanging goods on a market wouldn’t even exist under communism.
 
Nazism was supposed to produce a global society and it felt mostly on Germans, they made the experiment. A global German society.
Communism had as ultimate goal a global communion of working people, the Russian imperialism was a temporary political solution until all the countries would have become communists. The experiment felt on Russians.
Now globalism. It looks like the experiment had fallen on the western civilization. Europeans and Americans lead the experiment. Simply cut the import export taxes cut the visa for entering a country give rights to everybody…
 
Ion said:
Nazism was supposed to produce a global society and it felt mostly on Germans, they made the experiment. A global German society.
Communism had as ultimate goal a global communion of working people, the Russian imperialism was a temporary political solution until all the countries would have become communists. The experiment felt on Russians.
Now globalism. It looks like the experiment had fallen on the western civilization. Europeans and Americans lead the experiment. Simply cut the import export taxes cut the visa for entering a country give rights to everybody…
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I think the difference probably is that the Nazis and Communism, as you say, shared a goal of producing a global society: either a borderless union of all workers and the abolition of capital; or a great empire based heavily on ethnic nationalism.

‘Globalism’ on the other hand isn’t really underpinned by an ideology, except the idea that free trade - while yes having problems as well as advantages - is the means to the greatest prosperity for the most people. The facts, actually, bear this out.

There are without question some free-traders who seek a world without any borders etc, but I wouldn’t say they form a majority. The Republican Party, as well as the Democratic Party (and the Conservatives here in the UK; Labour when it’s not having navel-gazing moments like the present; and the entire ethos of the European Union, of NAFTA, etc, etc), all actually support the idea of free trade, which is really what is at the heart of ‘globalism’. Free trade is what makes for the best economic outcomes for the very greatest number of people, both in the West and globally. To say nothing of bringing about 70+ years of peace.

‘Globalism’ isn’t a conspiratorial experiment. It’s how the world has ended up working, because most of the world has cottoned-on to the idea that removing barriers to trade results in more prosperity for everyone in the long run. Sure it’s not the only way to run the world economy, but I for one would rather live in this one. All but the most myopic Democrats - and Republicans - support free trade, because despite it’s drawbacks it’s the best system we’ve ever discovered for the task. A bit like democracy, really.
 
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Nazism was supposed to produce a global society and it felt mostly on Germans, they made the experiment. A global German society.
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“Aryanism” was held by a lot of Nazi leaders, but Hitler himself might not have been one of them, though he did “talk the talk”. Among other things, he declared the Japanese “Aryan” because they were his allies. He offered “Aryanism” even to some blonde, blue-eyed Jews in Poland and Ukraine if they would disavow being Jewish. And some of his closest functionaries like Field Marshal Erhard Milch were part Jewish. In Milch’s case, Hitler just “Aryanized” Milch’s ancestors by executive order.

But in general, I don’t think anyone could persuasively argue that Hitler did not hate Jews for being Jews.
 
The majority of the world’s people are governed by scoundrels far worse than even Nancy Pelosi claims Trump is. There is no reason to believe that a group of them together would be any better than any of them are individually.

Globalism is an invitation to the Huns of the world to sack, loot and ravage this country.
 
This thread, the whole thing from the opening post on down, does not belong in the World News forum. Where is the link to a news article with the same title as the thread?

It’s understandable that you might be mistaken. The World News forum has turned into a free-for-all, bare-knuckles, mixed-martial-arts, political brawl, but we’re at least supposed to post a news article and pretend that’s what we’re fighting over.

If you want to talk freely about politics without reference to a specific news article, I think the Back Fence forum would be the correct place.

Thank you.
 
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Regular_Atheist said:
Globalism is the most stupid conspiracy theory that is popular among right-wing Americans currently. It’s so meaningless, and it doesn’t bother to analyse why so-called “left-wing” politicians might support “globalist” policies. Globalism is a product of capitalism and the need for free trade in the global capitalist market - the EU is constantly accused of being “globalist”, and the main reason that exists is for the sake of free trade. There are perfectly real material reasons for the prevalence of “globalism” in developed capitalist society, and it has nothing to do with any insidious plot to destroy white nations or whatever is being propagated now.

How was Nazism global and how did it have an “open doctrine?” Nazism was extremely ethno-nationalist and upheld the Germanic people over everybody else. It was only “globalist” in the sense that it wanted to build an empire through conquest.

Communism is nothing like Nazism or liberal capitalism. It is only globalist in the sense that it seeks the dissolution of nation-states, but it bears no similarities to capitalist globalism which is based on trade and the market. Communism seeks the total abolition of the law of value - exchanging goods on a market wouldn’t even exist under communism.
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Free trade is not the issue. Flooding our countries with 3rd world immigrants to subvert our culture is.
 
JimG said:
The trouble with globalism, is that it always seems to include a push for abortion, contraception, same sex unions, and other anti-Christian values. See for example this article from Catholic Lane:

U.N. tries to fast-track LGBT acceptance and abortion access, again.
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Unfortunately there are people who think that those abominations are good to keep lower the population. And the same guys think that immigrants are good because the population is too old and low…:rolleyes:
 
Ion said:
I’m very disappointed in Democrats and personally I consider most of their congressman as sold to the globalists and liars. Under the pretense of serving human rights and American interests they follow a globalism agenda and want to make USA the first globalist country against the will of the American people.

They should clearly state their political view and shouldn’t come with all sort of pretenses so people midpght think that " globalism happened". They don’t want border? say it let people vote it and don’t come with pretenses of human rights or financial interests of farmers for illegal immigrants.
Everybody should be made American citizen? Put in the political platform .
Every company or bank should come or go anywhere in the world with no restrictions? Put it there so people can vote, don’t say that you can do nothing about it.

Nazism and communism had an open doctrine, and they also were forms of globalism, but globalism is confidential to a group , so they can legaly be members to any party and advance their agenda.

Globalism doesn’t just happen.

In my opinion Nazism communism and globalism are all from the same pit.
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I think the first step in opposing globalism would be to dismantle the World Trade Organization. Multinational corps have too much power and are doing too much harm. They above national laws and can evade national and local rules and regs, such as environmental regs, meant to protect people.
 
Ion said:
Unfortunately there are people who think that those abominations are good to keep lower the population. And the same guys think that immigrants are good because the population is too old and low…:rolleyes:
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And of course, in those nations with a below replacement level TFR, immigration will in fact be a necessity. It’s that or watch the nation turn into a ghost town.
 
JimG said:
And of course, in those nations with a below replacement level TFR, immigration will in fact be a necessity. It’s that or watch the nation turn into a ghost town.
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… abomination of desolation…
 
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